If you were rich Sup Forums, would you stop pirating?

If you were rich Sup Forums, would you stop pirating?

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no, i'd use my money to fund more research into newer, better piracy networks and cracking new DRM schemes

In case of DRM-heavy stuff it's literally a better experience to pirate it.

It depends if the stuff is easily accessible or not
Sometimes you just can't find what you're looking for by legal means. But yeah I would probably buy the real shit.
I would still stay with linux though.

>be rich
>like rare music
>have to look up rare vinyl on discogs and pay someone else to go out and buy it
>pay person to rip it on a good turntable
>pay person to convert it to 128 kbps mp3
>pay person to properly tag all files
>who process takes weeks

or just pirate

I would still pirate as much as possible unless I specifically supported the developer and their model

if i would live in the 1st world i'd never pirate anything: it's risky, immoral, detrimental to creators, and inexcusable if you earn 10x more than a 3rd worlder.

tastes like grape koolaid

No, I'd keep pirating games but put money into cracking online official multiplayer, because 60 dollars for a video game with microtransactions is absurd.

you have special buds
I think it's pretty good

I would still pirate music and movies because it's more convenient. But I would buy physical copies of stuff I really liked, same as I do now. I wouldn't pirate video games though, steam is very convenient.

Hell no

>immoral
oh dear, whatever shall i do

generally this BUT

>pay person to convert it to 128 kbps mp3

say fucking whaaaa

I don't pirate because I'm poor.... There's just no other solutions that's as good as pirating atm

I would pirate to fight (((them))), but almost everything they produce is garbage.

>128kbps
[REPLIES GUARANTEE]

Is there even a legitimate music store that offers what piracy does? Specifically DRM free FLACs and 320 MP3s and any album that I search for

I pirate because not because I don't have money or isn't willing to buy them. Truth is, I can't buy it even if i wanted, it's because my country's national bank won't let me use USD payment method. Also, bitcoins are banned (and obviously need USD to purchase bitcoin or a fucking 10-20k hardware, just to go to jail if found)

I found some obscure sites and really wanted to pay for stuff, and I got my ass handed back to me by HORRIBLE download service, ended up paying and downloading it by pirating FLAC. Another thing I wanted was found on some not worthy of mentioning "flac store" that doesn't accept paypal, so I had to pirate that as well, this time without paying the long-defunct band that produced the amazing thing.

I'd buy new stuff but still probably pirate old movies since it's eeasier.

For programs I would. For digital media, not really, unless is something im really fond of, id buy a physical copy. There are other ways to show support, say artists, for example going to their shows or buying their merch.

If anime can thrive off figurines and other sales to make up from airing at 3 in the morning, I don't see how vidya and movies can't change their model from movie sales or game sales to other forms of income.

it's not mostly shit merchandise they profit from though, it's bluray sales

airing in the dead of fucking night is just how people know they exist and are pretty ok, people then buy the discs to actually watch them

what country is this even?

Sadly, Nepal

No, I'm still going to get things for free if I can.

>living in a communist hellhole

just roll down the mountain to india then you can poo in loo

But Plus Point, software used in whole country are pirated so no copyright law or anything.

I'd have a massive physical PS1 and GameCube collection, but I would still just buy a network adapter for my PS2 and use it to play PS1/PS2 games off HDD because it's more convenient.

With anime I have no choice and with music I'd just be wasting money since I already buy music from independent artists

There ain't no communist capable of doing anything now. Just some old dudes with loud voices and asthma

they are capable of making you not be able to use USD

It was done my Capitalist to stop money laundering.

no

when was the last time an oppressive government gives any other reason besides stopping money laundering and corruption for why they are trying to control the currency market?

and national bank provided a statement five or six year earlier about preventing national currency to go foreign (Fucking 1 USD = 104 NRs.).

Nothing said by opposition caz like I said earlier, they ain't capable of doing anything

I would buy anything that I couldn't pirate with a superficial search. Basically anything slightly rare.
Then rip it, and make it easily available everywhere.

