If you want help: >State the budget & CURRENCY for your build >List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)
CPUs: >NO i5 7500/7600K or i7 7700/K. THEY ARE DEFUNCT AND SUPERSEDED BY COFFEE LAKE >G4560/G4600 for non-gaming (light tasks) or bare minimum gaming builds with a dedicated graphics card >R3 1200 - Budget builds (best with OC + fast RAM) >R5 1600 / i5 8400 - Great gaming or multithreaded use CPUs >R7 / Used Xeon / Threadripper / i7 - Heavy Multi-Tasking / VM Work / Mixed use
RAM: >Current CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3000-3200 MHz is ideal >Before buying RAM for Ryzen, check your Mobo's QVL or look for user reports
Graphics cards: >Consider Vega 56 for a Freesync monitor >Crypto-Currency miners have driven GPU prices up (particularly Radeon) 1080p >GTX 1050Ti and 3GB 1060 are the only reasonably priced cards; 6GB 1060 or 4GB 580 if you want to overpay a little >GTX 1070 if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 1440p >GTX 1070/Ti and 1080 are standard choices; currently overpriced >GTX 1080Ti if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 2160p (4K) >GTX 1080Ti
General: >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING >A 240GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor
When are DDR5 kits expected to hit markets? I'm looking forward to drop serious dosh on a new system, and would hate to find myself on a sinking ship labeled DDR4 ... particularly with AMD making suspicious claims like the current socket/chipset being compatible with Zen+ and 2, while barely any of the boards released even come with specs fit for the higher end of current DDR4 speeds.
Josiah Sanchez
Does the case have any compatibility things I should be aware of when picking one, or can I just get one that looks cool?
Brayden Thompson
When will Nvidia release consumer/gaming Voltas? I can't wait anymore
Easton Wright
>Before buying RAM for Ryzen, check your Mobo's QVL or look for user reports help? I need new sticks, honestly don't know what that means
somewhere on your motherboard's webpage there'll be a link to the QVL aka qualified vendor list that's ram guaranteed to work with the motherboard
Thomas Kelly
this is distressing, you can't just trust the compatibility check on pcpartpicker? Also I've never understood how to pick ram. Are there brands to dodge?
Jose Reed
Fish tank
Hudson Hill
pcpartpicker doesn't check that deep there are other ram sticks that will work that aren't on the QVL, you'll have to dig through forums or look at completed builds to figure that out i would say big brands are g.skill, corsair with smaller brands kingston, geil, crucial, mushkin if anything looks weird, check out reviews across sites
Camden Gutierrez
Is this a meme?
Brandon Miller
> case $238.00 > 450W Gold PSU $95.00
You can get a 750 watt gold PSU for that price, certainly nothing less than a Seasonic Gold 650.
$238.00 for a case? Fucking kill yourself.
Nathan James
I'm also stuck with this. My system won't post because I have some Patriot RAM stick that doesn't appear on my mobo or Ryzen QVA of supported RAM
I mean, THAT is the problem, right? My motherboard is ASUS a320m-k, and the CPU compatibility says it supports my Ryzen 1400 right from the first firmware. Mobo and CPU are new... I ordered the Adata XPG Flame, which DOES appear in both the board QVL and AMD Ryzen QVL
Is RAM compatibility really that strict in Ryzen? I'm really scared that I got a defective CPU. System just turns on and stays on, but doesn't post.
Grayson Ward
Get faster ram, it changes a lot on ryzen builds, also dont forget to update your bios , the rest is okay
Also, an SSD is not "storage." It's your boot & applications drive. A hard drive is for storage.
> G.Skill - Trident Z 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2800 Memory $249.00
Should be closer to $160-$180. And, it should also be 3000 or 3200 MHz. You're wasting your time & money putting anything slower on a Ryzen build.
Aaron Brooks
Onahole. Only answer. Plenty of room to install webcam right next to it.
