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/HSG/ Home Server General
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Anyone else non/x86?

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Does ARM count?
Also, holy shit user. Do something about that dust.

Yes, Odroid C2, works perfectly as file server and doubles as a media center.

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Is there much need in striping consumer SSDs on a fairly basic Proxmox/ESXi setup? I know the question is fairly situation but would a single consumer SSD such as an 850 EVO be capable of running a good number of VMs that aren't too active?

the toaster life is the only life my dude

I really want one of those Talos boards but unfortunately I'm not made of money

Got a free poweredge R630 from a datacenter that was gonna toss it, haven't had an opportunity to check out specs yet.

I have about 10 containers and 2 VM's running off 1 consumer SSD with no performance issues (little slow on rebooting the node, but nothing major). Obviously have backups, and if you need uptime then raid1/equivalent is not a bad idea.

>old as fuck HP that uses parallel SCSI
>melted optical drive
>floppy mizzing bezel
>HD missing a sled

>old as fuck sun box

>most of it isnt even powered on

At least you have enterprise class equipment OP, i'll give you that over the normally retarded OP larping his raspi are servers

>works perfectly
no it doesnt

yes, moar IOPS

>consumer SSD
technically yes but its a bad idea

>i dont understand why enterprise class SSDs exist
>i dont know what UREs, write endurance or power loss protection is

I hate that light.

well I hate you too
fight me

Hey /hsg/, I'm thinking about grabbing a NUC since they're pretty cheap right now and turning it into a home server. The thing is, I'm not sure what I would really do with it other than 24/7 torrents and maybe setup gitlab. What do you all use your boxes for?

Am I safe running a single Dell PowerEdge r710 off a standard home circuit? It's just for some low power computation stuff.

sorry but that looks like ancient trash, you were probably better using some old desktop than buying 12 year old ebay garbage

>larping his raspi are servers
if it functions as a server, its a fucking server. the hardware is irrelevant. A raspi running a LAMP stack is a fucking webserver, how does the hardware make something "not a server". Using real server hardware is bullshit for most small home networks, unless you don't care about how much you're spending

Using a repurposed MSI gaming laptop as a debian server with 16 gigs of ram and an i7 as a VM host/file server. Also running plex on baremetal.

then with virtualbox:
win7 torrenting box
win2012 server, for DHCP and DNS
headless debian install for personal VPN
headless debian install for for paid VPNs (for teh torrents, acts as a gateway so i can just point traffic/other machines to it)

It does run a little hot especially when torrenting but it does the job for now. Eventually going to migrate to an R710 that i have laying around right now with ESXI but I'm too lazy, and most of my storage is USB hard drives, because im a fag. the 710 doesnt have usb 3.0 ports so it would be a big IO hit, more so than it is right now.

Pic related, load avg of the MSI over the past 48 hours.

So I have to ask.
>win7 torrenting box
Why? Install linux and run rtorrent. There's a reason people use it on seedboxes.
>win2012 server, for DHCP and DNS
Double fucking why. That's a ton of overhead for no good reason. Debian with Pi-Hole or set up your own. That's a massive waste of resources.

Hell, even combine it with your VPN headless rig (assuming your config will support it).

That's a hot mess. Good variety of uses, but it's just a dog's breakfast setup.

what are you running on that qube? is it the x86?

>you can put in a i3 3240 into a gen8 microserver and it WILL read ECC ram and perform better than the xeon
why the fuck did nobody tell me this sooner

Make a webpage

>Didn't check catalog, sorry if the thread exists.
Don't ever make a thread again if you're this stupid.

>and it WILL read ECC ram
According to the Intel homepage it doesn't:
ark.intel.com/products/65690/Intel-Core-i3-3240-Processor-3M-Cache-3_40-GHz

It apparently does work and HP sold em too
No idea why intel never documented their CPU right

The goyim know
Shut it down

Any suggestions for a backup appliance? Currently testing borg on linux but something that interfaces better with windows machines without having to mount via smb/cifs would be nice.

>70% of an i7 to run some networking and transcodes
lxc or jail that shit pls

yes, normal outlets will handle 12 amps derated, that box isnt going to draw >1kW.

they're not servers you retard, just like candy bar nokia isnt a gayming system just because it has that snake game. stop being poor and buy real hardware.

>MSI gaming laptop
not a server either

>useless graphs which tell you nothing without labels

>i wish i had 8 DNS servers at home

% of an i7 to run some networking and transcodes
nigger please, thats nothing, it takes more than that from a dual e5-2660v2 to transcode 120mbps 4k h265

veeam

What would be the best option for a cheap, low powered file and email server?
Could an android phone do that? Is it the best option?

