If you want help: >State the budget & CURRENCY for your build >List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)
CPUs: >NO i5 7500/7600K or i7 7700/K. THEY ARE DEFUNCT AND SUPERSEDED BY COFFEE LAKE >G4560/G4600 for non-gaming (light tasks) or bare minimum gaming builds with a dedicated graphics card >R3 1200 - Budget builds (best with OC + fast RAM) >R5 1600 / i5 8400 - Great gaming or multithreaded use CPUs >R7 / Used Xeon / Threadripper / i7 - Heavy Multi-Tasking / VM Work / Mixed use
RAM: >Before buying RAM for Ryzen, check your Mobo's QVL or look for user reports >Current CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3000-3200 MHz is ideal
GPUs: >Crypto-Currency miners have driven GPU prices up (particularly Radeon) 1080p >GTX 1050Ti and 3GB 1060 are the only reasonably priced cards; 6GB 1060 or 4GB 580 if you want to overpay a little >GTX 1070 if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 1440p >GTX 1070/Ti and 1080 are standard choices; currently overpriced >GTX 1080Ti if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 4K >GTX 1080Ti
General: >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING >A 240GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory
I don't understand why this pic is spammed so often. have any of you ever used a low end CPU? The Windows experience isn't great. That plus they do these benchmarks on clean Windows installs, if you have bloatware running in the background you're going to have a bad time. If you're a poorfag or normie than the Pentium is fine, but I'd say 8100 or 1200 is the bare minimum for someone who's going to be doing a lot of AAA gaming.
Justin Rodriguez
>have any of you ever used a low end CPU?
Yes. I bought a G4560 earlier this year to play around with whilst waiting for Ryzen. There was quite literally no difference from the 1700X I'm using now for general Windows usage. Two Hyperthreaded Skylake cores is straight overkill for desktop use. Hell, it even did okay in Cemu (50-60fps in Mario Kart 8).
Aiden Williams
Hello friends from Sup Forums
I need a new PC and the since i never really understood how to build one i figured out id just order parts from pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/#view=w6vK8d and try to put it together myself
Are any parts of my future purchase outdated/inefficient?
Alexander Price
Sorry. Would it be ok if /pcbg/ could help me with a problem. See, I need an ultrabook that could also handle some light gaming. Are there any you guys recommend for a budget of $1500 or under?
Bad, swap to R5 1600 unless you absolutely have to have Intel in which case get the i5 8400 or i7 8700
Will we ever see custom Vega?
That's not a PC, just a CPU and a few other things. Obviously it's outside of his budget
AMD has some great products
Dylan White
How is the Logitech G710 Plus in comparison to the Corsair K70? I don't care that much for RGB, I just want backlight for using my computer in the dark, Cherry MX Brown switches and I don't want to fork over $250 for a K70.
Matthew Edwards
Romer-G is a better brown-like, imo. Check; >G810, G413 (Romer-G) >G610 (Cherry Brown) >G213 (Rubberdome) But G710+ is fine if you need those extra keys, same as 910 Spectrum (Spark is shit).
Blake Gutierrez
AMD is superior. Lower prices, higher performance. It's really that simple.
Nicholas Gutierrez
t. Lisa Su
Sebastian Cox
Name one thing Intel does better than AMD. Just one, I'll wait
Logan Moore
Not OP, but Intel processors do have better single core speeds and overclockability. I'm on the AMD hype train as much as you are, but saying otherwise would be lying.
Eli Diaz
>bought everything for my new pc >the motherboard is too big for the tower >monitor has the wrong hookup for the graphics card >have a sinking feeling that one of the parts is probably dead
kill me I am too low IQ for building a pc
Noah Jones
>that narcissistic jackass who replies to every post with his important hot takes
Lucas Rivera
Just return them then.
Anthony Edwards
How big of a difference is there in temps between a mid tower and a micro atx case? I'm looking to downsize, but don't want things to overheat. I have a 7700k with a 240mm AIO so that should be ok, but then I have an evga 1080 sc. Would temps go through the roof in a smaller case?
Gavin Watson
>>monitor has the wrong hookup for the graphics card I-is this something I'm going to have to worry about?
Dominic Russell
Not unless you bought your monitor in 1863 like that guy.
