If you want help: >State the budget & CURRENCY for your build >List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)
CPUs: >G4560/G4600 for non-gaming (light tasks) or bare minimum gaming builds with a dedicated graphics card >R3 1200 - Budget builds (best with OC + fast RAM) >i3 8100 - Better budget CPU; extra cost of the currently available Z mobos lessens the value of the CPU >R5 1600 / i5 8400 - Great gaming or multithreaded use CPUs >R7 / Used Xeon / Threadripper / i7 - Heavy Multi-Tasking / VM Work / Mixed use
RAM: >Before buying RAM for Ryzen, check your Mobo's QVL or look for user reports >Current CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3000-3200 MHz is ideal
GPUs: >Crypto-Currency miners have driven GPU prices up (particularly Radeon) 1080p >GTX 1050Ti and 3GB 1060 are the only reasonably priced cards; 6GB 1060 or 4GB 580 if you want to overpay a little >GTX 1070 if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 1440p >GTX 1070 / 1080 are standard choices; currently overpriced >GTX 1080Ti if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 4K >GTX 1080Ti
General: >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING >A 240GB SSD is almost mandatory
>yeah that will be fifty gorillion dollars BITCOIN YOU FUCK AAAAAAAAAA
Josiah Bell
I'm going to do a mini itx build because I will be moving a bit in the next few years and want to save frustration. I need advice on case and cooling primarily. What is the smallest case I can use where temperature isn't a problem given the best cooling? I thought the dan a4-sfx looked amazingly perfect but I just do not know what temperature it would get with stock/aftermarket/liquid. Was going to do an i5 and 1060. Should I just get a laptop? The Helios 300 would be the same price almost.
Jack Perry
>>G4560/G4600
Benjamin Morales
upgrade from i5 2400 to ryzen 5 1600x for arma 3?
Ian Williams
Arma 3 seems to run a lot better on intel.
Jaxon Sanchez
Hey /pcbg/ Australian with ape level intellect here, please help my addled brain with my current attempts at PC building, au.pcpartpicker.com/list/dp8Gyf
Any suggestions, problems or substitutions would make me a happy camper
Also this is slightly more expensive than what i wanted, is there any cheaper alternatives to parts that i currently have?
Leo Carter
I use it abit. But it's basically just to give you an idea. Sometimes further research helps but not really. They get their information of of tons of different users performances. Yeah I've only heard of poor performance form Ryzen with Arma. I think they reckoned it was an Arma problem with single-thread/core performance or something. I don't know if 'fine-wine will fix it but it'll run atleast
Caleb Ward
goddamn arma is unoptimized
Christian Garcia
Looks good. If I had the money I'd do the same. Though I must say with the release of the gtx 1070ti the price of the gtx 1070 will drop(probably) to a better price. That cards alil overpriced as is. You should try doing alil shopping for a cheaper price. You might be surprised to find a vendor in Australia that sells it for a reasonable price with free shipping. Just search the card with Australia at the end. I live in South Africa and do the same and I tend to beable to find trusted sources that sell them at competitive prices even compared to American prices. Some online g can save you a whole $100
Lincoln Stewart
> running a 2600k at 4.3 GHz with a RX 480 > need to upgrade, but component prices are through the roof
sell rx 480 to miner for $325 bought 6850k + x99 mobo for $300 on craigslist bought 16gb ddr4-2667 on special amazon sale for $96 bought a gtx 1080 for $380 on craigslist (needed new fans, another $15)
6850k OCs to 4.3 GHz at 1.280V, decent last soldered processor from Intel, so good temps
net spend was only around $500. using 2600k in secondary computer. feels pretty good man
Brandon Bennett
Thanks for the compliment and the advice, it's not a short term goal, the hamster in a treadmill that is my brain tells me to just buy bits and pieces over time until i have 1 whole computer, because for the last 4 years i have been using an Aspire V5-571PG with many cracks in the screen, broken keyboard, smashed plastic vents for the heatsink, and a cracked as fuck chassis/case - even though its more broken than the greek economy i still can play the old shadow of mordor or skyrim on it, but its absolutely drek
Nolan Baker
Going to be upgrading from a amd fx6300, 8gb of ram, and no ssd to this. Anything wrong with it? Should I be able to easily get a 5.0GHz OC out of it? I mainly want to get into emulation that I've never been able to do with my amd cpu.
