Interview with the most influential Kremlin foreign policy advisor Sergey Karaganov.
He says openly that Russia realizes its economical and technological weakness in comparison with Europe. He says: "Yes, you live better than us. But it doesn't have to last forever", because Russia has a huge tool in hand that can use against Europe anytime: second biggest army in the world.
He says: "you can have good and comfy lives as long as you share your wealth with Russia. And never forget that we can end it anytime and you can't do anything about it."
They can come to Greece and we will build Atlantis with their bones.
Jaxson Adams
Wew lad.
WE USSR NAO.
Jayden Peterson
kek
Carter Reed
Russia takes what Russia wants
Our clay is your clay, Ivan
Jonathan Russell
So Russians are basically mafia thug bully bastards who can't make anything good, only ruin everything for everybody else. So what else is new?
Oliver Bailey
Funny Russian kike this Kikekaganov.
Well, maybe it is time to sacrify half of humanity to remove this parasite that we call "Russia" after all? Sometimes you need to get rid of part of your body to save it from cancer.
>Well, maybe it is time to sacrify half of humanity to remove this parasite that we call "Russia" after all?
Let us not forget to direct few nukes in direction of Israhell too. It is Russia ver 2.0. jewSA aka Murrica will be nuked by default, so there is no need to care about it.
Nathaniel Brown
Lmao, can't believe people are still falling for the sharing a continent with Russia and the Middle East meme in 2016. Baffles the mind really.
Anthony Wright
if Trump gets elected Europe better prepare to welcome its new Russian overlords
I for one can't wait for that day. Дo cвидaния Eвpoпa
Evan Jenkins
Russia > Europe Europe is weak and needs to be cleansed
Easton Roberts
>Europe is weak and needs to be cleansed
Unfortunately, that's true.
Christian Butler
>gibe money or we nuke you Russia is brazil with nukes and a nutcase in command.
Chase Flores
Sorry, Russia, but Europe still has us.
Better back the fuck off, slav monkeys.
Jonathan Perry
They're using North Korean tactics. Kind of sad to see how desperate they are at the moment
Camden Cook
Let's be friends. Russia loves russophiles.
Jose Myers
Wtf I'm so scared I like russia now
Liam Price
They are such a clunky and outdated world power. When you make the USA's foreign policy look subtle and diplomatic, you know your shit's fucked up.
Charles Hall
Lmao. Looks like Russia is on a charm offensive. Like an elephant in a porcelain shop.
Henry Perez
The future is bright for Russia tbqf
The sanctions are going to fall off when the EU dissolves haha
Alexander Wood
The propaganda writes itself. It seems Russia genuinely wants to be the entire West's go to boogeyman.
Dominic Thompson
Why didn't he said that we're just trying to open Hell gates? >le hatred >le agression >le blahblah No. Just total annihilation without any reasons.
Aiden Hall
Europe put sanctions on Russia under pressure of the USA. Otherwise they would never do it, because it directly hurts their economical interests.
Besides stop being so anti-European. Not every country in Europe hates you. In fact there is at least one European country that blindly loves you.
>you can have good and comfy lives Thats bullshit, i lived in russia it is pretty comfy. Just like germany you got your ups and downs like in any white majority country.
Jacob Roberts
>Thats bullshit, i lived in russia it is pretty comfy.
Russian expats are such a niusance. They shill for their country while residing in other countries. Polish gastarbeiters who were spitted out by Polish economy and exported to the West don't try to shill for Poland at least.
Hunter Fisher
>Some Ukrainian trying to made a sabotage at Crimea >Bo-hoo, Russia fuck you! >Some Russian politics said that "you can have good and comfy lives only if you share it with us but if you're not - you're dead, pal" >Wtf, I love Russia now! Are you insane, people? I'm deadly serious now.
Jayden Moore
>Polish gastarbeiters who were spitted out by Polish economy and exported to the West don't try to shill for Poland at least. Oh yeah? What about that autist in Sweden?
John Wilson
>What about that autist in Sweden?
He was born in Sweden, kek. "Muh heritage" and stuff.
Logan Jenkins
>w-we love you so much usa, we realy do!
Gabriel Wood
This.
Europe is a Muslim-Nigger shithole, it must go to the trash.
Landon Peterson
France is not whole Europe though. xD
Isaac Bennett
Sup Forumsellectuals are fundamentalist contrarians. If Russia is hated, it's a sufficient reason to love it.
Robert Turner
So basically some third world shithole with soldiers as cannonfodder is treating a high developed clusterfuck of Nations with potentially 100 million men at arms?
OK then.
Michael Johnson
>most influential Kremlin foreign policy advisor >seen his name for the first time on a chinese imageboard for girls. Nice try, Waclaw.
>West don't try to shill for Poland Poles dont shill for poland because poland is irrelevant.. They mostly shill for USA. Idk why, maby jewish grandparents ?
Andrew Baker
Yeah, seems like that.
Aaron Stewart
>100 million men at arms? Radioactive men.