Sebastian Butler
Does anyone here have experience with hybrid gpus? I'm thinking of getting the evga kit for my 1080. It's about $100 but my card gets so loud during gaming, and I've heard hybrids sitting in the 50s under load which would be amazing
Nathaniel Allen
You can just buy a converter. His monitor is probably 10 years old or something.
Kevin Watson
whoops wrong picture, hybrid kit looks like this
Ian Martinez
For another option, you could replace the thermal paste in your GPU with liquid metal for better temperatures. It'll save you about $90. The GPU manufacturers won't void your warranty if you replace the paste as long as you don't utterly demolish your card.
Dylan Roberts
If you buy AMD, you are helping them get more market share. This is good, because it means Intel will have to compete, which means better products in the future.
Even if it performs a bit worse, you should buy a Ryzen.
Jayden Perry
I have user. The second I installed it I realized I should have just built a custom loop. Unless you have a reference card, don't bother.
Cameron Collins
unless you actually want something better, and don't give out your money based on sympathy points
Mason Moore
Ya but I don't think it's fair to compare a $100 hybrid kit to what it would cost for a custom loop, those are in completely different ballparks
Tyler Wood
>Can't tell the difference between sympathy and getting a better product from both sides in the future.
Ethan Jones
Or, maybe instead of asking people to artificially inflate AMD's market share by buying something that won't work for them as well as what the competitor offers, AMD could get their shit together and actually release competitive products, like Ryzen, and stop being inept at handling potentially competitive products, like Vega.
Joshua Ross
Not talking about VEGA, I don't blame you for not buying that.
Brayden Stewart
Just Wait™
Noah Smith
>Being this retarded
Nolan Reed
says the one pissing money away on prayers that amd will get better, I bet you hand out money on kickstarter too.
Christian Davis
>praying that AMD will git gud when they already are git gudding
Blake Martin
Will the 8700K ever be in stock?
Logan Kelly
they come into stock everyday or so, but are bought up immediately/ given to back-orders
Aiden White
I will buy when they are better, and only when I'm due for an upgrade
Hunter Stewart
Is there anything worth upgrading from a i5 4690K and R9 290?
here is something that isnt a completely autistic waste of money
Jacob Sanchez
Now that coffee lake is out it can be argued an 8700k would be a very solid upgrade
Robert Perry
oy vey
no
no
t. everthing intel does wrong is just a user error ur dumb
Jeremiah Stewart
>closed loop cancer, dumb gaymur babby
romer g is shit and so are browns
Asher Gonzalez
d-dont b-buy amd g-goy
>coffee lake >an upgrade in anything an upgrade in the JUST WAIT plan
Jayden Sanchez
>t. everthing intel does wrong is just a user error ur dumb nice non sequitur
Austin Davis
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Henry Johnson
>>coffee lake >>an upgrade in anything >an upgrade in the JUST WAIT plan near 8 core ryzen in multithreading vastly faster per thread performance
how is that not a up grade over a 3 gen old i5
Zachary Powell
>vastly faster per thread performance in shit console ports and because its at 5.5 ghz while needing a nuclear power plant to power the thing and mandatory watercooling
>in shit console ports do you know how frame-calls even work? and ryzen is closer to a console chip than coffeelake, after all the ps4 and xbone use an amd 8 core, and at worst coffeelake will only match ryzen and at best it will stomp it in games that are cpu bound.
Zachary Nguyen
>let me just use some mental gymnastics to deny reality for a moment
Colton Lee
My HD just died, as I never have more than 140GB of data... I'm going for SSD this time. Bought it at a local store, so I still have warranty and I'm allowed to replace it for another product for some extra cash. There are not many 240-250GB options just PNY CS1311($12), Kingston UV400($12), Sandisk Plus ($9) and SK Hynix SL308($15). Apparently they do not work with Samsung products, for whatever reason.
I've done some research, seems like UV400 is more reliable (100 rated TBW) than Hynix (75TBW, which is faster) and PNY/Sandisk are DRAMless. Which one is the "not so shit"?
Isaac James
what are my chances of success if i order a 1070ti and swap it with my current 1070 of the same model and brand, and return it to get a 1070 ti for free?
