Why is Sup Forums so full of unironical corporate worshippers all of a sudden?
There are actual corporate cucks in here who will unironically defend capitalism and take reactionary stances.
I can only hope those are but shills paid by ISPs and other big corps...
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Hello leddit, I know you’re not used to different opinions in your heavily moderated echo chamber, but you have to understand there is free speech here.
Also can you Americans stop shitting up the board with this NN crap?
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we have so many fucking threads about this. I don't give a flying fuck which side you're on, but stick to the existing threads
There's nothing wrong with capitalism, you just have been taught so all your life
>everyone but Americans is sick and tired if their Sup Forums tier threads
>tell them to fuck off back to Sup Forums
>hurr durr why are you sucking off corporations
Fuck off faggot nobody fucking care if you pick slavery B or slavery A option just fucking stop, or keep making these threads and wonder why everybody is against you fucking cunt.
>doesn't realize capitalism is individualist
>doesn't realize individualism is about freeing people
Hey, OP.
I've been trying to look for a pattern here, and most of these replies are almost identical to those on the other threads.
I hope this makes you think about it for a moment and clears up a bit of a view.
Most of us have tech / finance jobs so...
It means we are so sick of you Amerisharts we can’t even be fucked to come up with any original replies anymore.
That all you mutts are worth now.
A copy paste.
Now take your 52% ass to the nearest well and throw yourself down it. You fucking gargantuan Amerilard mass should ensure you become nothing more than a puddle of bones and tissue at the bottom.
Fuck NN and fuck Americunts
>t. Texas citizen
There is already of problems with the first set of sentences.
But, I am actually curious to how you think, just explain you point of view to me?
literally to gay to go on Sup Forums so you cancer up some other place
ironic considering all these nn threads belong on Sup Forums and not Sup Forums
>durrrr muh evil capitulism
>derrrr if you're not a socialist you worship corporations
>hurrr hurrr hurrr the government will fix it
>lol you sheeple! you don't even have original replies to my thoughtful and original post
>amerimutts! amerifats! murisharts! i hate america omg!
The absolute state of Swedem, ladies and gentlemen.
Several things wrong with your post
1: I’m a centre-right Libertarian
2: I’m not from Sweden. Contrary to Amerishart popular belief, Sweden is not the only nor the largest European country.
3: I have not passed any particular argument for or against Net Neutrality. So you have formulated your own little fantasy with no prior information, made a bunch of assumptions and then proceeded to make a nonsensical post based on the whims of faeries and pixie dust.
There are reasons why we mock you Muricunts. Your post reiterates most of them.
>not being an enlightened alt-centrist
Enjoy being a brainlet
So Reddit, if NN is a bandaid, why dont you take it off and actually treat the wound?
well i was looking for a job in Venezuela but im still waiting on a call.
Yeah why don't overthrow the US government and install a better one without Jewish influence?
>Why is Sup Forums so full of unironical corporate worshippers all of a sudden?
Sup Forums has been filled with big corp SHILLS since a long time, OP. There are active Microsoft, Apple, Nvidia and Intel SHILLS in Sup Forums as I write this.
leftists and statists are walking on thin fucking ice, remember who has the weapons
Nvidia doesn't need shills because their products are objectively better than their competition
The only proof of shills has been a Samsung shill called Sergey posting anti-Apple propaganda.
Unless you have evidence for the rest , you can simmer down.
>doesn't realize capitalism is individualist
Where being part of the "in group" gets you a mountain of benefits.
>doesn't realize individualism is about freeing people
Look, we freed all these people queuing up outside our store. They're not slaves to our brands at all.
The government?
>inb4 I can fight killer drones with my "assault" rifle
>So you have formulated your own little fantasy with no prior information
You mean the way you're formulating your own little fantasy about American corporate worshippers? Swedish leftists really do have extremely low levels of self-awareness.
Fuck off back to R*ddit, commie. Net neutrality means the government can have control over the internet. People who are smart should have control of the ISPs. Politicians are just pandering fucks without any actual knowledge while CEOs are the brains at the top of companies, controlling every miniscule thing about the company. Let the smart people control, not the pandering.
Except there had been a literal Nvidia sales rep working here last year or so.
Oh there is one literal verizon sales rep that works in Sup Forums.
Who would've thought.
I like how you're walking on a thin line, not being sure who you're trying to mock.
