Would the fountain of your mind were clear again, that I might water an ass at it.
Ryan Morris
If Verizon got caught throttling Netflix (so they could make more money) last year, imagine what they will do when it actually becomes legal.
Nicholas Thomas
Netflix has half a third of the library that Americans get here, so I would call it karma.
Jace Brooks
You will see the death of american on the internet. What a time to be alive
Caleb Barnes
>Conservatives are hell-bent on ruining the internet. This is what happens when you fuckers don't vote. Enjoy. >Only 4.99 a month* to enable the TV and media access pass! Unthrottled Netflix and Amazon Prime** >Only 4.99 a month* to enable to social media access pass. Facebook, Google+, Instagram (Sup Forums and Sup Forums not included). >And of course only 4.99 a month* extra to enable the adult streaming pass. >*On top of your current monthly bill. >**Torrenting traffic disabled on all plans I think you guys don't understand how markets work if you don't like it don't buy it and the company's will be forced to change remember your wallet holds all the power
Gavin Jackson
>You will see the death of american on the internet. No. You will only see the cleansing of the Internet of people who don't have jobs and live in poverty, mostly people of skin tone resembling excrement and people of mind filled with Communist ideas. The people who work and have jobs however, mainly white people, asian people, and some Latino people, will be unaffected by the meager and easily affordable additional plan subscriptions. It is not called the repeal of net neutrality, it is called the introduction of the Internet Hygiene Tax. The ignorants who call it the repeal of net neutrality for the most part don't have the literacy to read the very papers they constituting what they call "net neutrality".
Christian Wright
this, however the many people will still pay these companies either because they are rich and willing to pay extra, or are too stupid, old or both to know the difference
Justin Murphy
Get the fuck out of here nigger
David Cox
we need a real nigga like elon musk to start an ISP that respects net neutrality
Gavin Flores
First they try and take games
Now they try and take the internet/
Brandon Green
>This is what happens when you fuckers don't vote. Enjoy. Oh fuck off
Juan Morgan
So, do you have a job?
Easton Martin
I am so fucking tired of this meme Maybe if you kill yourself you can go back to when king nigger ran things
Owen Richardson
So with NN, how is any new site / service meant to start up? Will there be an "alternative" plan too?
Austin Smith
kek so this is racial cleansing of the american internet
Jacob White
there are barely any shows on netflix worth watching anyway, you pay for netflix when you want to watch stranger things, not seinfeld or whatever
Easton Campbell
Solid proof that only basement dwelling racists who put ideology before a free internet and corporate shills getting checks from Verizon, Comcast, and Ajit Pai have any reason to actually be against net neutrality.
Adam Morales
That's not how it works, because most of America's internet access is controlled by monopolies.
If we give Comcast and Verizon and Xfinity the power to discriminate based off on traffic the most you will get them from them is a "fuck you" while your calls get redirected to 13/hr customer support pajeets and the CEOs (who grew up in the 60s and don't even use the internet for more than e-mail) buy new houses and yachts.
Camden Rodriguez
Tell that to T-Mobile, ATT, Sprint, and Verizon with their "unlimited plans" that throttle all video traffic to 480p and throttle your general access speed down to nothing if you use too much data.
Tyler James
>le vote with your wallet meme doesn't work with monopolies, when the user group is too large for any coordinated group effort to be impossible (a few smart people will vote with their wallet but the dumb majority won't and thus it won't have any fucking effect), when the users don't have the time or energy left to spend on fixing the next stupid crap someone pushed on them and would rather/can only suck it up instead of spending a lot of time and energy on the proper solution, or when the alternatives add similar disadvantages to their services at the same time (collusion to synchronize reduction of service so that even if someone decided to look into alternatives there wouldn't be any worth the tradeoff so they'd just stick to what they have).
Conversative people like you think your theoretical utopian economic quick-quip rules like "muh supply and demand" are the only factor in real life situations. So naive and shortsighted.
Aaron Jenkins
>vote with your wallet This is like saying individual votes in a multi-million headcount society matter at all. I laugh every time someone says "you don't like your government? Vote for another party them and your problems will be gone, goy". It's fucking ridiculous and a paradoxal to say that if *you* vote for the solution you want, you'll get it. You fucking won't because you need millions of other people to do the same thing.
It was Nutlix that was caught throttling, plebbit.
sage goes in all fields
Dylan Perez
The other way around dumbfuck. Netflix was throttling themselves.
You didn't even read the "net neutrality" documents and the scam inside, which is to be expected from illiterate leftcucks.
