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How is it doing, you have something like a pastebin or something

the vowel e is replaced with z
the vowel a is replaced with c
the vowel o is replaced with l

thz quick brlwn flx jumpzd ovzr thz lczy dlg

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pastebin.com/ksjpBH27

right now we are working on verbs

verbs will be made out of groups of three consonants

Current progress for verb bases

z - j - n
to be

r - f - l
laugh

v - n - r (comes from Spanish?)
come

b - b - l
speak

s - t - r
Easter?

k - y - s
to commit suicide

t - f - w
feels

c - c - r (Spanish)
to cook

h - b - n
to have

h - d - t (Rus)
to walk

d - l - t (Rus)
to do/make

s - z - t (Rus)
to say

s - b - n (German)
To write

g - h - n (German)
to go

w - t - n (Dutch)
to know

ch - g - r (Spanish)
to get

d - m - t (Russian)
to think

t - g - m (Estonian)
to make

p - n - r (French)
to know

v - d - t (Rus)
to see

h - r - t (Basque)
to think

t - m - r (Spanish)
to take

v - d - r (Italian)
to see

h - t - t (Rus)
to want

Nouns should be two syllable words like "doge".

t - r - s (Latvian)
to find

k - r - t (Finnish)
to tell

d - v - t (Rus)
to give

r - b - t (Rus)
to work

c - k - l
cuckold

p - z - v (Croatian)
to call

v - r - g (Dutch)
to ask

n - t - r (Spanish)
to try

kh - r - g (Mongolianism)
to need

k - h - l (Chichewa)
to become

d - j - r (Spanish)
to leave

s - r - y (Somali)
to put

t - d - ng (indonesian)
to kick

r k t
rekt

f p p
fap

m sh p
shitpost

t bl r
trigger

bl z t
to blaze it

a t m
to partake in autistic activity

Here's my proposal for vowels and verbs, lowercase user has his own:
a - first person
e - second person
i - third person
o - formal second person (probably will only be used sarcastically; could also be used for any person)
u - nonspecific
y - infinitive/placeholder
All pronounced like in Spanish, except for y, which is schwa. Y is never long.
Exact phonemes aren't particularly important, though. This will almost exclusively be a written language. As in Esperanto, "close enough" will always be fine.

To mark plurals, lengthen the vowel.
To mark past tense, add -ik to the end of the word (after all other suffixes).
To mark future tense, you MAY add -ok to the end of the word; this is optional in all cases.

So with b-b-l "talk" we have:
bybyl - to talk
babel - I talk (to) you
bebal - You talk (to) me
baabelik - we talk to you
babul - I talk (to no one in particular)
babyl - I talk (intransitive)

fugg I just made one, sage it.

Here is basic chart for newfies

In my constructed dialect, I used English mnemonics like "i, u, e" for "I", "you", and "s/he".

We should all just do our own thing and consensus will form through use.

put in OP for the next thread

Nobody would know who's taking to who though initially.

I suggest a strawpoll in the future if we can't reach a decision

We should have articles for gender and animacy.

la : feminine
le : masculine
li : inanimate
lo : animate
lu : abstract
ly : mixed/unknown

heres my system, made mine first check the old thread

a / ā = 1st person
e / ë = 2nd person
i / î = 3rd person
y / ü = formal
o / u = place holder

place vowels with verb consonants
___

for present tense use the first vowel
for future tense change the to the second vowel
for past tense change the to the second vowel

a, e, o are the spanish/japanese pronunciations
î is pronounced like the spanish/japanese i
y is pronounced like the spanish/japanese u
ā is pronounced like the a in english father
u is pronounced like u in english run
ü is pronounced like the german umlaut
ë sounds like the vowel in third

specifics like distinctions between singular/plural or he/she will be made in other parts of the sentence

Bibel la doge.

I'm talking to a bitch.

no gender
no articles
we want to keep it basic

For the user working on a coloured script, a suggestion:

>a = yellow
>e = orange
>i = red
>o = green
>u = blue
>y = grey
For the consonants, wait a bit, people might want to have a certain set of them instead of all.

