If you want help: >State the budget & CURRENCY for your build >List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)
CPUs: >NO i5 7500/7600K or i7 7700/K. THEY ARE DEFUNCT AND SUPERSEDED BY COFFEE LAKE >A8 9600 for non-gaming (light tasks) or bare minimum gaming builds WITHOUT a dedicated graphics card >G4560/G4600 for non-gaming (light tasks) or bare minimum gaming builds WITH a dedicated graphics card >R3 1200 - Budget builds (best with OC + fast RAM) >R5 1600 / i5 8400 - Great gaming or multithreaded use CPUs >R7 / Used Xeon / Threadripper - Heavy Multi-Tasking / VM Work / Mixed use
RAM: >Current CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3000-3200 MHz is ideal >Before buying RAM for Ryzen, check your Mobo's QVL or look for user reports
GPUs: >Consider Vega 56 for a Freesync monitor >Crypto-Currency miners have driven GPU prices up (particularly Radeon) 1080p >GTX 1050Ti and 3GB 1060 are the only reasonably priced cards; 6GB 1060 or 4GB 580 if you want to overpay a little >GTX 1070 if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 1440p >GTX 1070/Ti and 1080 are standard choices; currently overpriced >GTX 1080Ti if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 2160p (4K) >GTX 1080Ti
General: >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING >A 240GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor
r8. Should I wait to see what is on sale on Cyber Monday or go with the Black Friday deals that are going on during this week?
I'll probably wait to get the monitor, however.
Cooper Bell
sure buddy
Grayson Green
Any of you fucking guys have any issues with the zotac 1070ti mini? It's 450 USD on and so far I've heard 1 review talking about coil whine, but it seems to be isolated.
Dylan Martin
Should I get a 1070Ti or 1080?
Angel Perry
then we will chew our milk
Jose Hernandez
Can anyone recommend a good motherboard/ram to go with ryzen 5 1600?
Landon Wood
literally just pick one that supports am4
Jayden Hall
What is your monitor and what games you play? If you have the budget, 1080 for sure
Dell S2716DGR, unopened. 2560x1440, 144 Hz, GSYNC. I want to play Doom, Wolfenstein II, XCOM 2, other AAA titles, and F2P shit too.
Blake Gonzalez
You will save so much more with a 1600 and maybe even afford a 1070
Christopher Davis
1080 for sure
Noah Campbell
Drop the Intel chip, go with 1600 with stock cooler.
Get a better video card. 1070 or 1070ti
James Jones
>A8 9600 for non-gaming (light tasks) Fuck no. Terrible power efficiency compared to the G4560
>A8 9600 for bare minimum gaming builds WITHOUT a dedicated graphics card While technically this is acceptable in very particular (third world) cases, it is advisable to wait for the Zen/Vega APUs coming out in 2018 for over double the performance at the same price of current APUs
Dominic Smith
How to get over the anxiety that I've fucked up anything? Ever since I finished my build 3 weeks ago I cant go a day without worrying I've done something bad. 2 of my ramslots dont work and my PSU died last week. Got a replacement and its running fine now but I feel like its a ticking bomb that explode any moment. I consider spending a couple of ten dollars to get someone checking it for me.
Retard The intel is more powerful, don't get memed
William Flores
What is a good site where I put in potential specs, choose a game and see how it'd run?
Jayden Gonzalez
Better GPU + weaker CPU > Weaker GPU + stronger CPU moron.
Lucas Jones
Probably 1080 for the RAM Doesn't matter for gaming
Only good Coffee Lake CPUs are i3 8100, i5 8400, i7 8700, and i7 8700K. Because of mobo prices, the i3 8100 gets eaten by the R5 1600
If your RAM slots don't work, update BIOS. If they still don't work start the RMA process. A lot of companies have an "advance replacement" option in which the send you a new board first so you can stay running. Then all you do is send off the broken component
Depends on what you mean by 'good,' check OP builds.
Fury is definitely aging like milk, honestly worse than anything I've ever heard about from Nvidia. Pretty much everyone knew to stay away from the Fury anyway though.
I bought the RX 470 because I knew it was basically just the last iteration of GCN, which is going to be kicking it until the PS4 Pro / XBOX die.
We'll have to see what happens with NCU going forward. I can definitely tell you that HBM is a meme right now because its bandwidth is unwarranted and the power savings are pretty minor
Brandon Kelly
Not for every game. World of Warcraft for example. Oh well let the cuck buy the 1600 over the 8600k idc
I don't understand what your saying sorry. Could you rephrase?
Henry Carter
If the person is buying a 1070, he isn't playing WoW, you shiteater.
Oliver Garcia
>and that kid in OP is a terrorist Master troll
Caleb White
You told him to buy 1070, his initial build didn't even have one
Evan Perry
I suggested it to him. He could have chosen not to, but he wanted to. Clearly he valued the 1070 more. Fuck. You don't even need a 1060 to play WoW, i am sure a 1050 can do that. Or just buy intel and use the iGPU.