Because they don't want to be force fed lies about so called "Net neutrality" by corporate shills supporting the content providers who censor people off their platforms.
Communism != Authoritarianism, stupid cocksucker. Learn to user your brain before pretending to know the first thing about political science because you heard it from Sup Forums
This is an agitprop poorly written by a shill who works for Facebook or Netflix
>FCC responsible for regulation, can't enact laws but can only propose legislation to government
>Cut out the FCC
>Government can do what the fuck it wants without middle man interfering
You played that one well.
Communism requires authoritarianism considering unlimited supply is impossible.
>FCC is the government's tool for interfering in communications
>Cut out the FCC
>Government can no longer control communications
>Communism != Authoritarianism
>muh not true Communism
I like how stupid kids think they know Communism better than the very people who invented it and then pioneered it, all of which down to Stallin and Mao are a thousand times more intelligent than the stupid child.
The arrogance and stupidity required is amusing.
There's what you say, and then there's what you do.
Communism also claims to be all about equality, yet we all know what happens under it...
Woah blown the fuck out with a stupid meme created by literal who.
Ever heard the term anarcho-communism?
I guess not. Because stupid brainlets like you never do any kind of research. Get the fuck out and grab a fucking book instead of gaining your "knowledge" from facebook memes.
>Stalin was an authoritarian so communism is inherently authoritarianism.
The amount of cringe!
Everyone can be in the "in group" in a properly maintained capitalist society assuming they're smart enough and motivated enough.
fuck off to reddit
capitalism is the power of the free people
because of their power as consumers people can band together for mutual causes and wreak havoc with their wallets
if people weren't fucking retards we wouldn't have these issues
stop conflating corporatism with capitalism
capitalism objectively gives the people more power over their own work than socialism
Ha! I like capitalism too. I wonder why 4gag hates it so much.
>stop conflating corporatism with capitalism
There is no such thing as "corporatism" defined in political science. Stop making stupid shit up.
Pretty much everyone worshipped by Sup Forums is a socialist. From Richard Stallman to Garry Kasparov (who lived under communism, mind you), to even guys like Steve Jobs and Bill Gates: pretty much everybody whose opinion matters is a socialist. Don't mind me if I'd rather follow them than some random anonymous know-it-alls from an online Japanese cartoon imageboard.
Ah yes. Anarcho communism. The entirely unsustainable system that eventually gets driven into either feudalism or anarcho primitivism. Let me give you a story on why anarcho communism also won't work without an unlimited supply of everything (hopefully it's properly cropped)
>Stalin figured out Communism doesn't work, so he had to compensate
>alone with every other Communist in history that saw Communism banned in more than half the countries on this planet now
>I-I-I-I KNOW BETTER THAN STALLIN ON HOW TO DO COMMUNISM
>I SWEAR
What a retarded child full of itself.
Ignoring even the fact that Nazism was born out of Communism, because lo and behold Communism is so shit it pulls people towards nationalism in every case on this planet that can even be seen today; Communism is a virus. A virus spreads, the immune system recognizes it as cancerous turd, the immune system starts to fight it, the immune system ejects it and bans it by establishing antibodies after a destructive war to the host.
Funny, if not for the stupidity and death Communism causes.
>Implying leftist memes are better
i really hope i don't have to fight against a technologically superior enemy on my home turf using nothing but my wits, simple arms and guerilla warfare
this seems like a bad example because if they all worked hard they would have received good grades
effort = reward
>anarcho-communism
Now sit and think. Imagine people voluntarily share what they work hard for.
Imagine you work 9 to 5 job, give most of to me who shitpost all day. No, government cant force me to work because I'm free man.
You need some kind of delusion to think that shits can work.
what is dictatorship of the proletariat
also stalin was the only good thing on the soviet union
You can literally create your own "in group" in a capitalist society. The problem is all the red tape and regulations make it a significant chore to even bother.
>inb4 "but muh regulations are needed to control the (((evil))) companies"
>complaining about not being part of "in groups" while LITTERALLY advocating the exclusion of people from "in groups"
it works in completely homogenous groups, doesn't work for diverse groups like Slab "US welfare utopia" City
so it only works if literally everyone is a farmer
You better hope not. US had 12:1 kill ratio in Vietnam.
yep
anarcho amish state time boy lmao
I'm not debating whether anarcho-communism is a feasible system or not. (Communism is a historical failure as well.) I'm teaching you that authoritarianism is not communism. It's a different political identity.
