I only browse /fit/ regularly and /biz/ just seems to be full of cryptocurrency investors so this seems like an okay place to ask.
I'm 20 currently finishing an undergraduate degree in business and economics.
I'm an ESTJ type so leadership has come naturally to me since I was a kid, always gets handed to me in group assignments and I enjoy it.
My plan has either been to get in investment banking, business management or project management after I get a University degree in business but I've been hearing that computer scientist are in a need for investment firms and that project managers with computer science degrees are more likely to get hired in tech companies than guys with business degrees.
I already do very well in math and wouldn't mind working as a coder for some time right after my Uni degree either. I have the most basic understanding in JS and markup languages too which I taught myself to make a website for some entrepreneur class since no one knew how to do it in my group.
Would I be right to get a computer science degree instead of more business?
Computer science degree more beneficial today?
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Personality types have been proven completely false with no science behind it. Humans are more complex than that. Some days we hate life and people and some days we dont. Some days we want to party and sometimes we want to chill at home
>I'm an ESTJ type so leadership has come naturally to me
Myers-Briggs personality types are a fucking meme, ya doofus.
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>Would I be right to get a computer science degree instead of more business?
Follow your heart, not what you think might land you a job. Degrees doesn't mean a lot besides landing your very first job.
you should buy a gun and shoot yourself till you finally die worthless trash
>meme
Alright, just some pseudo science some management teacher I had put an emphasis on.
>Follow your heart
I don't have a passion so I just want a safe job that pays well.
No u.
stay away from coding meme
you can learn python but you need to be pretty advanced to be anything useful or it to have an impact.
But what you can do is to familiarize with concepts and processes so you can do good in technical
environment. You can probably be able to figure something and get bunch of other engineers and build a product or solution that sells.
>I don't have a passion so I just want a safe job that pays well.
Continue studying business but get into data science / business intelligence (both are just buzzwords for applied statistics, with data science being the newest fad and "business intelligence" is what it used to be called).
It is true that personality types are categorically strict but there is some truth behind them.
Stay in business, you can learn 90% of what's necessary to code in a company by your own (that is if you're not aiming at high engineering levels).
A rock solid portfolio will get you places. Although, as I understand, biz is overcrowded as fuck, don't really know how things work on that side.
And more importantly FOUR SCOOPS CMOOON
>It is true that personality types are categorically strict but there is some truth behind them.
The fact that I get different results every single time I take them, based on what mood I am that day, pretty much disproves that there is any "truth" too them.
It's also invented by a Children's book author with no formal psychology education and her daughter, after the former stumbled over some writings by Jung.
It's a fun passtime, but nothing more. I've walked out of an recruiter interview once, because they used that test.
I've taken the test like 3 times and always get the same personality type, for about 4 years.
Seriously. Code is just a small part. Often find myself doing a lot a linux comands, writing queries, queues, application servers, full stack development, json xml js and css sometimes, network alalysis, reverse engineering shit, caching, jira and git. I am likely doing one of those things instead of actually physically writing code in the language i was hired for
Oh and fucking maven
I've think I've gotten all of the introvert types at some point. I've probably taken it 10-15 times over the course of 15 years.
Damn you people are dense. Getting into CS for software development is like getting into engineering for wooden bird houses. If your university only offers CS as a CSC major, then your university sucks dick.
Those would be some fucking great wooden houses, though.
It's like my structural engineering-fag uncle building a dog house. The property was ruined during a land-slide that basically completely destroyed around 15 houses. The house they lived in was completely destroyed, but the dog house was solid and had survived.
Comp Sci is for turbo autists. Unless you think you'd enjoy them as coworkers I'd stay away.
>biz is overcrowded as fuck
Yeah this is why I'm a bit paranoid. 2 older friends I have got job offers right out of school with their comp sci degrees too. Ones working for an IT company which provides ERP systems and cloud service, the other one is working for CCP. They're both getting payed well.
Meanwhile I would have to hustle and make a very good portfolio which I wouldn't have a problem with but comp sci seems so much safer to me.
>ESTJ natural leading
you're just a faggot that thells other faggots what to do. and yes, you fucked up, should have made CS in the first place
Bigdata. Embrace it.
Study the R language.
>Myers-Briggs personality types are a fucking meme, ya doofus.
Well not exactly, they're just misused. The problem is that brainlets don't understand that your personality can change, same as with IQ. Hence why measuring both and just pretending that they are static throughout somebody's life is complete bullshit.
>Current IT student, after a first semester in business school.
If you want job security you should get into applied statistics.
Coding as an expendable job skill requires disposition to spend a ridiculous amount of hours getting better on your own, to do it you should draw satisfaction from creating a product on your own.
Most expandable skills from CS boil down to being able to read an applied math manual when required, in general a solid understanding of some specific applications of statisticsis are the main job perk
Any Electronics Engineer with an additional understanding of computer systems has probably the best shot of picking the most solid job offers in the technical field.
Each single one of these profession requires that you listen a lot and then sit down and tinker with your specific task.
If you want to be stupendous and shine amongst your peers, stick with management and look for any promising specialisation path involving.. statistics.
Since you're not in technical school now, statistics means the whole calculus>linear algebra>... up to a level at which you can understand instructions.
>posting welsh monkey
just finish the business degree. If you want to code it's faster and more efficient to just teach yourself how to code than to bother with meme CS degree
t. CS graduate student
Everything gets called a meme degree here, what does it even imply?
>I don't have a passion so I just want a safe job that pays well.
Then you probably should have gone to med school or something because not only do you have to compete with cheap second/third world labor, tools used for what you're talking are becoming easier and easier to use to the need for trained CS is going to go away over time.
But seriously, stay the hell away from any kind of software and engineering work. I've had more than enough experience with your type to know that you're always more of a liability than an asset with your "leadership" and need to pretend you know better than actual actual domain experts.
>learning error handling of rams
>the closest nand factory is more than 1000km from the uni, also may close at any time
Nothing personel, just waste of time. Of course it's needed, because some HR fag have paper fetish due to laziness.
>IQ can change
Not it can't.
Myers-Briggs is a propietary dumbshit test, by the way, Big Five is a billion times better.
That's for an another thing.
Business is overcrowded and I'm always seeing new statistics about how CS is in demand. I don't see why I should stay away from software work, like I said I don't have a problem with working as something else than a pm.
Myers-Brigg is utter bullshit. See I can take one now and take one in three days and get wildly different results.
This
>I'm an ESTJ
stopped reading there