>and national bank provided a statement five or six year earlier about preventing national currency to go foreign

such a thing isn't even possible

but then again, communists are known to not be able to into economics

>communists
>having money

The state of neo/g/

well it is possible here caz they regulate every rupee possible going foreign.

Hey that's what I get for being born in shit-tier third world country.

>If you were rich Sup Forums, would you stop pirating?
Yes. If you like something you should support it. Whether that's buying it or telling others about it.
But these are true too.
>In case of DRM-heavy stuff it's literally a better experience to pirate it.
>It depends if the stuff is easily accessible or not
In the case of stuff that's hard to get, I'd still pirate something if the price is way overinflated. As an example, even if I'm rich, I'm not going to spend 100 bucks for something which should only be 50.

just roll down the hill into india

No, cause some show's were never released on DVD. (Bootlegs don't count. All they are is the same exact thing a lot of torrents are, namely Tivo/DVR recordings). There's this one show, called Seven Days (1998-2001). Real popular. Never saw the light on DVD. Torrent was only way to get it. Ironically, the rip was from SpikeTV airings and I watched it on Spike back in the day.

Would fall in shit. At least there are toilets in here.

i pirate windows so microsoft doesn't know who i am

That's the dumbest thing I heard ever. You don't use internet from windows?

If I buy it they'd know the purchaser and can track me.

I'd buy my own media production company and have them make personalized entertainment which I would release as creative commons on the internet to piss off the MPAA.

they are going to track you anyways, you purchase it or not. You never heard of Micro$oft®'s Telemetry™?

I'm pretty sure I got a liberal logic pic that describes you but I'm not going to spend the time finding it.

Check out the multimedia equivalent of the free software movement, the free culture movement.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_culture_movement

freeculture.org/

creativecommons.org/share-your-work/public-domain/freeworks/

Thread should have ended here

what is bandcamp ?

No. The DRM on digital downloads for movies kills the point of being able to share my library.

>Specifically DRM free FLACs and 320 MP3s
Bandcamp.

>and any album that I search for
There are some albums so rare that I can't even find on torrent trackers.

No, you dont get rich by wasting money. Just look at warrent buffet

I pay Apple for their music streaming service because of ease, and not necessity. While music artists and movies sell out hard and swap shit into their content to advertise, there is no longer a need to buy their shit anymore.

It depends. I don't think they've ever released the full, uncut, uncensored Beavis and Butthead, so if you want to watch that show, you pretty much have to download the King Turd Collection. I also think that when they released Daria on DVD they changed the music, so sometimes you pretty much have to pirate shows. Plus pretty much all anime you're going to have to pirate if you want to watch it, unless you speak Japanese. And despite how much I like physical media, downloading is just way more convenient. What's good is when you can get a box set or something that has a lot of content, because if it's just like one movie, one DVD is not going to last you very long. One thing that I way, way prefer though is reading comic books physically as opposed to digitally. It's just so much more natural, and you can turn it around, and zoom in and out physically, but with a monitor, you know, you're never quite sure what the colors are supposed to be. You just have to hope that your monitor's color settings match up with how the colors are really supposed to look. With a physical book, you don't have that problem.

The fastest way to get Blu-Ray quality movies is still pirating, so yes.

Bandcamp and a shitload of other sites (even mainstream shit like Tidal) offer FLAC. Music hasn't had DRM since forever. Even Apple got rid of that shit in 2009.

On the other hand this is basically impossible for movies and TV shows unless it's some independently released shit where they put in the effort to provide this.

So you know what means? I buy music. I don't buy movies and TV shows.

fpbp

I would only because it seems way easier to buy things than to torrent them, especially when considering the quality of the thing.

That being said, I can appreciate the "pirate" folk on the internet. It isn't theft any more than reading a book to someone who didn't pay for it is theft.

yes

You become poor when you stop "pirating"

No, the point of piracy for me is to evaluate a product before rewarding the producer, no matter how much money I have I still need to evaluate a product before purchasing it.

If the shit's offered in physical format and isn't the kind of shit show is mentioning then yes.