Friendly reminder that you should ignore the illiterate spic who runs badly configured pirated proprietary software. He doesn't use a trip for a reason.

Trying to set up a single node ceph cluster with some old drives. Got an old desktop, transplanted it into a bigger case, installed debian, now the ting goes skkrrrrrrrrraa pap pap pap ka ka. This is not the first time I've had a drive die within 24 hours of installing linux

IMO mail servers are a pain to maintain. You have to actively maintain a multitude of anti-spam software and rules, secure your email against open relay and do inspection of messages to prevent malware. Even having experience with all the main unix open source implementations I wouldn't recommend this task for a newbie.

On the other hand anything that you can install samba can be a file server. The requirements require on what kind of storage and throughput you expect of it.

>he doesnt run a 4 node exchange cluster at home

> MS Outlook on Mac OS X

>still doesnt have a 4 node exchange cluster
>or a 10 node Remote Desktop farm

Thats actually quite stupid. It has to be the most asinine thing I've read in my life. Whats the point of 4 or 10 nodes if those are just virtual machines running on two physical hosts?

>i dont understand why you would want to segregate and isolate applications and network traffic

My little server, solid as a rock stable since 2011. only down time has been to upgrade h/w over the years. Original server used an Opteron 170/4gb ram combo. (still got them btw in storage)
Windows Home Server 2011
FX 8300
8GB
1TB (OS/Client backups/few videos)
9TB 4x3tb R-5 (1997 - 2017 Data)
2TB 2x2tb R-1 (2018+ Data)

2x Zyzel NSA320S NAS (Offline Server complete data Backup)
1. 8TB 4tbx2 R-0
2. 4TB 2tbx2 R-0
Server + Network Gear + NAS all connected to UPS
3TB USB External drive (2nd copy of Core Data + Server Sys Image + Client Backups)

Server backs up clients once a day, Server's data is backed up/managed by Macrium Reflect. Can restore entire server to operating state via Macrium if worst should happen.

> Cluster
> Segregation
You are embarrassing yourself.

What do you run on it besides file server and backup?

>they're not servers you retard, just like candy bar nokia isnt a gayming system just because it has that snake game.
terrible analogy. remind me again how a raspberry pi running a LAMP stack is "not" a web server. I'll be waiting

>stop being poor and buy real hardware.
why? how exactly would it benefit me? Server hardware is fucking pointless for a single user home network where your servers processor is idling 98% of the time. Real server hardware is noisy, power consumption is high, its ridiculously expensive. I can understand buying server grade storage devices for a home network since data storage in this case is actually crucial

Thats not to say I dont recommend people not get real server hardware for their networks if they can deal with the noise and costs. But being poor has nothing to do with it, you could live in an expensive condo in downtown wherever and have nowhere to put a server rack in your home

Yes, server hardware is more reliable but it doesnt actually fucking matter if you have your shit properly backed up and you can just replace dead components and your downtime wont be less than a day. Nobody actually cares about your huge e-peen with the the hand-me-down server hardware you found on ebay

>He doesn't the concepts of what software and hardware are and differ

Have you seen this guys photos? He lives in a flea infested cave. He is actually the last person you want to take advice about being or not being poor. Just ignore.

Handles media streaming of entire video/music collection to two WD Live players. Also can log into to it remotely via web page to upload/download files and can stream media library from within the web page gui (aka Youtube). The connection is encrypted. Also runs good ol FTP and Web server. My web page and the Remote Web access page are two separate entities.

One of my solar panels stopped working and I need to go up there to fix it. Right now I am using too much power from the grid.

Does anyone here have a recommendation for a USB serial terminal that works with Cisco switches? I haven't looked around a lot but the old laptop I used for that sort of stuff died.
>nb4 telnet
enjoy that security m8

>i still dont understand how you would segregate things
>im so retarded i just use the default vlan for everything
>i dont even know what pvlans are

remind me again how playing snake on a nokia doesnt make it a gayming system

>processor is idling 98% of the time
nigger, in my pics here it shows im using 20ghz of capacity just idling

>its ridiculously expensive
so what you're saying is you're poor and cant afford to spend more than $25 yet want to larp as if you belong in this thread

> if you have your shit properly backed up
>he doesnt have cases of disks

Are noise dampening rack servers a thing? Can they be DIY? I can live with the noise but GF hates it.

also i gota go out ill be back in a few hours to talk shit to you fags some more

>Are noise dampening rack servers a thing?
yes, APC makes some, they're several thousand dollars, no one buys them, so you wont find them used on ebay

>b-b-but those are PS3's
>how can it be a supercomputer? Its clearly a console, its for playing video games!
this is you

>>b-b-b-b-ut those are PS3's
>>how can it be a supercomputer? Its clearly a console, its for playing video games!
this is you, retard

Good on you for not explaining shit by the way. What advantage do I gain from running real server hardware, aside from not being called poor by some retard on Sup Forums?