Brody Rogers
Of the two you've given, this one looks like the better option.
I would drop the Noctua cooler, the stock cooler on the 1600 is pretty swell; and if you need something more heavy duty you can always buy it later.
I wish I was as intelligent as this kid. How do you learn electronics like he did?
Joseph King
I think the diff is 5-10 FPS in many games
Julian Walker
It's 165 Hz 2560x1440 with G-Sync.
The G-Sync is probably what is making it so god damn expensive. Like I said in my initial post, I'm probably going to wait for the new adaptive technologies that are coming out before buying a monitor.
Levi Nelson
Just want to make sure everything looks good and nothing sticks out before I start buying the parts. Its my first time building
Justin Thompson
do i need g sync? i really don't want to spend $600+ for a 1440p monitor with g sync
Gabriel Reed
Allah guided him when he tried to figure out how to make bomb.
John Torres
dell has a 144hz 2k 1ms 27" for $350 at bestbuy, online or instore
Noah Collins
>/pcbg/ helps me pick parts >Feel confident >Look up build videos >"Push until it clicks" >"Watch out for static" This shit makes me feel anxious as fuck
Samuel Price
Only if affordable. If your PC can ace 144fps on 144hz don't worry about it, but it's the games where you dip below where the sync shines through. See
Jonathan Bennett
In my opinion you're good to go. If you want to break your wallet you can easily get a more expensive video card.
Lincoln Lee
>that pic Rather than killing yourself you kill the desire to kill yourself Some deep shit.
Update bios or try this dell.com/support/Article/us/en/6099/SLN284985 CMOS reset. It'll rest your motherboard. I recommended this in the last thread and it fixed this guys USB ports that weren't working
Luis Johnson
First build is always the most nerve wracking. Gets exponentially easier after that.
Bentley Rogers
overclock won't get far without delid? 8400 is much better value once full lineup of mobos arrive?
Juan Moore
Care to provide a link for my lazy ass? I assume it has G-Sync.
Hudson Martinez
There's so much info in the pc building world and so much of it is trolling.
1. Don't worry about static as long as you're smart. Don't wear socks and work on a carpeted floor, for example. I wear shoes, and I usually wear latex gloves (Which also prevent your oils from getting on components and lead from getting on your hands 2. Know that for any problem you run into, there is a solution. The best way to avoid problems is to make sure your hardware is compatible, and read reviews. 3. Don't fuck up your CPU insertion and you should be gold. It's easy to do it right, manuals are easy to follow, youtube videos are easy to follow. Yet we still see people here who put in thermal paste on the pins, or insert the CPU backwards etc.
Caleb Sanchez
fuk ill get a cheap one then. better put on my kneepads
Asher Brown
>static Unironically build your computer a) on tiles and b) naked
Caleb Bennett
I, too, suckered in on the Dell gsync 27" deal. I would never have forked up the cash for it and was comparing it against $200 monitors that were similar without gsync (These black friday deals are good)
Can I play at 2560x1080 with a GTX 970 comfortably? I'm fine with medium-high settings.
Brayden Collins
If I'm not planning on overclocking should I get 8600k? or is there a version of it isn't for overclocking that is better or something?
Nicholas Ramirez
link pls. ill sell my ps4 that hasnt been used since june. maybe i wont have to suck as many dicks now. unless they're feminine of course.
Zachary Adams
Alright thanks user.
My current build is pretty old and using a GTX 470 so I'm hoping that even though there's better cards, the cheap(ish) 1060 will still feel like its miles ahead of what I'm used to.
Xavier Mitchell
I5 4440 reporting in. Can confirm igpu can run LoL and actually a heap of other low demanding games
Yes but those monitors are pretty tricky because you have to get 27" exactly and the refresh rate is pretty low. No HDR10 or VA panels yet from what I know, although I haven't checked recently. I wouldn't spend more than $200 on that res ebay.com/sch/i.html?_udlo=100.00&_udhi=200.00&_geositeid=0&_nkw=29um68 Those were the best I found when I looked into it while back
Definitely get the i5 8400. Only a few % theoretical performance difference at stock
Fine as long as you don't have a windowed case
Depends on the cheapest you could get the let's say R5 1600 + mobo otherwise.
Alexander Miller
Literally doesnt matter
Chase Robinson
Sauce on pic? I love chappelles work All SSD's have a software preloaded inside of it already that'll transfer your windows from HDD to ssd cause they know that's a must for everyone.
You can get windows keys for like under $10 from websites like kinguin.net/ Technically its illegal cause they stole those keys from Microsoft though. Also is your friend hot?