Anthony Peterson
What did you said, Piotr ?
Logan Parker
Karaganov has been a member of the Trilateral Commission since 1998
The Trilateral Commission is a non-governmental, non-partisan discussion group founded by David Rockefeller[1] in July 1973
Zbigniew Brzezinski, National Security Advisor to President Jimmy Carter, from 1977 to 1981, professor at Columbia University and a Rockefeller advisor who was a specialist on international affairs, left his post to organize the group
Karaganov is known as the progenitor of the Karaganov Doctrine, which states that Moscow should pose as the defender of human rights of ethnic Russians living in the 'near abroad' for the purpose of gaining political influence in these regions.
You may laugh but this new Russian strategy was my idea. I wrote like 2 years ago, when oil price began to fall down that Russia should force countries around the globe to pay for right to live. Russia would program its nuclear rockets to be launched in randomly chosen countries if the world refused to pay Russia 200 or 300 bln dollar / year. "You pay or we kill you". It could help Russia to survive without stable income from selling oil and gas.
Adrian Harris
Feels good to be not included
Joseph Nelson
>Mughal Empire isn't included
Aiden Hernandez
>Brzezinski His daughter is a milf. She was an anchorwoman for my local TV station when I was a kid.
Zachary Gomez
t. mamluk of the brussels caliphate
Caleb Peterson
*Teleports behind you* *Speaks with a smirk on the face* -We are Rosija, share your wealth with us or we will come for you and you can't do anything about it! >get's nuked to the ground by US, UK, Germany, France and Israel -It was just a prank bro!!!
Zachary Gomez
>We are fucking stupid and can't even manage our country properly we don't care because we can nuke you Why my country is so pathetic int?
Josiah Moore
lol when the fuck has he ever threatened to invade people like this
I really hope russia does start a war so that we can finally wipe your fucking country off the map, this dipshit thinks he'd just be fighting pussy Europeans if he invaded but we'd be on the scene before them ready to remove Moscow from the map
That's considering we don't go nuclear, would actually be less fun that way, we'd get to kill countless more Russians in a coventional ground war
And when I say ground war I mean you on the ground, because even our fucking navy has more planes than your Air Force lmao
Christopher Fisher
Germany doesn't have nukes lol
However I believe WE have nukes in Germany
Turkey as well
Basically all around Moscow
Landon Young
Both Russia and the West defiantly proclaim there will be no return to “business as usual" between them, but with the complexities of their geopolitical engagements, it's clear a degree of cooperation is necessary. Are they ready to transition to the new mantra of "nothing personal, just business"? To discuss that, Oksana is joined by Sergey Karaganov, one of the most renowned Russian political scientists and until recently, advisor to President Vladimir Putin.
Lies! Europe put sanctions on Russia under pressure from Poland.
William Miller
True, my meming failed.
Jackson Jackson
I think that there is no single issue in which Europe listened to Poland yet. xD
We began to warn Western Europe 15 years ago that making a main supplier of energy carriers out of Russia can end with war in Europe, because Russia will gain huge financial assets that it will be able to use to modernize/rebuild its military and use as a tool to bribe/influence domestic policies all European countries. Back then we were called "paranoid russophobes" and "prisoners of history". Today nobody would use such insults against us anymore , i guess, but i also suspect that today is already too late.
Leo Lee
>we'd get to kill countless more Russians At first try to raise yourself from the seat
The only thing this retard forgets is that as soon as we stop sharing our wealth with them their soldiers, but at least their citizens will literally go starving. They are barely taking Ukraine lmao. And what the fuck are they thinking the rest of the world is gonna do. No one wants Russia to take the EU's place. Not that they are capable of being anything than a major nuisance collapsing under its own retardation every 20 years.
Henry Cox
>Russians are great fighters >Afghan war >War of attrition
Lmao
Daniel Gutierrez
This guy also said that pact Ribbentrop-Molotov (alliance between nazism and communism to destroy Poland) was a good thing for Europe.
Destruction of europe when? We should rape and pillage with our mongol brothers up north. Serbians and finns are also invited. A bust german girl for every fighting man.
Noah Mitchell
>gallipoli
Nolan Lee
You are not mongol, you are khazar xD
Isaac Young
Don't see your point?
We never made the claim
Eli Ross
ok. you are right. but you always claim you have best lamb, which is an outright lie. dagestan lamb much better
Daniel Carter
NZ lamb is good but no better than anything I had in Europe
Josiah Adams
Now tell me, what kind of tax Europe gives Russia ? How Russia take it? And what reason to destroy you?
I had kiwi lamb for dinner the other day and the chops were awfully small. Why are New Zealand farmers so jewish?
Gabriel Brooks
How much did you pay and for what weight?
I guarentee we pay more than you for our own goods
Jaxson Morris
>How much did you pay and for what weight? I dunno lol I live at home like the lazy nigger I am
Nathan Cook
He's got a point.