But most of the shit I pirate is abandonware, so whatever.

No, I'd generously support content released under an open license with the money i saved by pirating everything else.

>breathes heavily

I'm doing alright and I have more-or-less stopped pirating.

People who create content deserve to make money from the people who use it. The concept of owning abstract concepts is kind of strange, but that doesn't change the fact that it exists in the social contract and content creators are depending on sales for the paycheck that pays their bills. Piracy disincentivizes creators and investors; it is a social harm.

Stop being a fucking leech on society. If somebody creates something of value that you want, Nathan Fillion told you everything you need to know. They do the job of creating it, and then they get paid. Simple.

youtube.com/watch?v=2LHNYwDNak0

Yes but solely for the reason that with money more asshole would want a share of that.
I can already see it

>Pirate some meaningless shit
>Get sued and asked $2000000 for it.

Only thing I pirate is anime and that's literally the only way to get a good user experience

Used to think like this when I was 19-20 and joined the workforce, now that I'n 26 I stopped thinking like this and oh boy I was such a Steam cocksucker back then... it makes me want to go back in time and put a bullet in my stupid retarded past me head.

tldr don't copy that floppy

>Used to think like this when I was 19-20 and joined the workforce, now that I'n 26 I stopped thinking like this
Well, so why is that?

because it's retard naive thinking and you should always be looking out for number 1.

No, why would I pay for inferior service?

Useful for supporting little indie guys when I feel like being nice
But if I actually wanted to "go legit" and buy all my music, I'd be doing it for the convenience factor. For me, that means only using one service, and Bandcamp doesn't have the library for that. If I have to shop around to find what I'm want then I'm already putting in more effort than pirating it.

not him but I'm an artist and I still pirate things and I don't care

furthermore I never signed any social contract that said I wasn't allowed to download porn. that was the government.

if creators can't make it then they just aren't trying hard enough. I don't care if it weeds out the weak.

it would be a social harm to extinguish piracy

piracy is created by capitalism. with it, it has brought an unprecedented exchange of information and culture, especially for the poor. in many years, those who attempted to stifle it will be seen as book burners, immoral ghosts of the past.

no because fuck holiwood

>content creators are depending on sales for the paycheck that pays their bills. Piracy disincentivizes creators and investors; it is a social harm.

If I was dependant on people buying oxygen from me, people acquiring their air from earths atmosphere would disincentivisise me and cause social harm.

You can't make your business model on selling something as abundant as digital copies or air. Your business model is faulty and that is not my concern in any way. I don't work for you.

You know, Antoine de Saint-Exupery had a nice metaphor. He said, "For centuries, humanity has been descending an immense staircase whose top is hidden in the clouds and whose lowest steps are lost in a dark abyss. We could have ascended the staircase; instead we chose to descend it."

I can't tell you that if you personally decide to move up the staircase instead of downward you will personally see benefit within your lifetime, though it's certainly possible. Psychopaths behave the way you are saying, and while many of them succeed in the hierarchies of the modern competitive world, many do not and have to keep moving around because nobody wants to work with them once they find out how they behave.

And even if not, maybe you'll find your life more bearable and worth living if you have a higher ideal to aim for than just looking out for yourself.

no, fuck paying for DRM

How rich?

And, probably would torrent less, but not all torrenting is prating. So, if you're asking about torrenting, then No. There is a lot of legitimate torrenting activity, and if I was rich enough to stop pirating 100%, I would also be heavily involved in the torrenting community, inside it and outside it being involved in activism, legal advocacy and lobbying.

If I was rich enough to consider stopping all pirating, I would fund numerous politicians to win elections and change quite a few laws. Might even be some DRM shitlords suddenly had "accidents" and became occupied with serious health issues that took them out of the picture.

So, let's talk "rich" again. We'd be talking more than 10 digits worth of rich, and we wouldn't be talking in rubles or rupees.

oh suck it up boy are you still in that age "zen master self help books rule my life and have defined my identity." age.

woah
>if creators can't make it then they just aren't trying hard enough. I don't care if it weeds out the weak.
that's usually the stuff that I like though

do you ever wake up in the morning, look at the mirror and go "my god i'm a dense faggot aren't i"

This. Plus it’s legal in my country.