>bl, a
Those aren't valid consonants. Maybe

>t b l = shitpost
>b l z = blaze it
>s b g = autism [assburger]

They are optional for clarification.

Also, "la dicke" could be a "feminine penis". :D

>>s b g = autism [assburger]
Why not "t-s-m" for 'tism?

a system of long/short vowels would be better used when constructing adjectives and adverbs to show different degrees of intensity

We should avoid gender assignment and such because we do have to keep this simple. If it's just 5 people who end up learning this it'll be a failure

Guys, guys !!READ this!!

4 chan already has an active "language". As it stands we use language that is incredibly poor or impossible English and we can use this to build a proper language.

Consider the way we use language.
>Green text
>Short to the point. Very complex sentences in a short meaningful way

Inferred word usage
>Walk in
>What do
>Who was phone

Again impossible English but very powerful way of expressing ideas

We also have words as it that can't be translated
>kek, topkek, roodypoo >implying etc.

All we need to do is define each of the above concepts grammatically and extrapolate it into a meaningful language.

Also as most shitty green texts start with ">be me". I propose that "beme" be the word for hello.

Beme user!
beme

I can see those being used for shitpost...
>le for a manly woman
>ly ironically for furries
>li for niggers
>la for pussies

But instead of making them articles, make them adjectives, and place them as such.

>"la dicke" could be a "feminine penis"
I like this a lot, as long as it's optional. We need to streamline the language for popular shitposts.

We can use it for both.

I do support article usage later though

we can have consonant combinations that act as one consonant like ts, ng, kt, kr, bl

This works too.

>beme
>not supcunt
supcunt, newfagging much? topkek

ts, ng, sh might be seen as digraphs, not real consonants.

But here I go adding phonology again...

Please stop posting this.

Ts is actually a single consonant, as are ng, sh, ch, etc.
Kt, kr, bl are consonant clusters.
For simplicity's sake, I think we should avoid consonant clusters and digraphs, but we can have affricates if we can stick them on another consonant whose "usual" sound we aren't using. We could maybe use consonant clusters in nouns.

"Dogela" for "bitch"?

Please stop relating us to your shitposting language

Basic consonant system based on the stuff you've been doing:

>b d f h j k l m n p r t v w y z
Like in English.

>g
Always as in Give, never as in Gim

>s
Never Z-like.

>ch, th, dh, sh, zh
Like CHurch, THink, THat, SHampoo, pleaSure

>c, q, x
Not used. Alternatively repurposed to avoid some digraphs.

>implying you don't already speak it

looks like polish

It's an adjective, so it's a separated word, not a suffix. doge la

We should use c for ch, q for th, and x for sh.
Skip dzh, dh, and zh.

Why can't we agglutinate?

doesnt matter if their not real consonants we can make them act like them

we need to figure out how the syllables will work

so far it looks like were working with cvc, cv, and cv, as acceptable syllables

if we treat ts, ng, sh like consonants this will allow syllables like ang, shof, and tsa to exist

it will also help with creating more verb bases

this

English?

I propose the y to sound like the french u.

Way more asthetic

Agglutination makes the language look harder than it's actually, see Nawatł for an example.

This further complicates things, since if you treat "ts" as a consonant people will try to insert vowels between the T and S. The language should be as simple as possible.

Except if we use a digraph "convention" and stick to it. Like English does inconsistently with H, almost nobody would try to tear "sh" into sVh.

What about the following?
C = sounds like TS
CH = sounds like in English
NH = sounds like English NG

The syllables ang, shof and tsa would be anh, shof and ca for spelling purposes.