(i'm poster of the r710 question)
thanks a ton man.

To me simple and functional is always preferred over complexity. Could I go all out and setup multiple lans and run 4+ virtual servers plus 3 physical ones,Sure. But why?. I ain't trying to run a business class setup at home or trying to support 500 users. Just me and my girlfriend make use of it. A single server with 1 single network is plenty. I'm more concerned with keeping my data safe to be honest. I ripped my entire DVD collection. 200+ dvds, not counting box sets. I did this over several years as I got more dvds. I don't want to have to redo all that if I can help it.

>nigger, in my pics here it shows im using 20ghz of capacity just idling
Nobody cares about your use case of constantly downloading and uploading terabytes of tranny and cuck porn, most people don't need that much power for a simple media server

This.

Nice socks.

>he backs things up on rotating hard drives
>doesn't even know about tape backups
I thought you where the one accusing people of LARPing as sysadmins.
thanks bb.

Hey guys, I'm finally getting my ass in gear with getting all my media backed up and setting up some NAS. Do you think a Raspberry Pi 3 could handle Next Cloud and an external drive? I've never used a Pi before, the specs look nice on paper but I don't know how well they perform in practice

USB and Ethernet share bandwidth, and the ethernet is only 10/100 to start. If you are accessing it over the WAN for small data transfer and storage, chances are you won't notice it, but if you actually want a small SBC NAS you are going to need something like an Odroid C2 that has 1GbE and USB3 on different chipsets.

Depends on what kind of I/O speeds you're expecting. I know on the RPi 2 and older, the USB and Ethernet ports were on the same I/O bus, so if you're connecting your external drive via USB, you're probably going to get shit transfer rates over the network.

If you want a dedicated backup server, I would recommend a dedicated NAS, one of those RPi clones but with 1,2 SATA ports, or a cool storage server that has like 24x SAS Hot-swap slots. Also, if you want tape backups (super-expensive startup, but last for a while), you can buy one of those drives (LTO Tape Drive I think) and a handful of the tapes.

it's a MIPS Qube with NetBSD 5.2 on it
needs to be upgraded to 7 because apparently nobody decided pkgsrc was worth saving before 2014

Yeah I mean I'm just talking about having our own Google Drive for photos and music. All my 15gb torrents would still be downloaded on my desktop at home, I don't need like a plex server or anything

>Pi clones with SATA
Got any examples? I'm curious

I also heard about archival grade blu rays being an economical alterative to tape drives. Some are rated to last 100 years

See /HSG/ post,

think to myself, cool.... but oh wait, that self important asshole is probably here shitting up the thread lie he usually does. Get 10 posts in, yup, aspie bro is on full blast today, asserting his importance, casting judgement no one asked for.

I mean seriously, what kind of sysadmin gets on here and slams on people's hobbies. The mentally ill user.

I want to start doing archival on bluerays, but as far as I can tell the largest bluerays currently available are around ~50GB. I think there is also 100GB discs but 50GB are more common. They are still cost-effective, but even ancient LTO3 tapes can fit 400GB per tape, and you can get autoloaders for that. As far as I know there are no blueray autoloaders.

Bud, you don't have boxes of backup disks like me? Just look, I have such a huge peen compared to your small one you peenlet

do you guys like me yet?

Ever wonder why he constantly accuses people of LARPing as sysadmins? Because he is projecting.

What's an autoloader?

This is true for whenever you see someone making baseless accusations at a random user here. Why do you think Sup Forums has become so obsessed with soyboy, nu-male and cuck? Projecting those insecurities.

An autoloader is the component of a library that will automatically switch out tapes. That way an single archive can span multiple tapes without requiring an operator to switch them out.

>Anyone else non/x86?
I have a sun ultra 5 doing nothing because it doesn't have enough memory for installing gentoo and it's also kind of ancient.
And it propably won't be used as a server either, maybe a paranoid fallout shelter unix box for when Intel ME gets globally busted and the world ends.

I ordered some parts for a seedbox/nas during black friday and have an rpi running various darknet nodes and my irc client, as far as servers go.

BananaPi or OrangePi I think were some meh clones. Beware, they are not as widely supported as the RasPi, but you can absolutely find compatible software no problem. Most popular Linux distros have an ARM install CD, and if not, you can always compile Gentoo for ARM ;)

You are right but be careful with "he who shall not be named" of boards.

Acronova Nimbie USB Plus does Bluray and M-Disc autoloading & backup for ~$1000.

Unfortunately, Blurays and 100GB M-Discs are fucking expensive in comparison. Not really an ideal solution, but it is one.