Leo Russell
>built my first PC about 7 years ago >booted it up the first time everything looked great >turn it on the next day and the PSU exploded >trying to troubleshoot a self-build PC was the worst shit >eventually just use >spend the better part of a month bring it back and forth and waiting while guys at the shop I bought parts from work on it every time it a new part inevitably blows up >the whole process was just stressful and every time I turned the thing on I was worried something else would go wrong >this lasted for months and finally it stopped fucking up and worked fine until this day >building my second PC in the next month or so and the anxiety will come back once again
Thomas Morris
Don't get a g-sync monitor if your not gonna use it. By the time you wanna upgrade your GPU the prices of monitors will be smaller so your investment will actually be a loss.
Bentley Lee
Rolling
1-5: I spend $615 on a i7 8700k and motherboard combo
6-0: Stick with what I got.
FUCK this has been bugging me.
Dominic Barnes
You don't need it, and I wouldn't recommend G-sync right now anyway because AFAIK there aren't any HDR10 or VA panel G-sync monitors G-sync and Freesync are nice though.
It's in a no man's land as far as both its price point and performance. You can learn everything you need to know about the current lineup of high end CPUs from these graphs
Josiah Morris
>kinguin.net/ I want to use BOTH computers though, wouldn't cloning my HDD cause microsoft to shut down one or the other?
Jonathan Bailey
Amazing What site is that on the right
Michael Brooks
So the 8400 is a good processor? It seems contra instinct to go for it instead of th 8600k but I'm a literal brainlet so I'll just trust you guys
Ethan Baker
But the Ryzen 1600 outshines the 8400 in everything but a few miniscule frames. I'm not joking. I was surprised when I looked at them properly cause I was gonna buy it myself
Cameron Allen
>I will never decide whether I want the 1600 or the 8400 because even pcbg can't come to a concensus >I will never finish my build
Brody Scott
>shitposter is back god damned
Kayden Long
I am wondering if I should just man the fuck up and l2overclock because I'm willing to drop the extra money on the 8600k, but I ended up not ocing my last processor because I didn't want to wear out the hardware faster or some shit.
So maybe I should just admit I'm a puss and go for the 8400 instead.
Julian Morris
>2560x1080
Horrible screen format to be honest, get a 27" 2560x1440p instead or save your money for the day you can afford a 34" 3440x1440p.
21:9 have low game support and all 2560x1080 are so small and pixelated you will want to upgrade when you get money again. A 970 is perfectly fine for that resolution but it works in 1440p as well, though you may have to compromise on top graphical games.
Higher stock speed on the 8600k compared to the 8400, so it will perform better without oc, but I don't think its worth it this time to get the top i5 and not oc it. Core clocks has made more difference in previous generations, and getting a top tier cpu is more about pushing frames at extreme graphical demand today.
Brody Long
But we all agree the 1600 > 8400
Leo Reed
Lol I fuck around with my PC on a carpet floor and in my adidas tracksuit
Christian Richardson
Grab the cheapest offer on BF, problem solved.
Christopher Parker
>all the deals for the parts I want end on Thursday/Friday/Saturday >don't know if they will be on sale come Cyber Monday what do
Juan Ortiz
I suppose buying into intel's platform gets you less fuckery with virtualization (see: NPT bug recently fixed after 10 years) and an igpu with drivers that just werk with linux nice to see their stranglehold beginning to weaken though
Brandon Lopez
Shop online
Chase Wright
What kinds of games/settings would warrant going for the 1600x + heatsink vs just the 1600?
I don't know if its worth the extra cost in my situation but I also don't want to regret not going for it if it would be genuinely worth it.
Wyatt Phillips
>want to upgrade PC >look for motherboards >X370 ones look nice >botnet Intel WiFi >botnet DAC with built-in DRM >DRM is now a feature apparently >"Content Protection"
Dylan Bell
Not sure really. Don't think so though hey. A friend used his win cd to get me win 8.1 and we both could get updates(not sure if he used key too). You'll wanna do some googling though cause people seem to lazy to reply to you. But I doubt it hey. I think Microsoft by now is aware that this could be an issue and will let you clone 3 times maybe. Google though
Asher Young
Intel master race AMD Poos need not reply
Gabriel Cox
Hardware Unboxed, a youtube channel. The guy running it also writes for Techspot IIRC.
If you meant top dog instead of shitposter, you're correct
R5 1600 is fine on a price/perf basis, but it doesn't beat the i5 8400 in games.
>Higher stock speed on the 8600k compared to the 8400 The all core turbo is only 0.3GHz different, at 4.1 and 3.8 respectively. Definitely not worth the extra money if you don't OC, not worth the money on a percentage basis even if you do.
The only reason to get the 1600X is if you're hoping to win the silicon lottery and get a higher OC or a more power efficient mild OC.
>But the Ryzen 1600 outshines the 8400 in everything but a few miniscule frames. Depends on a lot of things, including GPU pairing, resolution, and settings. Not to mention particular game titles.