Anyway, I'm going to bed now. G'night yall.
(can we have the same word for hello and good night/day/morning/afternoon?)

verb proposition:

verbs don't inherently indicate with their vowels person, only present or past tense. Other meanings can be added on with a series of affixes

pronouns:
1ps : lel (prefixal form le | suffixal form el)
2ps : kek (prefixal form ke | suffixal form ek)
3ps : to be decided (will probably be formed like above)

don't know how plural should be indicated desu, maybe vowel lengthening.

b b l - to talk.

present tense stem - babil

with pronomial affixes, we can "conjugate" the verb

lebabil - I talk / am talking

with a direct object that is pronomial, we can add the suffixal form of the pronouns.

lebabilek - I talk / am talking to you.

to indicate the future tense, take the present stem and add the prefix - ba -.

future stem - bababil

lebababil - I will talk
lebababilek - I will talk to you

past stem - bobil

lebobil - I talked
lebobilek - I talked to you

causative - add prefix -fa- to any verb form

fababil - present tense causative stem

lefababil - I cause (something) to talk
lefababilek I cause you to talk

bafababil - causative future stem

lebafababil - I will cause something to talk
lebafababilek - I will cause you to talk

fabobil - past stem (not gonna type the examples out desu)

-ak - participle suffix / verbal noun maker

babilak - talking
babilekak - talking to you

i'll post more when I think of stuff desu.

prepositions I've used in previous examples:

üm - about
et - non pronomial direct object marker
do - towards, to

articles

fug - the

vowels so far

a, e, u, o
like spanish/japanese

i
like in english hit

A
like in english father

E
deep e like in english third

I
pronounced like i in spanish/japanese

U
like german ü

O
like english run

doubling a vowel makes it into a long vowel

We aren't actually capitalizing the vowels in normal writing right

Just add diagraphs.

it would be better if i was like spanish/japanese and I was like hit.

this is just as a reference for now
people on the old thread are trying to make a script

I believe it's a good idea to avoid consonant clusters, digraphs, and diacritics.
Here's another proposal for consonants:
b - Bat
c - raTS
d - Dark
f - Fuck
g - Get
h - Hat (alternatively like Scottish loCH if you are slavshit)
j - pleaSure
k - Cat
l - Lake
m - Map
n - Night
p - Park
q - CHurch
r - Rat (alternatively, a flap as in Spanish)
s - Sit
t - Tool
v - Vicious
w - Why
x - piNG
z - Zombie

It works for Klingon!

berakericoro ly wetorarelico!
halor bena tof de wonan lo atundim, qurot boreso le torcororen...

we should have something to differenciate singular and plural

ok

a, e, u, o, i
like spanish/japanese

I
like in english hit

A
like in english father

E
deep e like in english third

U
like german ü

O
like english run

doubling a vowel makes it into a long vowel

anyone have know any other vowels that they would like to add

Why?

Plenty of languages do without plurals or tenses.

I believe that it is one of the most important bits of information.
It is not the same to warn about one enemy than tow warn about ten.

Just say "enemy" or "10 enemy". It's easy and efficient.

I still think it is a mistake to have many vowels. Using phonemic vowel length we can have 11/12 vowels with just the Spanish vowels + schwa.
The only argument you seem to have in favor of many vowels is that it's "not that hard" to learn, even though it is a pointless complication. I think it will turn people off of learning it, and it also necessitates either digraphs or diacritics which will make typing harder.

Japanese has no plurals but there's nothing stopping you from saying there are ten enemies coming.
The actual number is far more important than "more than one."

Ok, good point.
No number.

from the previous threads i think that this would be a good point to work from

we do not have a way for writing yet
there was alot of discussion on how we should write, some want to use accents and special characters, others think we should make our own script

syllables look like they will be cv, vc cvc
basic consonant clusters can act as consonants to be but in syllables

verbs will be made from three consonant bases
verbs will be conjugated by adding vowels that relate to the subject and object

verbs will hold general information about the subject and object when conjugated

specific information will be found in other parts of the sentence

Okay everyone.

I have to sleep now.

I'll be back at 5pm EST tomorrow.

That's about 13 hours from now, so keep this discussion active. Be sure to *use* the language so we can test its syntax.

Have a good night.

Ghis la revido.

this is possibly the most autistic thread I've ever seen. Congratulations.

