Why do Americans say "The Ukraine" instead of just Ukraine?
Why do Americans say "The Ukraine" instead of just Ukraine?
Alexander Edwards
Jaxon Martin
they think it's respectful or some shit
Liam James
What? I've never heard or seen anyone say The Ukraine
Josiah Johnson
>ukraine
no such thing
Carson Murphy
Another Ukraine is in your heart.
Isaac Stewart
I have the Ukrainian friend that incessantly bickers over this. It was the same for Sudan too (at least during media representations of the civil war) and I don't know why it's employed.
Easton Parker
krain=land/territory
ukrain=borderlands
the ukraine= the borderlands
That's why it triggers them, it's like the Irish with the >british isles
Oliver Carter
Why do Americans say normalcy?
Normality sounds normal, and it is.
Daniel Martinez
who cares its the same as calling UK "The UK" or USA "The USA"
Xavier Rivera
Carter Anderson
I know the origin. Why perpetuate it?
>it's like the Irish with the >british isles
Ireland was never part of the British isles.
Carter Russell
en.wikipedia.org
> For this reason, the name British Isles is avoided in Hiberno-English as such usage could be construed to imply continued territorial claims or political overlordship of the Republic of Ireland by the United Kingdom.
I even remember some irish user got buttblasted some time ago in a similar situation
>the United Kingdom
>the United States of America
>Ukraine
Lucas Jenkins
Ah yes, wikipedia.
Liam Barnes
do you know what ukraine means you retarded chimp?
Brody Wilson
>The United States
>Ukraine
It seems strange to an American speaker to say it without the in front of it. And yes, Uruguay throws us off too.
Ethan Myers
Also "the Sudan"
John Powell
Triggered
Ryan Price
>extra articles
REEEEE
Jacob Stewart
Close but not exactly, "krain" actually comes from кpaй meaning edge, combined with the preposition y meaning "on" in this case. It means "on the edge" since it's on the western edge of the kingdom of kievan-rus
Landon Sullivan
Tbh I kind of like that it's 'The Ukraine'. Gives it more uniqueness imo.
Tbh I've never had an issue with Uruguay.
Agreed
Owen Moore
I'm new to int, what's that little bar under your flag? It's been bugging me
Cooper Fisher
>Why perpetuate it?
Beats me. Normalcy is actually more widely used than normality. I wish it wasn't.
Might have to do with general disdain for "snobbery."
Cameron Lopez
it's called the ukraine in english, americans speak a dialect of english, so I think that's why
really makes me think tho
Aiden Morales
>The Ukraine
No such thing.
Noah Green
Why don't Americans celebrate Easter?
Christopher Campbell
Except it isn't.
Both UK and USA is shortened from "the united kingdom" and "the united states of America"
Aiden Hill
>Looking for logic in anything done by Americans
Hudson Morgan
I read somewhere that we do that because the word "ukraine" literally translates to "border" in some language. It makes more sense to say "the border" than just "border"
Charles Anderson
>Ukraine
No such thing
Camden Butler
>i'm a Dutchman living in Holland nd my language is Dutch and my mother is a Dutchwoman
The English language is just the sound that retards make 2bh
Mason Foster
"ukraine" refers to the independent state where as "the ukraine" refers to the soviet territory. its an old fashioned way of saying things and its a good way to offend a sensitive ukrainian.
Jackson Sullivan
Why do Anglos say Yukrayn instead of ukraine?
Liam Rivera
It's the same in German
Ethan Gomez
> For this reason, the name British Isles is avoided in Hiberno-English as such usage could be construed to imply continued territorial claims or political overlordship of the Republic of Ireland by the United Kingdom.
it's called that way because Britain owns Ireland
Adam Ward
It's "Ukraine". Calling it "The Ukraine" is disrespectful, like it's not its own country, but borderlands of Russia.
Justin Jenkins
>ukraine
no such country
Kevin King
It's just a flow thing. I don't know why it happens certain countries, like (the) Ukraine. Feels natural to add it there?
Let's be real, Americans don't even know where Ukraine is on a map, let alone that it borders Russia. I am not meme'ing on the border part.