Asher Johnson
better than it should be
Alexander Cooper
Can someone just tell me honestly whether Intel or AMD is better? Enough of the memes and shitposting, I just want to know what to buy.
John Russell
First time building. Do I just plug the 6+2 pin from my PSU to my GPU?
Isaac Lewis
My 1080 has a 6 pin and an 8 pin
Oliver Rogers
Damn what a good idea Thanks for the tip bud
Mason Howard
no you plug your gpu directly into the wall
Asher Rodriguez
my only issue is the side of the gpu has "evga gtx 1070" written on it. do you think the amazon slaveworkers will check?
Aiden Sanders
they likely will check for a big ticket item like that, but its up to whether or not the slaveworker knows the 1070 vs 1070 Ti differentiation.
Logan Brooks
is the i3-8100 worth the extra shekels or is the intern still cumming on the processors
Robert Myers
Does this look normal? Looks a bit bent to me
Grayson Brooks
i just realized the box shows the graphics card and the "evga 1070 ti" logo written on the side which will make it easy for them to see they've been scammed.
luckily the acx 3.0 cooler can be easily removed and the pcb of the Ti variant shouldn't be that much different to the base 1070 right? i can just swap the cooler and they'll never know. only issue is it will be hard to convince someone that it's a 1070 ti if i want to resell it later on.
Jace Reed
what is supposed to be in focus in this picture.
Isaiah Hall
I regret building a PC, it's loud stupid and useless.
Lucas Powell
there's a focus button on your phone, racim.
Robert Robinson
>1200mhz ram >1050ti >paired with a 7700k
Jayden Sullivan
boost clock will put you in 1080 performance zones
Camden Diaz
>intel has the intern's cum as thermal paste >amd has cheap but shit processors pick your poison
Ayden Cooper
Go for Intel if you want gaming or general use, and go for AMD if you want a workstation or do other CPU-intensive tasks.
Benjamin Stewart
i have a 1080 what games should I actually play?
Landon Murphy
Intel always wins baby But you should buy AMD so intel has a reason to make better products
Hudson Ramirez
Only VR will test your power level with modern high end graphics cards. So you should buy a vive and crank up dat supersampling.
Carson Ortiz
Should I buy the 32/64-bit version of Windows 10 Home, or just the 64-bit version?
William Kelly
32/64, more applications able to run
Gabriel Campbell
I have around 500-600$ to buy my pc a brand new cpu any recommendations Preferably Intel Thanks ahead
Camden Jenkins
hmmm dont have money for a vive right now fuck.
Eli Gray
my motherboard only came with 4 standoffs, is this normal?
but I did get these 4 little weird tiny standoffs with the mobo and idk what theyre for
Jackson Rodriguez
>1700x master race because i'm a game dev and multithreading is kind of the best thing ever >bought a r9 290x off ebay for 150$ to crossfire the one i bought two years ago instead of spending insane cash on vega >600W but overall still cheaper with PSU and power than paying for a fucking modern GPU >3200MHz DDR4 without spending too much
first pc build for me since 2011, shit today is a bit misleading but still comfy
Logan Jones
your mom said that to me last night
Charles Wilson
>1700x -x series chips are a meme. Either buy a 1600 or a 1700, or give up your last shread of dignity and buy Intel processors.
Noah Campbell
Okay I have spent day trying to OC my 8700k If I set multiplier to 47x-50x in BIOS it actually runs at 47x no matter what I set Anything above 50x in BIOS sets the cores to 46x for some strange reason Trying to OC in XTU gives more strange results What the hell is happening
James Torres
100$ difference for better silicon lottery is essentially a non-factor considering system longevity (resulting in around 20$/year difference, holy shit not having lunch for one day a year buys me a better mean processor wow)
Anthony Smith
its an overpriced, inefficient build that is outperformed by ryzen. this is better: pcpartpicker.com/list/GCjLzM
Joshua Lee
ryzen is superior to anything intel right now. better overall and less expensive.
Owen Fisher
1600 > 8400 >6 more threads >less expensive mobos >significantly better stock cooler >unlocked >can actually buy it right now
1700 > 8700K >2 more cores >4 more threads >less expensive mobos >stock cooler >doesn't start housefires >$100 less >can actually buy it right now