If there was a "WW style" war against Russia, they have a great advantage over the west because our males have become so pussified. Can you seriously imagine a bunch of hipsters and asperger fat fucks getting conscripted to go to Poland to help defend against Russia? They'd literally shit themselves and cry. It'd be a liability to even be in such an army. They'd be the majority.
Andrew Watson
Did the Russians forget about their adventure in to Georgia already?
I think that's only university leavers really. He doesn't have a point because Russia would struggle to take anything. It's that one friend who reckons he could batter that group of cheeky lads by the door but you know he's full of shit.
Adam White
It's a general problem that politicans can't manage contries properly.
Just look what they have done to my contry.
The problem in russia seems to be that you always fall back to tsardom again, even when you try to be democratic.
I dunno what's worst, Russia or China, which one is most in denial of the two.
Asher Harris
Boots on the ground only matters for seizing territory though.
If they actually threatened western nations, nukes would fly and it would all be over anyway.
Juan Miller
It's the gas. They knew it, and yet they fell for it. Stupid fucking germans.
Soo tollerant.
Tyler Ross
True, I am not going to debate things that are above my level, such as their logistics "in the taking" of lands, or how new technologies might impact things - I just don't know enough.
And MAYBE I am underestimating "the west".
I just see, the average Russian would be more willing to fight, and they'd likely be an unified front. Now, take France for example, they'd have to fight two wars (against their terrorists) while also factoring in that, well, a lot of our people here in the west just seem... too liberal to survive conscription.
I am speculating, but it's not that easy. If nukes did go off, I don't think it's that likely that nations would just call it a day. It'd actually just be the start of another war since most nations would break apart into anarchy and or civil war, which would in turn provoke more nations. Those nations that do not break apart might react in strange manners, such as going outright berserk and fighting on, or becoming hardcore isolationist if they can feed themselves, well... It certainly isn't the end of the world, I imagine it's more like a reset button
Joshua Adams
Mate if nukes went on even on a relatively small scale, we'd have mass famine and a total breakdown of the modern world. The world as it is now as an incredibly interdependent logistical network.
People would be worrying about their next meal and getting clean water, not keeping their community together. That's not even taking into account the effects of fallout and breakdown of society.
Thomas Martinez
>tfw i studied international relations in college 5 years ago, and my professors talked non-stop about a conflict with china but never once mentioned russia i am ready for war
Michael Adams
How was it?
I would like to take it as part of my studies
Alexander Martin
>And MAYBE I am underestimating "the west". The West includes the US so I wouldn't really worry about any Russian invasion. They spend so much more than Russia on defence and the UK themselves aren't really far off. It'd be a struggle no matter how much Russian people are willing to fight.
Liberal or not, there are lots of people who would fight against a country seen as doing bad. If you ask people now, should we invade Syria, people are a mix because it's complicated. If you ask should we bomb ISIS the answer is suddenly a lot more favourable towards conflict. If a war were to break out, so long as public opinion of Russia is bad people would fight. Not hard to see Russia as bad either.
It'd depend where you are. There would be rationing for sure, but famine is harder to imagine. We're not really dependent on Spanish fruits and vegetables, we could grow our own and we do, we just export them.
Isn't NZ the biggest importer of Welsh lamb or something? And we import all your lamb. It's weird, but most countries would survive after the initial shock I imagine.
Benjamin Wood
Read up a little on the extent to which nukes would cripple agriculture
Noah Bennett
I have better things to do sorry. Unless they purposely bombed the countryside instead of real targets there would always be land to grow on in the UK. That's is they ever managed to get a nuke to land here which I would doubt too.
Joseph Rogers
it was fun. i feel like most of my classmates browsed Sup Forums or whatever. i lucked out and now have a pretty comfy job in nyc, but some of my classmates are still jobless/student researchers. just take easy courses and get a good GPA, it's all employers/grad schools care about in the u.s. at least.
Christian Baker
Its not just direct destruction. There are a large number of very nasty effects that follow it and widespread contamination of all kinds. Wind, water and people spread radioactive material, chemicals, ash, disease etc
Sounds pretty noice. I'll be studying cyber security but I want to have a good international+language basis too so I can push a career in that direction, public or private sector.
Nicholas Flores
It's like Russia wants to fight all of Europe at the same time. Napoleon and Hitler failed individually, but combine them and add in countless other European nations and Russia isn't going to get its way
Colton Parker
Should add Erdogan here and put Merkel's face lel.
Isaiah Roberts
I think the reality is more like they have to maintain the external threat to keep the general population more orderly, despite the various declines of the country and quality of life.
Take North Korea as an extreme example. They bark and threatened constantly and people think its a joke, when really its not directed outward at all.
Christian Jones
>"you can have good and comfy lives as long as you share your wealth with Russia. And never forget that we can end it anytime and you can't do anything about it."
What are nukes, they will lose all their cities as well. Russians bark but they don't bite.
Parker Smith
Russia couldn't even beat the Taliban. How the hell do they expect to beat NATO?
Tyler Anderson
The US couldn't even beat the Taliban. How the hell do they expect to beat Pakistan?