If you want help: >State the budget & CURRENCY for your build >List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)
CPUs: >NO i5 7500/7600K or i7 7700/K. THEY ARE DEFUNCT AND SUPERSEDED BY COFFEE LAKE >G4560/G4600 for non-gaming (light tasks) or bare minimum gaming builds with a dedicated graphics card >R3 1200 - Budget builds (best with OC + fast RAM) >R5 1600 / i5 8400 - Great gaming or multithreaded use CPUs >R7 / Used Xeon / Threadripper / i7 - Heavy Multi-Tasking / VM Work / Mixed use
RAM: >Before buying RAM for Ryzen, check your Mobo's QVL or look for user reports >Current CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3000-3200 MHz is ideal
GPUs: >Crypto-Currency miners have driven GPU prices up (particularly Radeon) 1080p >GTX 1050Ti and 3GB 1060 are the only reasonably priced cards; 6GB 1060 or 4GB 580 if you want to overpay a little >GTX 1070 if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 1440p >GTX 1070/Ti and 1080 are standard choices; currently overpriced >GTX 1080Ti if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 4K >GTX 1080Ti
General: >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING >A 240GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory
buying the absolute cheapest motherboard is pretty much always a bad idea
Nolan Wilson
Only if I can make w10 look like 7 with aero. I hate the UI.
Carter Parker
The only reason people buy Coffee lake is because Intel/Microsoft will bully them otherwise.
No other reason for CL to exist, really.
Camden Allen
got my own hdd. Planning on upping to 16gb but why upgrade the mobo? All that extra shit i'm not gonna use.
Joshua Long
meh.... I got a h810dgs2.0 four years ago and it's been relatively good to me. >There's also quite a big difference with EFT on that site for some reason yeah it's a huge discount. > I couldn't figure it out by that tiny picture what do you mean tiny picture? if you follow the links you can scroll down and find specs.
>pic related this is the 3000mhz
Xavier Myers
yeah their are apps to change themes and stuff i'm sure. like Classicshell brings back the standard start menu
Used to hate 8 and 10(still do) but you get used to it and you can modify shit.
Joseph Hernandez
>what do you mean tiny picture? if you follow the links you can scroll down and find specs. "8GB DDR4 2400Mhz High Performance Gaming RAM - Included" can't really know what brand or model number it is user
is there a fix for the w10 pagefile? friend says it fills up his entire hdd if he has it enabled for some reason, so he's forced to disable it, which in turn fucks everything up due to memory leaks and he has to restart his pc frequently
Cooper Cook
I saw some crazy PC's in Japan.
Bentley Bell
I currently have 8gb 2400mhz RAM in my Ryzen 1600 build. I want to upgrade to 16gb 3000mhz. Should I wait until black friday or no?
Hunter Cooper
yes worst case scenario it's the same price and you spent a month with a """"""measly""""" 8 gigganiggas
>is there a fix for the w10 pagefile? I don't know much. kinda told you all I really know. I just put up with W10. you'll get used to it. Someone else can probably help though.
Jordan Long
I'm looking at this youtube.com/watch?v=cLg1YwH0QOA 2400mhz vs 3200mhz. not much difference, don't know why but I think it's got something to do with CAS and CL or maybe this guys a mook
Parker Howard
What is the best 1070 card manufacturer, specifically the 8GB one.
Aiden Gomez
the amount of intel shills and absolute retards in the last thread is astounding.
Chase Hughes
evga are the most consistent and have the best customer support by far. always try to go with evga.
Leo Edwards
How are used prices for 980Ti? Is it a viable alternative to a 1070?
Grayson Martinez
Got my Ryzen 1600 yesterday and now I'm sitting on 3.7 GHz @ 1.275 V on Cinebench, 64º C max temp. Did I won the lottery? What's a safe temp and voltage for 24/7 clocks without reducing longevity? Gonna need this CPU for 4+ years.
Nicholas Green
Dearest Sup Forums,
I'm currently holding out for an i7 8700k, which is currently priced in the UK at £430. Which is too much fucking money.
However, the i7 8700 (no k), is currently on the market for £293. For reference, the i5 8600k is £300 from the same company?
Should I go for the 8700 at that price?