I think it's still useful to have number for pronouns, though, at the very least for first and third persons.

See my proposal: with the addendum that lengthening can be marked by your choice of either a duplicate vowel or any diacritic at all. You could even string together a bunch of duplicate vowels with various diacritics to communicate a very large number of people or objects.

Since the primary use of this language is shitposting on imageboards, we need a way to write it in the Latin alphabet. Creating a unqiue script is also a good idea, but we could only use that in images. Someone suggested a syllabary where symbols within the same word are mashed together to look like ideograms and I think that's a good idea.

> I think it will turn people off of learning it
someone with the autism to learn a conlang for shit posting is not going to get turned off from learning just because they might have to learn some more vowels

most of the vowels are already in the english language the only vowel they will have to learn is the ü which is very common in german and french and easy to learn

we should have pronouns but have them be optional and only used if you need to specify something

we could use characters from other alphabets

praise kek

But WHY do we need ten unique vowels? You haven't explained what the benefit will be apart from
>a language with only 5 unique vowels is lame
Having a bunch of vowels will place an unnecessary strain on orthography and add another obstacle for learners but won't actually contribute anything to the language. On the other hand, limiting it to six vowels, all of which are very common in many languages, means that it is easier to get "close enough" so that there are no misunderstandings due to accent in vocaroo readings, while simplifying orthography and minimizing trouble learning phonemes.

Yeah, that will work, especially since we seem to be moving toward putting person in verbs.

The point of not using diacritics is to simplify typing.

what does a schwa sould like

it was explained in the old thread

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schwa
Like the u in supply.
It occurs in a lot of places in English and we represent it with a lot of different letters, usually for etymological reasons.

It really wasn't. You just seem to think it's cooler to have many vowels and you don't seem to care that that makes it harder to write and harder to learn. We want this to be as popular as we can make it and the best way to ensure that is to have a simple and straightforward set of vowels that will be immediately familiar to almost everyone.

easter the toad

does in sound like u in english run, fun

> will be immediately familiar to almost everyone
schwa

I believe that sound is en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-mid_back_unrounded_vowel
But they're very similar

The schwa is a very common vowel, and is in fact the most common vowel in English.

Schwa is represented by O in >63485896

Okay, we've been sidetracked by arguing about vowels for too long.
Let's focus on grammar and morphology.

Are we doing SVO order?
Do adjectives go before the noun, or after?
Do nouns inflect for number?

all the vowels here can be found in the english language except for ü

people in the old thread want a flexible word order
that means we will need cases or a particle system like japanese

I honestly believe we need just normal vowels, the multiple vowels thing is cool but we need it to be easily learnable. Multiple vowels are just an unnecessary barrier, the point of this is to have a simple language for Sup Forumsellects to pick up

I think adjectives should go after the noun, for the record. Flexible word order means more grammar to learn. Again, think simple but versatile.

And ü happens to be quite difficult for English speakers to get right. Most hear it as oo.
The advantage of having just six vowels is that they sound quite different from each other, so they won't get mixed up. If you have a thick accent, you will still be understood well if you are "close enough." The more vowels you add, the harder it is to be "close enough" without sounding like a different vowel.

That's a good idea. We could use affixes.
Nominal would have no affix.

flexible word order means less grammar rules to learn
in english the word order is not very flexible which causes non native speakers to constantly make mistakes

>And ü happens to be quite difficult for English speakers to get right
youtube.com/watch?v=X-h4tC7-mPc

Only flexible word order I'm familiar with is Russian and trust me it's the hardest non-stem thing I've had to learn.

Okay, here's a quick proposal for nouns. It seems like people have already decided that nouns end in -e, so I'm using that.

All nouns end in -e and do not inflect for number. So "dike" is "penis."
Add -an to the end and it becomes accusative case (direct object).
Add -ad to the end and it becomes dative (indirect object).

You can specify gender and animacy with prefixes.
le- marks masculine and la- marks feminine.
li- marks inanimate and lo- marks animate.