Parker Adams
There's no need to type like a retard, though.
Zachary Robinson
Net neutrality makes it so that NO ONE can throttle based off of internet traffic, illiterate alt-right cuck.
Dominic Nelson
>net neutrality documents clearly state "reasonable network management." exception for throttling >DURR NET NEUTRALITY MAKES IT SO THAT NO ONE >calls others illiterate
Proof that leftards don't even read the very source material they shill. What a stupid child, probably dropped out of school like all niggers and lefty nu-males.
Juan Kelly
>le supply and demand conservatives xd Most American conservatives don't particularly desire a free market, considering a lot of them basically handed telecommunications companies an oligopoly and continue to support regualtory barriers to competition
Also your case with a vast majority of people being morons and a few being smart wouldn't really be much of a problem in a free market, where a "lightweight" competitor could emerge to serve that niche
Ethan Gomez
>corporations is bad and hold to much power xd Despite the fact that I agree with this sentiment >Let's take all the power from a few entities and give it ALL to ONE SINGLE MONOLITHIC ENTITY which already has its fingers in all my pies Doesn't sound like a good solution to this problem
Robert Reyes
Why is the issue so split between the parties anyway? It feels like a literal Democrat vs Republican thing. Are you telling me that there aren't ANY Democrats for the repeal? or ANY Republicans against it?
Matthew Smith
Pretty much. Net neutrality is basically being treated like a ball in a soccer match with both reddit and pol treating it simplistically with the social tact of a soccer riot. Reddit overly supporting it without having even read the net neutrality documents and the shitshow scam they are to the name itself, and pol being overly against it because they feel a doom scenario will lead to change more easily than trying to fix the existing shitshow articles in the net neutrality documentation which is at least some form of basis.
Nathan Taylor
The truth hurts, huh?
Wyatt Ortiz
>$15/month is the end of the internet You have to be 18 to post on Sup Forums. Maybe if you ask mom really nicely she'll let you get the TV subscription.
Adam Bennett
Conservatives have already ruined the Internet, culturally anyway.
They're now focused on ruining higher education.
Joseph Butler
Good maybe we can all go back outside
James Campbell
reminder that this is just a petty power struggle between websites and ISPs, and every website just wants to skirt an ISP tax that they should be paying
Jordan Sullivan
>They're now focused on ruining higher education.
Conservatives aren't the ones who coined the insult "Biological Essentialist". That comes from your side of the cesspool.
Gabriel Green
>Hosting servers costs money. >Laying down telecom cables costs money. >Data runs on infrastructure that costs money. >ISP's want to charge online service providers fees for using an exorbitant amount of data. >Reddit fags cry because muh net neutrality.
Chase Butler
>I want corporations to have the power to fuck me harder than they already are
Spoken like a true cuck
Dylan James
>Laying down telecom cables costs money. >Data runs on infrastructure that costs money.
So much of this was paid for by tax payer money via the 1996 Telecommunications Act. ISPs also spent a lot of the money on coke and hookers, resulting in the US having some of the lowest broadband speeds of any first world country.
Robert Hughes
In Burgaristan, there is usually only one ISP per location. The one you have sucks? Well, sucks for you! IT'S PAYDAY, GOYIM!
Jacob Bennett
Why are you still talking illiterate? Ah well, it doesn't matter, I won't be hearing from you anymore soon because you won't be able to afford it. Bye bye jobless garbage :3
Austin Garcia
They already charge me AND Netflix though.
Andrew Richardson
>admitting defeat
I accept your surrender
Eli Brooks
Yeah the internet sucked before net neutrality in 2015, sike.
Carter Diaz
reminder citizens united rendered the voting populace irrelevant in 2010.
Legislation is now nothing but a spending war between corporate oligarchs.
As far as network neutrality goes, the number of corporate entities that require neutral internet to exist at all means the internet will always be neutral. As that particular issue is a spending war between entities with everything to lose and entities who just want to gain a little more.
Juan Rogers
>conservatives ruined the internet culturally Oh yeah fuck those sjw conservatives with all their gender fuckery and echo chambers against basic reasoning and literal scientific examples
Leo Baker
>implying that US taxpayer money that paid for the literal laying down of cables didn't go 80% towards finding a way to spy on the citizens, 15% in abusive spending and 5% in the actual work, 50% of which was bribing construction unions
Hunter Hernandez
If they hadn't been validated via response, they would've faded away just like they always had before, as they aren't a new thing. they've been around since the 80s. They were controlled by the fact the only response they'd get in the real world was "... okay, moving on"
I'm thinking the people who come here to make thread #3942 about this probably don't actually visit this site regularly. Can we just ignore them?