Kayden Diaz
first off, congrats. hitting 3.7 with that voltage is solid. amd recommend not going over 1.35v for longevity, and i'd agree. you're completely safe. well done on your build, next up is ram. ;)
just like with the PSU, I wasn't talking about the wattage or the speeds, mainly the reliability of the manufacturer. Seems to be a well rated model so you should be good. Now it comes down to 8gb or 16gb. 8gb should be fine if you only plan to play some games for the next year or two at least. 16gb should last you until you buy a new system. There's better stability if you run 2 sticks in a dual channel motherboard, though it's not that big a deal. So however minor, 4x4gb will be slightly worse than 2x8gb
also ryzen does better with higher speeds than intel, which is where the demand comes from.
depends how long it's been used, if it was used OC'ing/mining and how lucky you get. I've seen one at 275€ that's only been in use for gaming for one year so that's a good price
Leo Bell
kek
Brody Reed
Yeah. I'm gonna go with 8gbs for now then purchase another in a few months later as I'm really pushing my budget with this purchase already.
Parker Reed
It's not so much that it's too much, I just think it's overvalued at £430, If it was around £360, then I think that's more justifiable.
Brayden Young
yeah ram is probably the best the best place to save money short term, though you could also skip the SSD, though that would require you to reinstall windows when you purchase it
Aiden Price
dude if you just want to play games and not toss $200 for a 15% performance difference. 150fps to 170fps difference go for the i5-8400. You don't need fancy shit that's just marketing.
Colton Bennett
>20 fps isn't a lot
Alexander Allen
> though that would require you to reinstall windows when you purchase it don't SSD's come with like a program so you can easily move over your OS? I'm sure they do. Unfortunately the SSD is part of the pre-build so I can't take it out >20 fps isn't a lot $200 for 20fps. honestly rather spent your money on something else. It's value will only depreciate every year
Isaiah Wright
this, 150 fps is LITERALLY UNPLAYABLE
Jace Nguyen
if you're going to OC and just play games consider 8350k if you're not going to OC and/or do some other stuff that benefits from multithreading, go for 8400/8700
Ethan Cooper
Console players pay $400 for 30 fps.
Wyatt Gonzalez
I'm going to buy an RX Vega 64 liquid cooled today for 720~€. How stupid is that?
Oliver Ross
here's an idea, buy a 1080ti for the same amount of money and 25% better performance
Nolan Cox
>consoles hitting 30 fps maybe 720p
Brandon Rogers
I'd also need to switch my monitor for an additional 200€ or so, assuming I can sell my current monitor for retail value.
Cameron Barnes
How many 2600K buyers are sitting at home wishing they had just got the 2500.
Logan Rodriguez
you could also get a 1070ti for ~250 less and still have similar performance >I'd also need to switch my monitor you don't NEED TO
Tyler Gonzalez
>both above 144 Yeah, I'm sure you have a 240hz monitor
Isaiah Ortiz
If I don't I wouldn't have similar performance.
Julian Martin
I guess that's the thing, isn't it, the difference is £120 for an 8400 and an 8700.
In real terms that means the trade off is between an 8400 with a 1080 or a 8700 with a 1070.
Charles Reed
Could you guys help me out...
Is this compatible with Ryzen 1600 / B350 Tomahawk? It looks like to get 3000mhz with my mobo, I would have to overclock?
>playing pubg >playing pubg and somehow expecting anything above 15fps with any pc
Dylan Mitchell
>Is this compatible with Ryzen 1600 / B350 Tomahawk? yes. >It looks like to get 3000mhz with my mobo, I would have to overclock? nope, you'd simply set the speed in your bios. >Also, what kind of performance difference can I expect going from 2400 to 3000? pretty significant with ryzen.
Nolan Turner
is it a bad idea to buy used AIO liquid coolers? I can get a h100i with 8 months of use for cheap
Hunter Murphy
GTX 1060 for 1440p 144Hz on Destiny 2. Am I crazy? Note: turning HDAO off has no effect on my enjoyment of the game.
Justin Torres
the 1080 will last you a good while(5 years, [i'm sure]). Unless your an autist. Same with a 8400. You don't need that expensive shit
do you need all the features of that mobo. you could spend a lot less for a similar one. I would get a 650w PSU at least for more headroom and operating efficiency. Is that RAM samsung b-die?
Camden Diaz
I'm looking for a new video card. I'm in Australia, so prices are fucky. Currently running an R9 290, but it feels like it's been degrading over time, used to play any game on my old 1080p at ultra at an easy 60FPS. Good example was The Witcher 3, could run it at 1080p 70FPS ultra (w/o hairworks). Now, I'll run it at the same settings/res and get about 60, but with constant drops below that, making the experience feel like shit. That's only one example. Might just sell the card on Gumtree for $150, which is a pretty good price for a 290 here. Would a 1050 Ti be worth getting at all? They range anywhere between $200-250, and typically have shipping prices of $20-50. There's on store within reasonable driving distance, but their prices are typically a tad higher than average ($220-280). I've heard that, for the most part, it doesn't matter which model to get, since they all perform within margin of error of one another since they're a lower power card. Is this true? I'd like high+ settings without meme shit like hairworks, Physx, AA, etc. and to run the games just fine at 1920x1080, 60FPS.