Jose Evans
and what about speed? just another thing I don't remember at all from my first build like are you stupid for getting anything less than 3200?
Evan Murphy
ram speed is a huge meme, you really won't notice the difference. 3200 is more diminish returns. Just go with a 2400mhz stick
Samuel Campbell
Probably 2019, with mainstream CPUs with DDR5 support coming in 2020 or 2021.
Joshua Martinez
Which manufacturer has the best GTX1060 6GB model, price/performance-wise? I really don't know which one to pick
Tyler Williams
>Is RAM compatibility really that strict in Ryzen? No. The system should post with any compatible RAM. Not being on the QVL just means there are no guarantees that it'll run above 2133MHz.
Josiah Jackson
Palit
William Barnes
The PC will be in the lounge seen by a a lot people so the case has to look good.
I should have mentioned I'm in Australia and our prices normally alot higher than yours not even including the exchange rate. I'll take your advice and upgrade to the seasonic gold 650 $150.
Charles James
no, but it's fucking expensive as FUCK
my friend has one and it's fucking niiiice but idk if it's worth the price
Henry Smith
>Is RAM compatibility really that strict in Ryzen? no, that's outdated info you can buy any ram and it'll run at its rated speed if your mobo is updated QVL is just so lacking because they have better things to do than to test literally EVERY RAM KIT in existence
Jacob Bell
Sorry bro I should have said I was in Australia the ssd you mentions is closer to $300 here. Still think I should try and find a better one or stick with the one I picked out?
For the memory would g.skill trident z 16g ddr4-3200 $315 be a better choice?
Logan Long
I did the mistake to try and update bios from the windows tool. And now my asos prime b350 is bricked. Please help. Tried to put a fat32 flash with a r renamed bios, but the crash free doesn't run. Tried removing all hdd/ssds and leaving just one ram stick, but nothing works. It just powers on and no beeps or video output.
Samuel Thompson
The bios are software on the motherboard? Do I need to update these due to the motherboard being older? Sorry I'm somewhat new to this.
Ryder Reed
I just bought a new z370 mobo with a coffee lake i5. The hard drive I want to use it with runs windows 7 and my old PC - from where the hard drive came from - doesn't work anymore. I only have a laptop on me. Is there a way I can update that hard drive to windows 10? Or can I still boot the hard drive with my new build?
Gabriel Wright
Its fucking impossible to find 2x4's if a number in the part number is like a 4 instead of an 8 or something like that, is it ok? Because I think the list asrock is providing me with is just going from the ONE stick model number, where the same stick sold in like a 2 or 4 pack has a different model number. Does that make sense?
Gabriel Price
Each ram stick has its own unique number model. Even if it's the same stick, but 4 or 8 gb. Model numbers will be different Usually the model number will include frequency (2133-2400-2600) etc and 4G/8G etc.
Hudson Hughes
see
Luis Long
If I have a 1080p 60hz monitor and want a gpu for somewhere around 2 years, should I take rx580 for $250 or vega 64 for $500? I want high settings. Would it be wise to buy rx580 and switch it to aftermarket vega in 3 months or so?
Jaxon Adams
A 580 should be enough to run almost everything for at least the next couple years at max or near max.
John Watson
If I get the minimum build from OP should I get the recommended 1080p monitor or something else (cheaper) ?
James Morgan
How much longer will my 970 last before I should consider upgrading?
Ryan Reed
>3.5GB
Memes aside, I'd probably wait until next gen cards come out.
Joseph Gonzalez
Britbong here, anyone spotted any good deals on GPUs? Unfortunately i was too busy at work and too tired yesterday to look properly. So i might have missed something.
So far i've found a Zotac 1070 mini for £350, MSI 1070 for £375 and MSI 1070 Ti for £420. Leaning towards the Zotac, but i'm just worried the small cooler will be loud/inefficient
Christian Bell
Does 80+bronze damage your computer? I heard some stoner tell me this once
Xavier Harris
Please help.