I have a r9 270x I'm going to throw in it now and wait a few months/cyber monday for gpu prices to go down. I know it's going to bottleneck the shit out of it but I can't justify paying double what a 1070 is actually worth. Emulation doesn't really need a good gpu anyway.
Also don't know why pcpartpicker isn't showing prices but it comes out to about $1100.
Liam Brown
Looks alright, Auss. Check out this guy's Ryzen 5 1600 build video series. It'll help you out a great deal: Part 1:youtu.be/69hjCd0FkCI Part 2: youtu.be/bfUzDMaRjaM
Blake Morales
No chip is guaranteed 5ghz at practical voltages youll just have to hope you get a good one
Juan Rogers
what are those numbers? :\
Oliver Scott
Avg fps
Julian Roberts
I get 75fps with my 750ti and i5 2400 but low settings
Blake Butler
iirc emulation is all about single core performance
According to UserBenchmarks, at stock the 8700k beats 8600k in single core by ~5%, however when overclocked to the peak it says there's 0% single core difference
So you could most likely have the exact same performance and save 100$
Anthony Martin
>1070 is actually worth if you're US like you seem to be, consider preordering an EVGA 1070ti, pay only 20$ over MSRP It's probably far too strong for emulating but still
also check your compatibility notes u dingdong
Lincoln Bell
cool story bro If that's the case you really need an upgrade Nah bit by bit is just wasting your time and possibly money. If anything goes wrong when you finally put it together you might have wasted a bunch of months or a year on your warranty which might come in handy. If you got a credit with your bank you could pay some of it up over 6-12months with a modest 5% interest or such. But I think it's best to just rough it for a month or so. Maybe sell something if your that strapped for cash. One thing that could help is buying cheaper mouse and keyboard you can get them for for far cheaper than thoughs. But if your looking for aesthetics, that's your choice. Might aswell buy mouse and keyboard second hand at cash converters/crusaders or whatever your countries second hand shop equivalent is.
Isaiah James
>120gb ssd why are you throwing your money down the drain? I hope your listening to this guy.
Asher Ortiz
Modified Raijintek Metis
Liam Taylor
Thoughts on the Asus vx239h? It's worth 120 in US dollars. 1 year used though. Oh and what are the things to look out for when buying used monitors? The seller has 13 in stock.
William Sullivan
what in the fuck a motherboard fan
Connor Thomas
so that's why there's standoffs next to my atx board
Matthew Jenkins
I want to play on a Windows VM (GPU passthrough), in 1080p, what would be the best :
-1060 3GB or 1060 6GB? -8350K, 8600K, or a Kaby Lake CPU?
Dominic Gutierrez
6gb for sure probably 8350k
Joseph Hernandez
I'm definitely going to be doing more than emulation with it. I'm going to have a pretty demanding need for HT so I went with 8700k for that.
What's wrong with a cheap ~$50 m.2 to throw my OS on?
Here's the compatibility notes. Shouldn't be an issue.
Jaxon Walker
reminds me of this
good old days
Gabriel Morales
yeah that mobo has 8 sata ports so you should be gucci
Leo Flores
LanParty boards!! I always thought I was the only person who bought those.
I've only ever had two mobos die on me, and they were both DFi LanParty boards. Socket 939 was a frustrating era for me. RIP dudes.
Tyler Reed
Alright Fuckers, taking bets here (Good boy points only) how many months until cryptos change and market is flooded with 2nd hand shit?
personally i think it will be a little over 2 months, new year sort of shit
Either way fuck the cryptomining chinks buying up thousands of GPU's
Samuel Young
7 months and 12 days
Jose Lewis
Once the new ethereum policies are put into place the prices on new and used are going to tank. But those policies could be tomorrow or 10 years from now.
Lincoln Robinson
What's wrong with a cheap ~$50 m.2 to throw my OS on? If you intend on using it solely for your windows and some small stupid shit fine. But don't you want space for your games
Ryder Barnes
amd slow no game
Brayden Thompson
My budget is around $750 (CAD)
I'm just looking for a usable gaming PC to get me through the next year or two before I'm in a better spot to spend bigger.