Blake Cooper
To the anti-NN shills here, how is NN currently bad for the average consumer, that is so bad it needs to be repealed?
Noah Kelly
wtf i'm against net neutrality now
Parker Butler
It's such sweet karma though. Sure all the paid shills will stay, but the typical Sup Forums cancer, the 80 IQ foot soldier that cannot stop sucking trump's dick will finally be gone. They can't afford this shit and neither can their parents.
Camden Brown
Whatever you nugget as if I use those sites anyway. I'll still be able to shitpost on the chans and pirate all my media so what's the big deal?
Jaxon Peterson
wtf my heart's bleeding for multi-billion dollar regional monopolies now
Bentley Young
I have some questions:
>Are any corporations AND/OR telecom companies, content providers and ISPs promoting net neutrality? >If so, which ones? >Of those, what is in it for them? >Of those, particularly board members, how many were involved in developing internet infrastructure in municipalities? >Is it true that companies like Comcast have bought out smaller ISPs?
Thanks.
Alexander Barnes
NN in action.
Parker Williams
>implying it's just subscription fees that will keep Americans away
You realize that ISPs will block your hate speech websites, Sup Forums included, right?
Grayson Parker
See
Adrian Jones
what the actual fuck has the admittedly dumb actions of cloudflare in banning DS got to do with Net Neutrality, a legislation protecting consumers from the worst predatory aspects of their ISPs? Cloudflare is not an ISP, accordingly, both they and their decisions are not affected by NN in the slightest. Why are you then quoting this here, although it has no relevance whatsoever? Could it be, that you have no actual answer to the question you purport to be replying to, namely: >So again, how is NN bad for consumers?
Nathan Jackson
ISPs were already blocking shit for political/censure reasons, net neutrality was never stopping that. NN is a red herring.
Liam Smith
Don't let the liberal media tell you how to think. Net neutrality only benefits the kike government.
Ryan Cox
>mfw NN is repealed and different regulations closer to pre 2015 are put in place >mfw Sup Forums will look retarded as fuck with its fear mongering
Dominic Nguyen
>ISPs were already blocking shit for political/censure reasons example? they've either had a court order ordering them to (torrent sites) or been pulled up for doing so (as illegal under NN doctrine). NN is not 'a red hering' - remove that and ISPs literally can ban whatever and whomever they like, if Title II is removed, arguably, theyd be forced to. Only Comcast Approved Internetâ„¢ available here, goyim. you appear to have forgotten the question, shill: >So again, how is NN bad for consumers?
Juan Price
Net Neutrality didn't exist before 2015 I remember having to pay $20 just to connect to Sup Forums. Reddit was another $30.
Tough times my fellow Bernie Bros.
Isaiah Reyes
I just hope for global destruction of the Internet it brings more bad than good you know all the gender stuff going on today? that won't be around if the Internet wasn't around The Internet takes those who have bad ideas and give them a space for people with similar bad ideas to flourish Not saying that you need the Internet for that to happen but it definitely spreads a lot quicker
Jace Rodriguez
yeah, limit the number of 'channels' again, and make sure, no 'harmful' content - like cable TV, back in the good old days. That'll be better for everyone. Wont it? Maybe even throw in a bit of soft porn ($19.99 extra, terms and conditions apply)
Austin Carter
Yeah, I remember having to pay $19.99 extra, terms and conditions apply to access websites before 2015.
That's how the world worked before Net Neutrality.
Alexander Gutierrez
>So again, how is NN bad for consumers? Well like, it's bad for companies, and obviously corporate interests are the same as personal interests.
Jeremiah Howard
an answer! finally! kudos, at least you tried user.
Elijah Russell
So you're saying I can cut my bill in half by only paying for what I use? Gee wilikers, why didn't we do this sooner?
Hudson Powell
>it’s illegal!
Not when they have the power to deny access, thereby effectively censoring content.
Jaxson Martin
>So again, how is NN bad for consumers? NN gives full control of the internet to the Government (DONALD DRUMPF) and his NSA goons.
John Jones
Who cares I got 20 years of a good life. At 40 I'm ending it so the world can do whatever.
Henry Taylor
Don't you worry your pretty Tumblr head sweetie, the pendulum will inevitably swing back in the other direction, taking another slice out of our necks.
Then you'll all be on here jizzing in your godamned pants about how the top few market players completely control the regulatory bodies and have made us all captive to their agenda.
Because that's how regulatory bodies work - they are reliably staffed by "experts" with "experience" - experience working for big players with a lot to gain by giving the government the power to decide what "neutral" is.
Jeremiah Kelly
>Sup Forums think internet is limited to few .com sites
I dont see in OP picture about .org and .gov sites
David Taylor
R*ddit made the image.
Carson Jones
>policy decisions to regulate the market should be decided based on how I'll be affected as an individual consumer
Gavin Martin
>cut my bill in half by only paying for what I use YES user, that s the spirit! So again, how is NN bad for consumers?
Luke Nelson
>guys, if you don't like the service from ma bell then just don't buy it ;^)
Henry Davis
>retarded trump Reddit exposed
NN makes the internet be regulated like a public utility by the FCC. ISPs block access all the time by limiting your data bandwidth if you spend to much or pirate things.
Lincoln Miller
>NN makes the internet be regulated like a public utility by the FCC which prevents private quasi-monopolistic ISPs censoring what you can and cant see, in favor of their own commercial interests, yes. This is why Title II was introduced, stop telcos fucking people over. I'm interested why, you think this is A Bad Thing? Are you Comcast, by any chance? >So again, how is NN bad for consumers?
Jonathan Morris
You can disable "optimization" on T-mobile. T-mobile and Verizon, possibly the other two, only throttle you when you're on a high-traffic tower or in a high-traffic region (almost the same thing). That is, when you're using a tower a bunch of other people are also using people who've already used a lot of data get deprioritized.
Also, the mobile ISPs are the only ones actually competing with each other...
Adam Miller
Is msnbc thinking about buying Sup Forums? How would net neutrality prevent that?
Jaxson Anderson
>only paying for what I use already a thing. it's called data usage rate
what they want to do is pay you arbitrarily based on what the data is, not how much you use. Watching 5 GB of porn isn't any different than watching 5 GB of youtube or 5 GB of facebook videos. It's the same amount of data, yet they want to charge you a shit ton more to have access to all of those things, so you won't be able to use your 5 GB however you choose anymore. Nothing about it is more economically efficient. It's just a method to split up the market for price discrimination
Samuel White
This
Juan Parker
>private quasi-monopolistic ISPs censoring what you can and cant see Something they've never done in any country? Giving the government control to do exactly this is somehow better?
>stop telcos fucking people over. Nobody talked about this shit as much as this faggy NN shit.
>Are you Comcast, by any chance? Are you the NSA by any chance? Or perhaps Googe/Netflix/Reddit/Soros since they seem to REALLY like NN.
Brayden Flores
No sites are going to be blocked and internet is not going to get more expensive, stop falling for the Reddit hype train.
Hunter Jackson
>ISPs block access all the time by limiting your data bandwidth if you spend to much or pirate things. It's in their ToS that they'll throttle you if you use your connection excessively. ISPs don't have the capacity to actually give everyone the service they pay for, so they put in these clauses as a way out of investing in infrastructure. NN is what has prevented ISPs from flat-out throttling your connection even if you're a modest user. Repeal of NN will mean the ISP no longer needs such an excuse to throttle your traffic - it can do it and it can ask for more money from you to prevent it. There will be nobody you can send your complaints to because they got rid of the ombudsman.
Jason Howard
#ImWithHer #NotMyPresident BERNBROS UNITE!
Adam Flores
Windows Phone doesn't have this problem. :^)
Jose Jackson
FOAD and take this stupid thread with ya
Ian Myers
>Repeal of NN will mean Things go back to the way they were before 2015. Are you saying they did all those things before 2015?
How come nobody else remebers being randomly throttled and offered to pay more? Sounds like you're completely full of shit and also a lair.
Brody Miller
Net Neutrality prevents ISPs blocking (or promoting, or making faster or slower, etc) certain sites in favor of their own commercial interests, or payment, or because they think it may cause them problems. This wouldn't be an issue where ISPs simply were ISPs - where they also own TV Cos (msnbc) shitty internet cos (Buzzfeed), cable stations, etc. - as Comcast do. - all of these things are potential clashes of interest. NN prevents them from promoting or censoring sites, nominally. If NN was dismantled, as Comcast want, they wouldnt need to buy Sup Forums - they could simply make it disappear. Entirely legally. That was my point.
>If NN was dismantled, as Comcast want, they wouldnt need to buy Sup Forums - they could simply make it disappear. So before 2015, when NN didn't exist yet. Comcast was making websites disappear? Which ones? How come nobody has ever heard about this?