Libertarian Authoritarian
Right Left
Conservative Socialist
Capitalist Communist
etc
These are different political spectrum and points of identity.
1. Stalin did not invent communism
2. Mao didn't either
3. Authoritarianism and Communism are different political identities. See above.
And yes, I know better because I FUCKING STUDIED THESE UNLIKE YOU. Fuck off if you can't present me with an argument against long established rules of political science.
True Communism is Communism that doesn't work or Communism that isn't Communism.
China has learned by tearing down half the ideas of Communism and adopting from other ideologies and even infusing Capitalism into their system.
Cuba had to strip all the identity politics crap and then some to somewhat function.
Even Yugoslavia took from Western society after Tito fell out with Stalin.
>Right Left
That was a story about how ancom doesn't work because people are different. Some are lazy and some work really hard. When you sum all the work together, the hard workers realise this. The hard workers are the smartest, you see, and they understand what is going on. Society around them is lazy and it's of no profit to them to work either. So they become lazy too.
you forgot how military desertion, logistical clusterfucking of the economy, and chimpouts in the city will end up
Wow nice butthurt, looks like brainwashed russian/commie bastard escaped from his Gulag in order to condemn a free nation.
btfo xDD
You can stop pulling things out of your ass anytime amerilard.
>1. Stalin did not invent communism
He practiced it, and learned it was shit.
>2. Mao didn't either
He practiced it, and it turned out shit.
>Authoritarianism and Communism are different political identities.
They aren't. Authoritarianism is fixing problems that Communism inherently has.
>And yes, I know better because I FUCKING STUDIED THESE UNLIKE YOU.
Compared to Stallin and Mao, you not only didn't study it, you didn't even put it into practice.
A stupid child says he knows Communism better than the founders and pioneers applying it for decades.
The difference is that you are a dumbfuck who only ever knew Communism by the bible,
while all Communist leaders are people who actually put it into practice for half a century and realizes it was absolute dog shit.
The arrogance and stupidity you possess is astounding.
You are basically saying you know cars better than the engineers that made them because you studied magazines.
What a fucking comedian, and child.
Authoritarianism isn't communism but communism inadvertently becomes authoritarian purely out of necessity.
It will never work. Plain and simple. Most people won't ever share their money with family.
Now think, you give all of your salary to your mom, she then will share it fairly among her kids. You just happen to have highest salary among them, your youngest sister is Sup Forumsivian tier who never come out of her room but keep buying shits.
Do you truly happy that way? I'm not blaming you if you happy. Hey, as long as you happy. I won't.
>Keeps buying shits
hot
>America
>free
CRINGE
Funny how you liked Russia and Putin when he was helping Drumpf isn’t it?
The result? American retreat, fall of south vietnam, communist victory, socialist vietnam proclaimed.
Why do you keep saying Stalin and Mao "founded" communism? Is your IQ below 10 or something, vapid brainlet?
>1. Stalin did not invent communism
>2. Mao didn't either
One of them only learned directly from a founder of Communism.
This is not an argument, this is ignoring the truths and evasion.
Pitiful.
I think you are confusing communism with socialism.
I am not. Try again brainlet.
That doesn't mean that communism determines you being a libertarian or an authoritarian -- it does NOT work that way.
Did you miss the part about blame shifting and name calling?
Because it sounds like they literally tried pointing out what you said, and still failed.
The key issue you're glossing over here, is the one of cooperation. At no point in time were the students incentivized to cooperate. While the average grade was still acceptable, it incentivized students to live off the work of the high achievers, and deincentivized the high achievers from working so hard. By the time the average grade became bad, everyone had become deincentivized from studying too hard, and the trust between everybody had erroded because they had let the score go down so much, thus deincentivizing any kind of cooperation. Like an exponentially worse prisoner's dilemma. It's just reasonable human nature.
wow everything is a false dichotomy now
also it was marx himself that called for a very authoritarian system to be put in place to reach utopian communism, which was the basis for the soviet unions government
so yes it is authoritarian
anarcho communism is pussy revisionism (or more often just a lie to more easily coerce)
I was being sarcastic about how communes and communism only works with homogenous farmers since they are the only ones who can manage to feed themselves long term without outside assistance
I don't think you know authoritarianism means
Here is the difference between a person actually read books and a person who learns political science from 4gag
>marxism is communism
top kek
>if i ignore all the vastly more intelligent historical figures than myself who put Communism into actual practice and studied actual effects and faults that propped out during implementation because it led to failure every time, i will be able to act like Communism is something that can work
THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF SOYBOY COMMIES
True Communism is when Communism is banned everywhere it appears or otherwise gutted of its ideas to be forced to work, which is now the majority of the globe and further increasing.