You can include a monitor in the build even if it goes out of budget but I wouldn't be able to pick it up for a few weeks.
Oliver Jenkins
Anyone? I've read reviews but personal opinions are what I'm after.
Luke Hughes
I've been living in a hole the past two years and don't know what's good anymore. Also I plan to eventually get a GPU for gaming, although I mainly need this for data processing and storage.
I'd say 24C at stock freq is pretty good (no delid)
Isaiah Gray
>OS Windows 10 shit pc
Jonathan White
>eventually You still need a GPU though, even if a cheap one.
Michael Sanders
And it is the most pervasively unoptimized garbage imagineable, Arma never ran well and never will
Charles Miller
>amd slow >no game can't even afford an AMD... poor guy Using it for games or what? If i bought anything it wouldn't be an LED honestly. and I'm not even a gamer. Check out comparisions between TN, VA and whatever else screens and LED vs LCD screens and try make a discision from that. >It's worth 120 in US dollars. You mean he's selling it for that. I won't buy it. But go ahead screens last for a good long time. If it's lacking scratches and the screen looks great before you buy it. It should be A-okay
Ryder Flores
>2017 >8gb ram Bru i'm glad you've made it out of prison but were running on 16gb recommended. Welcome to the future!
Andrew Young
I'm not even meme'ing dude get 16gb ram
Alexander Lee
Any recommendations? I was considering a GTX 1060, but I am unsure about bottlenecking or anything of the like.
Gavin Cooper
Done.
Chase Jones
Why is logicalincrements no longer in OPs post? Did something happen or are they just shit?
Cooper Sullivan
Gaming mostly and music production for more work space. I'm aiming for a dual monitor setup using my current monitor.
Original price is 8000 flip coins. He sells it for 6000. Why wouldn't you buy it? Just curious. I'll be sure to check for scratches and let him power it on to check the quality and shit.
Jeremiah Phillips
Are you retarded?
>LED vs LCD Nearly every monitor on the market is LCD, and nearly every monitor on the market is also LED. This is because they're LCD monitors with an LED backlight. The other option to backlighting with LCD screens is CCFL, which is hardly used these days.
Dylan Moore
I've been working on this myself and this seems to be the best I can come up with so far.
any suggestions on where to go from here?
Sebastian Moore
I forgot to add I already had a 8gb ram stick compatible with the build So that the only reason I threw in the 4 instead of something bigger.
Kayden Smith
good goy :P >Original price is 8000 flip coins. He sells it for 6000 I don't know what your talking about. but if it's a bargain it's a bargain >Why wouldn't you buy it? I honestly don't know, I forgot why. I've done some cursory browsing into new screens a couple days ago and came to the conclusion that led is a no-no. Something about contrasts or something. Do your own research Exactly ;^) why didn't you help our friend^^^^ out then
Benjamin Cruz
Is this loss?
Caleb Campbell
A 1060 (or 580/480, if you can get one for decent price) is adequate for 1080p. Also, Ryzen loves fast RAM, so I'd recommend getting something better than 2133MHz.
Luis Wright
Stop posting. You're a complete retard and don't know what you're talking about.
Landon Lewis
$1 = 50 pesos.
Jaxon Jackson
pcpartpicker.com/list/q26wxY I am quite illiterate building a PC and I don't know shit about components. I will use my PC for gaming but I don't want to go over $900 without a monitor. Any suggestions?
Josiah Ortiz
>tfw nothing to upgrade I don't even play AAA shit.
Maybe I could buy a new case or something with USB 3.0 slots.
Austin Fisher
Ditch the cooler, it's barely better than the one that comes with R5 1600.