Its pretty amazing how quickly a general this young got a resident hyperautist so quickly
I think were setting records here

Thats true. See . There is virtually no mail there. Only notifications from his own monitoring systems. Considering thats true he is running 10 mail servers (which is stupid since they are just 10 VMs on top of 2 metals). Just for himself. No job, no friends, no family. Thats exactly what LARPing is.

That looks like an option. You can get a Powervault 132t and a IBM LTO4 SCSI drive for something like $300 on eBay. And tapes can be had for less than $15 a piece for 800GB uncompressed, so I don't really see reason for bluerays

What containerizer are you using?

It certainly is one, but Amazon sells the 100GB M-discs at 25 for $450, so it's kind of pointless in comparison if you have the money for LTO tapes and drives.

New, shucked hard drives are $15/TB now, they've surpassed tape in the value arena.

I use mine for autodownloading torrents using flexget and transmission-daemon. Also I use it as a file server and a distcc server for helping to compile things (I run Gentoo on all my machines). I also run a local dns server and a tinytinyrss instance.

I would love to see resources about $15/TB drives. Everything I have seen has been more around $25/TB unless you want to get the 2TB whitelabel drives on ebay which are around $20/TB.
You also have to keep in mind that normal HDDs are more prone to shock damage, generally last less time cold, and develop more bit rot than modern tapes.

Why would you use windows for torrenting, dhcp and dns? All of these things have can be done better on GNU/Linux.

Guys I've been building my network recently. I've purchased a PCEngines APU and segmented my network into different subnets. I've dumped all phone-home and IOT meme devices into a separate VLAN where then can UPNP and NAT-P and shit everything around. There is also a guest network. My next stage is to reinforce the main wireless network. Although a different subnet (I'm not bridging cable and wireless for this) it will be able to access the main LAN where the computers and server reside.

Everything is handled by consumer grade stuff like cheap managed gigabit switches and mips routers with OpenWRT. Everything is also as Unix and open source as it can be. I prefer that way because it is easier to replace. Last year a lightning bolt fried my expensive switch and I don't want that happening again.

Is WPA2 enterprise the best I can do? I've been thinking of setting up FreeRadius EAP-TLS to authenticate against my existing samba4 domain but I'm not sure if there are better solutions around.

Any suggestions are welcome.

FreeRadius is pretty awesome, but it can be a bitch to configure and maintain if you don't have any experience with it. I would suggest it though.

(you)
The APU is acting as the router firewall running FreeBSD. The home server which serves files and applications is also FreeBSD. I'm making use of Jails and Vimage for different VLAN applications.

Yeah, but what do you do if that LTO4 tape drive breaks and you need to do a restore? Pay another $300 for another drive? Even though they are still working shape, they are used. You might get one or two uses out of it, then bam, sorry your fucked. VS HDD where you can just buy 3 3TB drives and have three offline copies of your data. The only thing then would be your backup software but that you can burn a copy for backup.

Same user. Same.

Thanks. I'm no stranger to it. I had to setup on a client once to authenticate against his eDirectory (yeah I know lol). I remember making a huge deal about complexity but in the end the default install pretty much covers everything and you just need to uncomment and set what you need. I just don't know if its still the best thing around.

8TB WD Whites

>listens to tcp ports and serves clients
>they're not servers you retard

forgot link
bestbuy.com/site/wd-easystore-8tb-external-usb-3-0-hard-drive-black/6110900.p?skuId=6110900

Anecdotal, but I have never had an LTO drive fail on me. I still have LTO1 drives from the late 90s early 2000s that work well. I can't say the same about hard drives though.

Word on the street is that they are making these unshuckable with new PCBs. I would be careful about relying on them as a continuous source of shuckable drives.

The thing about those WD Whites is that they use 3.3V for reset, you have to open the circuit by either cutting/blocking the pins or power cable.

I really doubt unshuckable drives will ever be ubiquitous or the cheapest available. They manufacture these things cheaply by riding on the economy of scale. They can't change too much from the standard HDD before it gets overly expensive to produce.

>Just take a knife to your backup drive!
>Thats way better than tapes!

Or just buy a $1 sata extension from ebay and cut the 3.3v cable on that.

Why, because as soon as it's named someone eventually gets super butthurt and ruins the entire thread via shitflinging and "i know you are but what am I?" playground style name-calling?

He's going to get super asspained and made a big post when he gets back replying to all of us who have been talking about him while he gone, I guarantee it. In fact I would be amazed if he had the self control to NOT reply

>Anyone else non/x86?

Yup, I've been running an Alphaserver DS10 for nearly a year. (SSH, SFTP, HTTPS, torrent, etc.)

Gotta keep my feet warm somehow...