Lucas Gray
Well i really only need the WiFi ac on the mobo and I have no idea if that ram is Samsung b-die, don't know much about parts.
Carson Ortiz
What sort of usage do you intend for this computer?
Supposedly they also had Vega 56 in stock for 399 this morning, but I can't find it. Probably sold out
Camden Wilson
1060 6GB or 1070.
1050Ti won't even run The Witcher 3 at 60fps on high. Maybe medium
Christopher Myers
Games like minecraft :^), and school/life shit.
Jace Lewis
Yea that's way over kill for that then. Read the OP and check out logical increments
David Jones
I'd rather not shell out ~$600 for a video card at this point, so might just wait for a 1060 to go on sale. The last component I spent over $300 on was the 290, and that's been holding up nicely since release. I can't be fucked paying much money on components now, just want something that runs things fine at 1080p for more than 1 generation of cards, which I'd imagine the 1060 can do. Thanks for the answer, user. Was expecting to be meme'd pretty hard.
Tyler Sanders
I feel your pain, auscunt. I live in Canada and prices are just as horrible. I have a 1050 Ti and I'm waiting on a 1070 sale right now. I wouldn't recommend the 1050 Ti desu
Brandon Watson
can i build a laptop?
Ethan Murphy
I don't live in Germany mate. Doing your own watercooling is also way more difficult.
Oliver Jones
I was joking, I want to be able to play the latest games with 60+ fps on the highest quality, some porn games can be very demanding you know.
Kayden Reed
This winter I don't even use any heating and I'm stil warm. wtf, I love my vega now.
Daniel Cooper
I would go 1080ti just to make sure you can play those vr porn games in 4k.
James Lopez
Looking for an adapter for Display port to DVI-D, dual link I think because HDMI doesn't achieve 144 hz, any help? There's a lot of prices all over the place on amazon and I can't tell what I'm supposed to be buying/trusting
Pretty pls
Dominic Sanchez
Should i get the RX 580 or 1060 6gb considering prices are equal?
Anthony Wright
Fuck no
Ethan Jackson
Poozen is not to go to gaming cpu
Joshua Gonzalez
This answers nothing
Dylan Harris
Depends at what price they are. Saying they're equal doesn't amount to much. They could both equally be $400 USD, but still shit value. If they're under ~$250 for the 8/6GB variants of each card, it's not too bad, since the retail of each card should be $230 for RX580, and $250 for the GTX1060. Otherwise, if it's inflated as fuck price, it should be an obvious no.
Caleb Reed
With 1070 Ti coming out, we can expect the 1070 to drop a little in price by black friday right?
Joshua Taylor
I'm asking which card is better, without taking prices into account. I'm pretty set on either of these cards for 144hz 1080p. I'm gonna hold out to at least black friday to try to snag some deals (unlikely I know) and currently price difference between the two is pretty negligible.
Eli Price
>I'm pretty set on either of these cards for 144hz 1080p Unless you turn all the settings down, you're going to be disappointed.
Ryan Brown
At 1080p, I'm fairly certain it depends on the game anyway. I don't think either card will run most games at muh 144Hz, but some games favour Nvidia, other games favour AMD. If you're set on 1080p144Hz, I'm pretty sure your best bet would be the 1070 or higher.
Jace Gutierrez
For the games I want 144hz in, I'm fine with lower settings. So it's pretty much a draw between the two and I should just go for the cheaper? Thanks for the input on 1070 I just may go that route.
Mason Cook
Asus ROG Strix Radeon RX 580 Gaming OC or Gigabyte Aorus Radeon RX 580 8GB
can get both of them second hand at same price
Aiden Brooks
looking at coolers for dual socket xeons, probably going to go with 212 evo's, since they're relatively cheap and effective any other ideas?
Lucas Morgan
fill me in with this 144hz meme I'm out of the loop
Hudson Scott
Well, as I said, it's dependent on the game, but typically they should perform pretty similarly.
Jackson Roberts
actually wait no, the first is MSI Radeon RX 580 Gaming 8GB
Lincoln Rivera
Similar to that other user; I can't decide on 1070 or 1060 6GB. I'm going to be playing 1080/60hz. I know 1070 is obviously better but is it really worth the extra for 1080? There's a very big price difference here.