Eli Price
get either ryzen 3 1200, ryzen 5 1600 or ryzen 7 1700/1700x all other ryzen processors are shit
you're paying out the ass for the mobo, check if asrock pro4 is cheaper, which is also a better board
get 8 gigs at the VERY least nvm just read second post, I wouldn't buy 4 gigs then especially not 2133
you're better off buying a second hand GPU at that pricepoint
if you take out the four gigs, switch to 1200 and pro4 you save about 80 sorrydollars
if you add that to your gpu budget you have ~225 Quite a lot decent GPUs on ebay.ca for under 200 As for new you could get a 1050ti or a PNY 970 and if you find some change in your couch a 1060 3gb
drop cooler and you're set some people claim msi gpus are inferior to assus or evga so maybe do some research into that
Jason Gonzalez
nice little set up and nice card, you have taste :^)
teh ram sucks dick tho
Julian Phillips
is there a difference between 2666 and 2800 ram as far as I've read, the 2800 gets downclocked to 2666 anyway
Camden Roberts
depends on the mb, but higher the better.
Hunter Baker
the diff between 3000 and the 36+ can be 5-10 frames
Thanks for the advice, I switched out all the parts you advised, while I might regret a new 1050ti over getting something used I just want the first built computer to be all new.
David Howard
yeah used gpus are pretty sketch right now due to miners
Luke Miller
Am I right in thinking I can simply replace my GTX 580 with a 1080? According to the official specs it seems to have the exact same dimensions and less power consumption
Easton Hill
Why do some people who don't know what they're talking about just keep talking about it?
Kayden Thomas
1070 ti or vega 56?
Adrian Martinez
Yes
Benjamin Edwards
Help me /pcbg/. I need to come up with a light budget build to play CS GO on. I only need a CPU, mobo, memory, monitor and an optional video card if my GTX 560Ti is unsuitable for this.
I want it to be as cheap as possible while having these minimum requirements: - 144 Hz monitor with low input lag/latency - as high of a framerate as possible - just enough of a video card to not bottleneck the cpu
Basically want a CS GO pc on the cheap. Already have a case, SSD, PSU etc. A Ryzen 5 looks really enticing, especially one with a Wraith cooler but I've seen mixed reports of CS GO performance
Jonathan Morris
How's this for a budget build?
Doesn't include a HDD because I have a spare SSD I'll be using.
OK so after a quick search I ran into this monitor zowie.benq.com/en/product/monitor/xl/xl2411.html and my GTX 560ti supposedly can run this via DVI just fine. Still don't know if it would bottleneck a newer CPU and shit on framerates though. As the Source engine cs go uses is pretty CPU heavy.
Eli Sanchez
Rate my build? It's for my imouto. She's kind of a weeb. So those 2D "dating Sims" and other such neko games from steam is as much as she plays gaming. Other than that, she watches Netflix, streams anime from my server/VRV account, and does school work. Anything wrong so far as anyone can see?
This build will be paired with a 24" 1080p IPS monitor I'm buying for her.
Save your money. Get a DDR4 and Ryzen based build. Even the R3-1200 with stock cooler will outperform that athlon both in single thread, multi thread, as well as using less power/pumping out less heat. No aftermarket cooler will be necessary. You can take that $20 saved and put it towards the inflated price of ddr4 currently. Also I'd spend less on a case. A $70 box for your parts on a budget build is steep. Look at something like the Corsair 100R or similar. Keep it sub $50.
Ryan Hall
Well your video isn't going to bottleneck your Cpu. It's just that honestly, that 560ti is not a performer anymore. Especially for 144hz gaming. Overall you need a full on new build. Just buy what you can for now and don't buy a monitor or parts based on your current old stuff.
Joshua Walker
Logical Increments has so many worthless builds and he's too focused on price.
It's fine
i7 8700K is way overkill. Just get an i5 8400
Draw distance kills the framerate in ARMA
8400 and either gfx card. The 3GB is fine for 1080p but you might have to manage settings in future titles. In Wolf2 Ultra textures settings will kill the framerate on 3 or 4GB cards in the outdoor scenes
Get 3000MHz RAM Ryzen has no iGPU
1060 is good for 1080p
Need 8GB of RAM at minimum 3000MHz RAM if possible Your CPU is way over powered for Your graphics card. At your budget you should check out the "minimum" build in the OP. You'll get way better performance in games
Definitely not true
Henry Brooks
>So those 2D "dating Sims" and other such neko games from steam is as much as she plays gaming well this is what i have to play such games, but its rather overkill: pcpartpicker.com/list/qTYvPs
your setup is good. if the new desktop zen apus were out, id recommend that.
Ryan Perez
Any recommendations for dust filters?