Daniel Baker
No
Elijah Ward
No, that's retarded. All power supplies are inefficient, and that's only a designated area on the spectrum.
Connor Richardson
im upgrading my pc, replacing mobo, cpu and gpu. im keeping the ssd though and i wonder, since i know you dont format an ssd. so do i just replace the parts and boot it with an OS installation disk inside the cdmechanic? will windows just reinstall and replace the ssd content?
Elijah Jones
second hand 1080p 60hz for like 20$
Jaxon Ward
So I was gonna upgrade my PC to a Ryzen but apparently the Jews now own memory manufacturers.
Ayden Cruz
there is the PowerColor RED DRAGON Radeon RX 570 for 181 pounds on newegg dunno if the deal is good or not
Brody Wilson
Going away on business and the battle station needs to stay at home. Any of you have some good luck with certain laptop brands for general stuff and light gaming? I can't trust these PC magazines
Asher Reyes
I was thinking of increasing the RAM and maybe get an SSD or another Hard drive any thoughts /pcbg/
William Brown
Newegg are in the UK now?
Cameron Lewis
what games are you planning on playing? if it's stuff like Europa, prison architect and 3 year old games or more any laptop with decent ram and CPU should be fine
Meh, shipping is £28, not worth it. Especially if i have to return anything.
Nathaniel Gomez
Enjoy your goy-sync tax.
David Price
I want to keep my AMD Phenom II X4 965 alive and running but my other hardware is falling behind What is my best route to taking this guy into the next 5 or so years?
Jose Collins
also i guess i'm a sucker for a decent display too
Gabriel Gonzalez
Whats the rest of the system and what do you plan to use it for?
Elijah Watson
That thing is like $20 If your other hardware is failing then it isn't worth it at all to keep the system
Camden Long
How good of a PC can I build with a budget of 557$ I will most likely spend extra for someone to build it for me
Wyatt Reed
pcpartpicker.com/list/pqTNRG just watch a couple of videos on building pc's, its not hard at all and its actually pretty fun im sure someone can make a nicer build with that budget so wait for more opinions later
Some kid keeps telling me that this is what he is getting for Christmas. This isn't advice or anything of the sort. Just thought you all would enjoy a laugh. Goodnight, Sup Forums.
Jackson Bailey
Is it a good idea to buy gtx1080 now? How long will it last? Can I sit through amper with it?
Andrew Cox
>spending more than 100$ on a motherboard >spending more than 100$ on a case >spending on a 525gb SSD instead of a 252gb SSD and a backup hard drive >buying a GTX 1070 this late >garbage overpriced 450W power supply >investing on a 1080p 60hz monitor in 2017 >spending 250$ for two 2800 RAM sticks Is this bait
Brayden Perez
GTX 1080 Ti gives you much more bang for your buck. I'd get a GTX 1080 Ti just for the extra future proof at 1440p
GTX 1080 just feels like it's going to be garbage in a few year, a bad middleman when it comes to price performance
Jaxon Thomas
Any advice for this build? It'll be a couple of months before I start. Yes, I'll be rendering in 1440p.
Also I think I CAN save money somewhere in this build.
How much does it cost for the things I need to build it I don't mind spending more because it might be a good investment if I ever need to upgrade
Leo Powell
How good of a PC can I build with a budget of $2000 I will most likely spend extra for someone to build it for me
Justin Hill
Don't copy me you fucking faggot
Nathaniel Nelson
fuck you
Nolan Gray
but i need an answer
Austin Morgan
>my other hardware is falling behind
This portion of your post needs to be a good bit more descriptive.
Which hardware can you keep? Which is failing? And how? Also, what do you want to use the system for?
A 965 actually has a lot to offer. I have one and it just won't die. Magnificent little beast that's been chugging along at 4.0 GHz for nearly 8 years.