So ladike is "feminine penis."

That's because Russian has a complicated nominal inflection system.
In Japanese you use simple postpositions to mark the topic, subject, object, and indirect object for a sentence.
In Esperanto you use the -n suffix to mark the accusative case and everything else but nominative is marked with prepositions.

I'm liking the le- and la-, but what is the point of animate and inanimate?

Also, are masculine/feminine optional?

I livz ylc cnln

>what is the point of animate and inanimate?
Shitposting.

>niggers
>human
could be compressed to just
>linigre

>Also, are masculine/feminine optional?
Yes. There's no grammatical gender, but you can specify the gender of a referent with those prefixes if you want to.
>lebrianna wu

That's a good idea. I support this.

having gender will make the language more complicated

i like the animate and inanimate markers

we still havent decided how nouns will be formed

are you sure we should use cases
i think it might be easier if we use a system like japanese particles but put them infront of the word for things like subject, object, indirect object, time, location, ownership

this way we can have flexible word order and not have to worry about cases

putting the particle before the word will probably make it easier to understand

>having gender will make the language more complicated
Like I said, it's not grammatical gender but rather an optional way to specify the referent's natural gender. If you wanted to specify that you were talking about a female dog you would say ladoge, but if the dog's gender doesn't matter you can just say doge.

>i think it might be easier if we use a system like japanese particles but put them infront of the word
This might work better, actually. In particular I think it will be easier for the average monolingual English speaker to understand, which is important if we're going to get anyone besides language autists on Sup Forums to use this language.

As for noun formation, we can take them directly from various languages, tweak them a little, and stick -e on the end.

doge - dog
dike - penis
kate - cat
vraqe (vrache) - doctor

I don't think we need anything along the lines of the triconsonantal verb roots since they don't inflect.
To nominalize a verb, attach -e to its infinitive.
So bybyl "to speak" becomes bybyle "(the act of) speaking."
You could also do this after attaching affixes to the verb.
bybylik "spoke" becomes bybylike "(the act of) having spoken."
Maybe you could even attach it to a conjugated verb:
babel "I speak to you" becomes babele "(the act of) me speaking to you"

i know were working on nouns but i have an idea for adverbs and adjectives

>build them from two consonants and a vowel
> adjectives end in ai
> adverbs end in ei
> stretch the vowel to add more intensity

example

kitai (qt)
cute
kiitai
really cute
kiiitai
really really cute

thikai (THICC)
fat

thiikai
really fat

thiiikai
really really fat

the nouns are too similar to english
it would be best to combine different languages to make the language more unique
the verb bases take letters from russian, spanish, german, dutch, basque and even mongolianism

this isnt just a mutation of english
this is a unique shitposting language for Sup Forums
in the previous thread it was estimated that it will only be used by 3-33 people in the weeks after it is finished

people in the previous thread came up with the verb roots
they want to make it unique

>people think this will work
>several retards pushing their own ideas and ignoring everyone else
>m-muh credit for creating the Sup Forums language !!!!
Just elect someone as retard king (like me) and standardize it, the guy can use a trip and everyone will recognize him

Vraqe is from Russian вpaч.
Kate could be English or German. We could also make it kote, which would be from Russian.
That's only a sample of four words, anyway.

Here's some more:
tabe - food, from Japanese
siude - city, from Spanish
brote - bread, from German
webe - Internet or World Wide Web, from English (no distinction between these two things in this shitposting language)
hare - cuckold or cuck, from Swedish

Yeah, but I think it's fine if we just use those for verbs. Nouns don't inflect so they don't need that system.

yea i think each part of speech should have its own system
what do you think about this system for adverbs and adjectives

I like it.
I think you can nominalize them with a simple suffix, maybe -ne.
So kitaine would be cuteness.

Why would we elect you king retard?

Holy shit, this is some next level autism.
Good luck nerds.

we need some question words
who(subject) -
to who(object) -
with who(indirect object) -
what -
how -
when -
where -
why -