Studies don't mean shit in the face of actual testing.
>reddit wants to stop corporatism on the internet
>still uses proprietary software
Hmmm.
this is now an ayylien thread because you guys have gone so offtopic into Sup Forums territory, net neutrality should be neutralized and the market should just be opened to more competitors, George Soros and the big corps are all for net neutrality because it allows them to continue their monopoly status and Soros can reap the benefit of continued increasing corp stock prices
Hey /X/, how do I summon a succubus?
Did George Soros build the pyramids?
I'm just waiting for burgers to lose their internet access.
Fuck you, 56%
>That doesn't mean that communism determines you being a libertarian or an authoritarian
It does determine you being an authoritarian given how it takes the adoption of authoritarianism to regulate people misusing resource distribution and many other aspects that crop up due to human emotions and personalities like intrinsic greed in some individuals or rebellious pathology in others.
Fascism is half based on Communism, and you have the books of the founders of Fascism listing each and every aspect they pulled credited to Communism before the first Communist nation was even born.
Was the state extinguished in those countries? Because it can't be communism if the state controls the people.
But you're probably from Sup Forums and your brain translates authoritarianism to communism.
>Libertarian Authoritarian
>Right Left
>Conservative Socialist
>Capitalist Communist
mathfag here. Unless I'm missing something, those axes don't really work, as they're not along totally independent variables. Unless there's such a thing as a "Leftist Conservative" or a "Libertarian Communist", those axes just help to conflate things even further. What you want to do, is find simple independent axes that can be combined together to form more the complex concepts like "capitalist" and "communist".
>Market should be opened to more competitors
How do you do that when the big telecoms have effective monopolies in majority us US?
>i will be able to act like Communism is something that can work
If you use the remaining 3 half damaged brain cells you would also notice how I said "communism is a historical failure" but alas, because uneducated dumb fucks like YOU CAN'T FUCKING READ.
Now
>if i ignore all the vastly more intelligent historical figures than myself who put Communism into actual practice
They aren't the only one who put communism to practice. Learn more history. What you are doing is textbook bandwagon.
See , which as a response to >Studies don't mean shit
For you, probably.
russia is irrelevant, this is just internal disassembly btw what is pootin?
You do not have any argument at all, so you really should leave. I can suggest you to visit >>/pol because there are full of the same degenerate kids who don't understand politics and how real world order works
>Leftist Conservative
en.wikipedia.org
>"Libertarian Communist"
en.wikipedia.org
>Studies don't mean shit in the face of actual testing
pls don't. it's offensive to real science to call those bs philosophy essays "studies".
>it can't be communism if people organize
A state is an organization of people.
Your argument can also be valid by saying
>it can't be communism unless only 1 person lives on this planet or humanity turns into a mindhive with 1 personality
Which is why Communism only works on pen and paper, which leads me to this ignoramus Studying means studying practical application and their feasibility, as well as learning from experimentation. You have done no more than study Communism in pen and paper, which is why you don't know shit about Communism compared to those who actually practiced it and experimented it, all of who failed.
Which is why Communism only works when you limit it to papers and don't allow it to touch reality. You don't yourself know what studying entails.
This explains the "True Communism" buzzword.
It's not True Communism unless it isn't allowed to fester in reality, because reality is incompatible with Communism.
KEK
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Communists, flat earthers... we gotta have some comedians to laugh at, as I understand.
I'm not ignoramus, I am arrogant but I know what I am talking about.
t. ancap
>Leftist Conservative
According to the axes mentioned, "Leftist" != "Libertarian", and the link you cited is clearly taking about "Conservative Classical Liberalism" (i.e. "Conservative Libertarian").
I mean, I have no clue what the original commenter defined as being "Left"/"Right", but that's part of the reason why those axes seemed problematic.
>Leftist != Libertarian
Correct.
>make a political thread on a technology board
>tell people to fuck off to the political board if they disagree
everytime