Zachary Campbell
I'll make those changes.
I went with that case because it's the least retarded looking one I could find at 3am.
Angel Nguyen
Seems pretty good as far as the use case goes. Personally, I don't like A320M boards since they're locked.
Justin Gomez
Should I get a 1600x if I already have cooler from an old build?
Colton Gray
>TR for dating sims Are you playing 10 of them at the same time?
So, uh, shit's kinda hit the fan for me here, and it won't be long before my life descends into poorfaggotry.
Basically, I'm sinking a bunch of dosh into a new PC before that happens. Something that'll last me a long time. I have basically everything laid out, there's just one thing.
8700k is a bitch to get at this time, and waiting too long risks money drying up on stupid shit. Is it worth "settling" for an 8600k?
I want something that'll still be decent, years from now. Mostly interested in gaming, emulation, and some live streaming. Also wouldn't mind dipping my toes into some video editing.
For the record, I'm not particularly interested in Ryzen. Nothing against AMD, I just prefer high clock speeds.
My apologies in advance if I said something retarded.
Easton Garcia
Yea I'd say just a tad overkill. Not bad I'd you want to have the same game running in 20+ VMs simultaneously of course. She's currently has the old build I tossed together for her out of spare parts, (FX-4100, GT210, 760G chipset am3 board) but the motherboard is starting to show problems like hanging at boot, regardless of BIOS flash, CMOS reset, or OS refresh. So I think it's time for a completely new build for her. Yea I have an Asus ROG Crosshair VI X370 board for my 1700X myself. But she's not going to be overclocking. I just want a fire and forget build for her. Good idea. The S340 is nice and all, but expensive for what it offers, especially when on a budget. Overall it's a subjective thing. But as far as Ryzen vs that Athlon you had picked put, not a contest. The R3-1200 would shit all over the athlon in every regard for only a little more. Plus, that fm2+ board you had chosen was literally titled "GRENADE". That I feel is tempting fate.
Dylan Barnes
post pics of your sis
get 2666 ram at the very least for ryzen, if you can get 3000 definitely get a HDD so she actually has space for her animes/mangos in case she wants to keep some passive cooling makes me sweat so I switched to the same price fan version of the 1030 A lot of DOA reports on your mobo from newegg, which is where yours is going to come from, I wouldn't risk it (newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157767)
>AMD Athlon X4 860K with GeForce GTX 1050 Ti (x1) will produce only 6% of bottleneck that being said, I still think it's a better idea to spend the extra ~50 on a ryzen 3 1200 build
you need almost nothing for csgo
Nathan Clark
Updated with ryzen and some cheaper parts, went down to 8gb because who the fuck needs 16gb.
Jack Ortiz
8600k is good, but that seems to also be difficult to get.
Asher Williams
>$80 extra Not bad. Thanks for the tips. I think I'll still swap back to the passive 1030 though. Those cards barely pass room temperature even under load. And those tiny 40mm fans are stupid loud. As far as the 1TB HDD. I suppose I could. Doesn't hurt and they're cheap but she has very little data locally. It's mostly on my server in her personal folder, or streaming.
And sorry no pics. Just imagine 16 yo, what's considered a traditional "cute" girl who could be made all the cuter if she actually slept more and took care of her hair. At least she's conscious of being clean.
Austin Lopez
It's up on newegg right now. 8700ks seem to go in like seconds.
Nearly snatched one up a couple of times yesterday, but I fudged it.
Wyatt James
I've been out of the good parts loop for nearly a decade, so I literally just went with whatever mobo I could find that didnt look too stupid and had atleast a few reviews.
>Open side panel >Measured something >Booted again >This frog noise started >Turned off and fished out the speaker >I believe noise stopped but screen isn't showing picture anymore >Put in speaker again >Frog noise back and still doesn't booot >Tried booting with different graphics card and without, stills same thing (except no picture if I don't have a card in, obviously) >Have to hold power button to shut down
Yea I feel you. Also it's good to buy into Ryzen now, even if you're getting the cheapest quad core they offer. AMD already confirmed that Ryzen, Ryzen+, and Ryzen 2 will all be on the am4 socket. So down the road, if you really wanted you could grab a cheap 2nd hand R7 series chip.