>Pay $200k for an HPE server
>Only way I can find firmware updates is the pirate bay

Hell I'd stop pirating if film streaming prices weren't stupid.

I'm willing to pay a euro or two for a specific film to see it basically just one. I ain't fucking paying Amazon 20 euros for it.

Not on Netflix or HBO Nordic?bFuck them I'll download it

>If you were rich Sup Forums, would you stop pirating?
no, because even for the rich, some stuff is just not released in Australia even years after it airs overseas. Until that changes I'm pretty much going to keep downloading that content. Geoblocking makes piracy necessary. Not quite sure why global pay per view events aren't standard already, I heard that Blizzcon made a fortune out of the virtual tickets.

However, I now have a gimped version of netflix which saves me downloading some stuff.

>If I was dependant on people buying oxygen from me, people acquiring their air from earths atmosphere would disincentivisise me and cause social harm.

You've really misunderstood the idea here. The social harm is decreasing the production of things that people value - quality works of music, for example. Quality works of music are valued because they take resources to create and often also because certain people created them. When piracy disincentivizes artists from creating quality music, less quality music is therefore created.

Air is not a scarce good produced through effort, it is produced for free by the Earth in effectively limitless quantities. That is why air, unlike quality music, usually has no value to people. And if people don't value the creation of air, disincentivizing you from creating and selling additional air does no social harm.

Society doesn't value air creation. Society does value quality music creation. Disincentivizing quality musicians does social harm. Disincentivizing you from making air does not. Get the difference?

No. Piracy is just easier. Also, I rarely pirate stuff anymore. there isn't software I use that isn't free and I generally buy videogames unless they don't have Linux support.

Which just leaves movies/series/music. I will never pay for those.

Wouldn't piracy actually incentivize people to create the best music they can, given they could hardly make a pittance otherwise? This would increase the production of quality works of music.

No, I would still pirate animuh

the music should not be owned user, and copying recordings and distributing them only hurts an outdated model of music.

if you are a musician today you simply need to be:
1. better than a kid with a garageband on youtube
2. have a patreon
3. do live performances which people will pay to attend in person because you are great

if people copy your music that only increases your reach and creates larger audiences when you tour. The model you are suggesting is one the recording industry spouts because they are excluded from the one above.

lt;dr if you make quality content, people with money will pay for it and you won't give a fuck about people advertising/distributing it for free for you

I never have pillaged on the high seas, but I would continue to use torrents because fuck people who punish legitimate consumers with DRM

>furthermore I never signed any social contract that said I wasn't allowed to download porn. that was the government.
I can't tell if you're joking or not. You don't personally decide whether you like the social contract, it is imposed on you by society. This is a tyrannical aspect of society, but a necessary one for societies to function.

>if creators can't make it then they just aren't trying hard enough. I don't care if it weeds out the weak.
Well, lots of people *should* care. Because some of those creators would have been able to make it if the criminals stealing from them were stopped. A creator can be too weak to make it in a market with criminals hurting their business but still strong enough to make it in a market of lawful people.

>piracy is created by capitalism
Ownership rights and legal contract enforcement are basic ideas of capitalism, so absolutely not.

>it has brought an unprecedented exchange of information and culture, especially for the poor
Well, you'll note that this thread is specifically about rich pirates. I'd say the costs and benefits of poor people pirating intellectual property are less clear.

>in many years, those who attempted to stifle it will be seen as book burners, immoral ghosts of the past
In the soviet union those who attempted to stifle the rise of communism were seen as immoral, but that doesn't mean it was a good idea

Can you list the creators who stopped doing their job directly due to illegal copying of their data?

>You don't personally decide whether you like the social contract, it is imposed on you by society.
user you have the individual freedom to disobey laws if you choose. the social stigma of breaking laws is just not there for copying files on a computer, when compared with killing people in the streets. There is no social penalty for downloading and sharing files, it is actually socially accepted.