>That thing is like $20
Nope. Refurbs are $60-ish and up, pulls start around $40. Found a new, sealed boxed one, was $85. And, they are worth it. Compared to an FX 4350, the 965 still beats it or matches it on everything important. It's better at single thread than the 4350. I shopped heavily to "upgrade" my 965 to a 4350, and realized it was a waste of money to actually step down slightly. I'd need an FX 6350 to clearly outperform a 965, and the 965 still matches a 6350 (even beats it) in single thread.
There's a lot of reasons to love a 965. And, only fools are tossing them or selling them off cheap.
Connor Harris
I don't have extra $200 for ti in my budget. Choosing between 580 and 1080. What about vega? Isn't it a little better than 1080?
Ryan Bailey
16GB 2800Mhz for a Ryzen 1800x? Got an offer for the same price as 2666.
Nathaniel Morales
Type it out differently
Jayden Torres
Avoid vega lol, garbage.
David Fisher
The reviews I saw put it between 1080 and 1080 ti.
John Thomas
Certainly 2800 MHz or better is what you want. Ideally 3000+. Faster is better. MUCH better for Ryzen; they really use the extra speed. Gimping an 1800x with slow RAM is counterproductive to your investment in an 1800x. I'm helping my nephew build a system. We got him a 1700x and 3400 MHz RAM. Went with 2 x 4 GB kit and used the money saved over a 16 GB kit plus crazy low price on the 1700x to invest in fast RAM.
Other factors are the brand, is it compatible with your mobo? What are the timings? If the timings are garbage you're taking an additional performance demerit on your premium 1800x.
Wyatt Clark
guys please help
Benjamin Torres
16gb 3200 for 1800x or wait?
32gb 3200 isn't on any QVL yet for crosshair or taichi. Unless someone has a good reccomendation for a non QVL 32 3200.
Still not sure whether i want to fall for the 16 GB meme.
Gabriel Stewart
So the opinions here are AMD is trash and overpriced and Nvidia is virtually end of line and new cards are on the horizon.
What should i do? I've been waiting since summer to do a build when the pricing of GPUs took me by surprise.
Ryan Thomas
Hello Sup Forums. My computer is really getting out of shape, is uk.pcpartpicker.com/guide/KyTwrH/magnificent-amd-gaming-build a good meme guide? Something in this price range, plus nez monitor. What's a good monitor to take advantage of it then? Should I wait for the new generation and/or a drop in memecoin mining?
what if I want to make a programming/productivity PC ? What do I need?
Adam Morgan
Not much.
Bentley Evans
What did you get? CL14 or 16?
Gavin Thompson
How can I find out without physically having the parts in front of me and trying to fit them, if for a given mobo, CPU fan, and set of RAM, if the CPU fan might block off some of the RAM slots? Apparently the Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO can block off some slots with certain mobo's and with ram of a certain height, and looking at photos of builds of the mobo (Z170 PRO GAMING/AURA) I have with that cooler, it looks like one of the RAM slots might be blocked off, but it's hard to tell for sure: pcpartpicker.com/builds/by_part/8rvZxr#h=3
Does anybody have a suggestion of a good, relatively cheap (30$-40$ ideally) CPU fan that's as good as that one but takes up less space so I can be sure all 4 RAM slots are open? Are vertically mounted/low profile coolers not reccomended? These days most of the coolers people seem to buy seem to be counter horizontally from the CPU instead.
Robert Edwards
can I just make a ryzen 5 1600 build without a GPU ? Can I just get a 1440p/4k monitor with it ? I grew apart from vidya and just wanna code and watch youtube
Elijah Rivera
get 1600 drop cooler get a cheaper mobo get 850 evo if prices are close (10-15 good boy points) get 1/2/4 tb drive instead of 3 depending on your needs don't get a blower card remove the case and do your own research on what case you want. You might come to the decision that's the case you want, but then atleast you don't fall for the "it has good ratings so it'll be good for me!" meme
Easton Wright
Hi Sup Forums, I edit 4k vídeo with Premiere Pro. Choosing between these two PCs:
