If you want help: >State the budget & CURRENCY for your build >List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)
CPUs: >NO i5 7500/7600K or i7 7700/K. THEY ARE DEFUNCT AND SUPERSEDED BY COFFEE LAKE >G4560/G4600 for non-gaming (light tasks) or bare minimum gaming builds with a dedicated graphics card >R3 1200 - Budget builds (best with OC + fast RAM) >R5 1600 / i5 8400 - Great gaming or multithreaded use CPUs >R7 / Used Xeon / Threadripper / i7 - Heavy Multi-Tasking / VM Work / Mixed use
RAM: >Current CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3000-3200 MHz is ideal >Before buying RAM for Ryzen, check your Mobo's QVL or look for user reports
Graphics cards: >Consider Vega 56 for a Freesync monitor >Crypto-Currency miners have driven GPU prices up (particularly Radeon) 1080p >GTX 1050Ti and 3GB 1060 are the only reasonably priced cards; 6GB 1060 or 4GB 580 if you want to overpay a little >GTX 1070 if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 1440p >GTX 1070/Ti and 1080 are standard choices; currently overpriced >GTX 1080Ti if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 2160p (4K) >GTX 1080Ti
General: >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING >A 240GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider M.2 form factor a meme
My Asus P8Z68-V Pro motherboard requires two boots (boot then reboot) for Windows to detect the NIC. It's a consistently observable trend. Already have latest BIOS installed. What gives?
Carson Miller
Update your LAN drivers
Parker Ward
QUESTION:
Few years ago I bought a GTX770 from EVGA, when it was very high-end; it's still doing a very good job with new games, but I was wondering if SLI-ing it with another 770 (dirt cheap now) would do a comparable job to buying a brand new $350-400 high-end card.
I never tried SLI, what sort of performance improvement should one expect in general for supported games? If I could get one for like $50, would it actually improve my performance and postpone buying a new card?
Adam Watson
no just get a used 1080 about $380
if it was amd card like 7970 then it would have been worthy to crossfire
Lincoln Garcia
Why, is SLI worse than crossfire somehow? Also there's quite a difference between another $380 and like a used one for $50, if it pushes the expiration date by a year I'm game.
Gabriel Richardson
Multi-GPU in general is just bad. Two GPUs rarely perform as well as the high end cards of the next generation, and not every game supports it. On the ones that don't your second card is basically dead weight.
Jordan Johnson
is the ram situation on ryzen good now or do I still need to dive into QVLs? are QVLs 100% reliable?
Benjamin Reed
SLI/X-fire is bad because VRAM doesn't stack. Games don't support SLI/X-fire. Driver support for them are also garbage.
The only good thing about SLI/X-fire is jerking off to score after benchmarking, heavy rendering or CUDA/ML. For gaming, they are straight garbage.
Evan Anderson
>2x16 gb samsung b-die I've heard Ryzen has problems with double rank memory. Has anyone run it successfully on 3200?
Kevin Davis
Case is disgusting. Deserves better. Try a Fractal design R4.
Levi Jenkins
I'm running B-Die as 3200Mhz no problem. Corsair LPX 3000Mhz Memory 2x4GB
Ian Reed
You can guarantee yourself 3200MHz by buying a Samsung B-die kit. It just works. Other than that, refer to the QVL. They're usually accurate.
It's possible, yes. Some people have even gotten 32GB running higher than that, though you'll need something like the C6H and plenty of time to tweak for that.
Mason Lewis
what kit and what motherboard are you running?
Andrew Howard
>Buy kit of RAM >Vendor: Corsair (Samsung) >Think it's B-Die >Scroll down >It's E-Die
Logan Lewis
Replied to wrong post, was meant for But my mobo is a shitty PRIME B350-M and the RAM is Corsair LPX Vegence 3000Mhz
Ryder Ross
Alright thanks.
Henry Robinson
are you sure it's B-die? it's a 8gb kit
Jonathan Bennett
When do you guys think the next generation of graphics cards will come out?
Nathan Morgan
Around the same time that Pascal did last year. It won't be really early in the year.
Andrew Lee
Q1/Q2 2018.
Daniel Robinson
HAs anyone found and good deals Sup Forums insisted for months that I just wait™ For Black Friday
Samuel Miller
can I get a good offer on a new GPU during the black friday sales?
Im in the uk if that helps
David Perez
Depends. What are you looking for? Otherwise wait for Cyber monday. Apparently the 580s are going for 200 a piece now.
Christopher Howard
if by good you mean around the MSRP then yeah
Jacob Price
Dumb question: I feel its about time to upgrade my GTX760. I'm a poorfag and want something new under 400. Whats the best card in that range?
Sebastian Hill
1060 6GB or 580
Jason Howard
Can probably find a 1070 on sale now, otherwise 1060 6GB
Cameron Adams
Jet.com has a MSI 1070 mini for $408, Walmart has the a MSI 1070 for $415. A couple bucks over, but pretty close
Bentley Rodriguez
Quick! For someone that wants to build an i5-8400 + GTX 2060 (not a typo, I'm talking about Nvidia Ampere), should I buy an 80+ Bronze 450W PSU for the price of an unbranded 350-400W PSU or an 80+ Bronze 650W PSU for the price of an 550W PSU?
Christopher Allen
why do GPUs cost so fucking much
how is PC gaming superior when for the price of a GPU alone you could buy an entire PS4 or an entire Xbone
Why does every mATX AM4 board seem to have shit reviews?
Jordan Miller
usually only people with bad experiences post reviews because mining, and quality of PC gaming is superior to console. +mods
Aiden Diaz
I don't live in the US and this PSU isn't on sale here
Caleb Jackson
I'm looking at a (U.s) 1,250$ gaming pc, but I'm not really sure where to start at. First time building a pc, and I'm doubting all the parts I've looked at so far.
Michael Morales
the 650 bronze then
David Collins
I mostly want to emulate older stuff (no wii u or anything that recent. Mostly wii and ps2). Would a 1700x suffice? Last I checked the new 8700 intel chips were all out of stock. And which board should I go with? Something that has good sound would be nice, but really I just want the best I can get.
I got thousands of american dollarydoos saved up and no expenses I need to pay for, so I don't really have a limit to spending.
Brayden Anderson
I also want to game too, btw. Not just emulate. Forgot to mention that.
Jackson Thomas
Anyone has a ASUS PRIME B350-PLUS?
I saw some bad reviews about it but it seems it got better after a BIOS update. I found a pretty nice black friday deal for it so I'm wondering.
Jeremiah Smith
Does that 1,250 include monitor, keyboard, mouse, etc? or just the tower and contents?
Chase Gray
where can i look for black friday deals?
Christian Campbell
Just the tower and contents. I'll be looking for a monitor later, but I'm looking to get the pc built first before anything.
Joshua Campbell
Lol. It's actually Micron. I guess I got the model confused.
I tried to list these in order of supposed superiority in descending order. It seems that the first one is extremely expensive for some sort of unknown reason, the second one is fairly good for slightly less, the third one appears to be exactly the same but at the best price, and the third is slightly cheaper but w/o G-Sync. What does Sup Forums recommend in this case? I'm trying not to foreclose on my house for a good-looking monitor.
i5 8400 z370 mobo GTX1060 6GB 2x8 GB DDR4 3200 RAM (try corsair or g. skill) samsung 850-EVO 250GB SSD 4TB HDD 600-650W PSU - gold that'll set you back about 1,100, then you have another $150 to pick a case you like, thermal paste, etc.
Adam Morgan
Just get a case with good airflow, don't overclock it and you'll be fine
Lincoln Roberts
How is the Fractal Design C case? Will it run the same speeds as a regular card? And are single fan cards louder than double fans?
Ryan Ross
All righty, thanks! Does it matter when it comes to cases that much, such as spacing issues? Or is that almost a nonexistent issue in pc building?
Jacob Cruz
Do I need to buy and use thermal paste or will there be preapplied paste for the ryzen 5 1600/wraith cooler combo?
Juan Gonzalez
Preapplied
Jackson Gomez
if you get a regular sized mobo and not a micro you'll just need a mid sized case, everything should theoretically fit fine. I'd advise going for a cheap quality case like a fractal design that has good reviews if you don't plan on upgrading parts/going in the PC very often and don't want it to look fancy. just make sure it has some good airflow and reviews etc
Alexander Morales
also check the QVL on your mobo for the RAM to make sure you won't have any issues with it
Leo Martinez
Thanks
Zachary Bennett
Gonna buy this kawaii motherboard :3
Grayson Allen
MILKY
Connor Turner
Why do people still use framerates for gaming benchmarks instead of frametimes? Framerates don't scale linearly. Like this pic was spammed a lot when Ryzen was released, but if you look closer and do the math the difference between 484fps and 309fps is only 1.17ms. That's like the difference between 60 and 56fps. When talking about high framerates a large swing means very little in terms of what you feel in the game, yet people still take high framerate benchmarks seriously.
Joshua Wood
Are those better options? I bought the 1700x with mobo for 280$
Samuel Perez
Its just used as a means to illustrate that there is a difference between their performance when not bottlenecked by the gpu (see: pretty much all modern games). Its not meant to be a direct representation of real performance
Carson Garcia
wait ive a better question:
if i stick this gpu into pic related setup can i play witcher 3 and fallout 4 ?
Tyler Price
Just a thought, next time announce your thread so I'm not sitting in the old one
I would not buy Seagate.. check on that model number at blackblaze
Better to sell it and buy an new card when the next iteration of Radeon and Nvidia cards come out
>if it was amd card like 7970 then it would have been worthy to crossfire Fuck no, each of those cards is like 275W
1060 or 580 for 1080p
As long as it's 80+Bronze with a decent warranty I don't think brand matters
Options are worth the price. If you want a closed system, sure, get a console. The best shit starts on PC (PUBG, Minecraft, VR, mods, etc), and it has whole genres of games consoles don't have.
You can sit around and mine for cryptogold or fold proteins if you want to as well.
Gavin Brown
I bought parts last year but due to irl disasters with structural defects in the home I haven't gotten around to building it yet.
Is it worth trying to sell the 6700k and the motherboard and to get a 8700k and a compatible mobo instead?
Wyatt Russell
Just build the thing.
Jordan Young
pls help i don't wanna waste my shekels
Michael Wood
Ordered a [spoiler]Seagate Barracuda[/spoiler], see you in a week RMA.
Bentley Lewis
An other recommendations for cheap storage? Would you also advise against wd, too?
Jonathan Moore
First is more expensive because its IPS and Asus. Its the best one available though imo. Last is a freesync monitor not gsync
Wyatt Parker
So, what monitor brands nowadays don't have garbage QC with their IPS monitors? Dell and Benq still any good?
Michael Sullivan
Dell, Benq and Asus are reliable. Others are a bit more of a lottery
Alexander Wright
I heard that the ROG Gladius II was actually a good mouse, is that accurate?
I was going to get a Mionix NAOS but if the Gladius II is as good or better, then I'd rather get it just for the sake of Aura support
Luis Hall
All of them are IPS and the first three have nearly identical specs as far as I can tell. The last one is just a bargain option. Do you think the third option is the best, being the cheapest of the 3 nearly-identical monitors and also having G-Sync?
Cooper Phillips
>Asus are reliable >Asus Haven't they been the absolute worst around when it comes to dead pixels and uneven lightning? I was shopping a couple months ago and I've heard nothing but bad luck. Honestly, after the screen in my old zenfone 2 went to shit after a year and a half, I have no confidence in them for anything display related despite them still being great with mobos.
Nathan Cruz
I'm talking about the high-end lines which Asus are very good with. The swift monitors may be overpriced and gamer-y but they have very good feedback and little lightbleed on the IPS. I think every company aside from Benq takes a dive on the mid/low end
John Hall
Read OP; builds are there
Read OP; emulators do really like single core so if you know you're going to play BotW it might be worth it to get an unlocked Intel CPU like the 8350K or 8600K, although normally I'd never recommend those for gaming (the locked versions are smarter choices)
Logan Barnes
Is it true these type of heatsink/heatpipe will perform better on horizontal placed motherboards? The rationale is supposedly, the heatpipes will work better when all 4 are standing vertical.
Or is it just a myth?
Owen Carter
How does one go about building a god tier PC in a mini case?
Parker Morgan
By abandoning hope
Brody Garcia
With water cooling and a fuck load of frustration building
Grayson Gutierrez
...
Asher Perez
Is Gigabyte a good choice for GPUs?
Ayden James
bought the only non-essential part of my new rig first haha
Hudson Kelly
Can I plug the PWM fan hub on my case to any fan port on my mobo or does it HAVE to be CPU_FAN? My case is telling me to plug it into CPU_FAN but it's taken up by my AIO CPU water cooler.
Ethan Mitchell
Thought it was time to upgrade my trusty old HD4800 & i5-2500k. Unless it's incompatible I'm going to continue using my Define R2 case, tx650 corsair psu, 2tb hdd and benq 2420hd monitor as well. pcpartpicker.com/list/3qRFcc
Is the M.2 ssd worth it over the 2.5"? It's only $30 more and supposedly has 4x the read speed.
It's my first time building a PC on my own and I have no idea what I'm doing, does it look acceptable for playing games/movies?
Hunter Roberts
Hey, I was you like two years ago, but at least I had an 1TB drive.
Yes, sticking there a 1060 would be good, even a 1070ti/80. The 1080ti and Vega 64 would be kinda bottleneck. But, I was already playing FO4 and TW3 with that build. I'd suggest to get a second hand 8GB 1600MHz RAM stick for double channel, it should be like 50$. Also, why isn't your mobo dying on fire? normalfag. but, about the deal, it doesn't seem a really good deal as I have seen some at 185€ (Spain), so keep lurking, you should find a 3GB one with a lower price
>there is people who doesn't oc their monitors ???
Colton Bennett
Yes, but you just have to set ignore the CPU FAN in the bios.
John Collins
Pic related is mine. I gotta say, the A8 is really shitty and I got a shitty, loud cpu cooler. Should I just buy a new motherboard and get a Ryzen?
Depends on whether that (I assume) prebuilt has a PSU with PCIe power connectors. If it has at least a 6+2 pin then you're fine for a 1060, otherwise you have to get a new PSU which means ensuring a standard 20+4 ATX connection between PSU and mobo. Lots of prebuilts have proprietary connectors
Eh, I would say so. But I would suggest the i5 8400 which is about on par with the i7 6700K
Ian Moore
I'm completely new to this, so pardon my question if it's dumb. Would it be safe to pick my own parts even if I know next to nothing about doing that? I don't want to buy a great prebuilt that's bottlenecked by a single shitty part. I want something good for vidya and a thousand internet tabs.
Levi Morgan
good cpu good gpu lot of ram
congrats you're a pro builder
now shut up and go to pcpartpicker and bang something together then return asking for advice
Henry Morgan
Used parts are fine but personally if you're buying newer hardware I'd say just buy new
Yeah, just get the R3 1200 to pair up with your 1050Ti
Unless your case has a 2.5" mount I'd suggest the m.2 for the form factor
WD is fine, but I'd just stay away from Seagate and 1.5TB and 3TB drives in general. If you can research the model number
Consult the OP builds
Logan Thomas
>Eh, I would say so. But I would suggest the i5 8400 which is about on par with the i7 6700K
