Can we save them from themselves, Sup Forums?

Can we save them from themselves, Sup Forums?

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No, leave us alone.

No, leave us alone.

Fence off the South West and the North West and let them self destruct. The rest of Mexico isn't actually that bad desu.

CIA is the problem, they sell guns to cartels

Are you chicano?

south mexico is Iraq tier desu

Queretaro, best city of Mexicooo

That was the ATF I think

CHI

I thought Yucatan was pretty nice.

It is, but he means Oaxaca and Chiapas.

how to make mexico

- launch a total war on all drug dealers, absolutly no mercy, at any cost
- try to attrack more american companies and get your educated chicao back

elect me

let it crumble

>tfw the whole country brings you down

>The shittiest state in Mexico is still better than the Philippines

they're not worth saving.
leave them alone and
don't let anybody out of mexico.

any capital/big city of any >0.75 hdi country has very high hdi, it's quit normal

guys
there's lots of heroin in the middle east
what if we told the mexican cartels that they can keep the herion if they deal with ISIS?

t. chinh pham
t. drift gansta
t. chilango

No, it isn't.

Cherry picked as fuck, no population density, agro, water resources, etc.

We are one country either way, anyone who doesn't like native Americans should fuck off while the US border is still relatively open, no real difference in between a malinchista and a pocho.

I'm not defending that NEET who always posts stupid shit, I'm just telling what he meant.

No, and it is ironically the US fault. Sorry mexican neighbors for having people snorting the coke and sending the arms via holder.

Those are the exact same things the government has been doing for close to two decades.

Coming from the very people whose dumb fuck positions on climate change have actually turned them into an existential threat to mankind.

This.

Mexico: So far from G-d, and so close to the United States.

ok, cool

>The second most developed state in Mexico is lower than Mississippi
Wow, makes you ponder.

We need to make smaller the gov and apply martial law like Carranza wanted to we might aswell throw off all the leftists

>mfw they are people on my state who support the maestros
>mfw actual people who come from Oaxaca and Acapulco hate them with the rage of 1 million heart sacrifices

Seguro sos negro envidioso..

Not at all, try again.

No, we need to make the government efficient and not go digging into our past for historical figures in different contexts we could use to whitewash pro-American conservatism We don't need more preventivos or the armed forces taking on police duties, the governmentr's answer to insecurity for the past two decades, we need competent investigators and prosecutors who can actually do their job, martial law won't help at all with impunity rates of 90%+ and giving a corrupt political system carte blanche to disregard human rights is a dumb fuck's pipedream.

>Those are the exact same things the government has been doing for close to two decades.

No, Mexico has not gone total war on the cartels. Total war means brutally murdering and killing any cartel member the moment any evidence is against them, as well as any person who gives them support. We're talking wiping them out entirely.

>let me tell you about your country

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borderlandbeat.com/2016/05/mexican-military-most-efficient-killers.html

theantimedia.org/mexican-military-killing-own-citizens/

>efficient at killing their own

>About 3,000 people were killed by the military between 2007 and 2012,

>Around 4,000 complaints of torture.

Not nearly on the level of total war. The cartels have tens of thousands of members and supporters. That's not even doing a dent to them.

Why do you think it is a bad fucking idea?

Sure thing, mate.

Armies are usually training for killing outside task and some internal ones. It is just depressingly sad that your enemy can be your next door neighbor.

It is a sure thing. You think the cartels are scared by losses of 500 men/year total, and maybe a few more tortured? They can easily recruit that number back with the billions they are making. You have to literally torch all their assets, and kill 10,000+ of them a year to make a lasting dent, along with any collaborators. You have to make it clear that assisting the cartels in any way=certain death.

no, I mean the "algerian civil war" way to deal with it.

if there's a dealer in a home, you eraze the whole city. Tanks, air support, world war tier war, no mercy, don't care about civilian loss.

You can remove them in few months with those methods.

you think mexico would learn the lessons of which the colombians had with Pablo escobar.

You can't go full General Sherman if you are not battling against a well defined population (like the entire South during your civil war).
Mexican cartels are a different thing, they are not the mayority of the population by any stretch of the imagination.

>mexican soldiers are the most efficient killers in the world

I don't know what else do you want, but whatever it is, it's fucking stupid.

Oh yeah, they were doing so great.
>60+ murder rate

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they're just part of it, the hordes of gibsmedat, and socialist revolucionists wannabes are also part of the problem (as well as all the shit syndicates like that of the teachers going retard over "muh rights").

actually there's a way to deal with guerria tier tactics : erase the population hiding them.

With less than 1 million civilian casualities, you can get ride of drugs for ever.

You guys misunderstood what I wrote. I meant in the way they handled the Cartel de Medellin was horrible and made the issue worse by not going at it at full force and corruption since he had money and could pay off politicians.

You know how we could almost end (if not, AT LEAST, severly hurt them) without killing anyone?

Legalizing drugs.

Medellin alone used to have 500 murders monthly per month, so i don't think they're even near that level

Like the death squads Brazil has?

Try again.

Just kill all mexicans and mexico will become first world

Jesus fucking christ. How can a government just allow that break down of society is sad.

ALL drugs?

People still consume them no matter what. Maybe not all at once, but eventually, yes.

perhaps because they still keep stealing tax money and living comfortably in their manors while not giving a flying fuck about drug dealers and other criminals running amok killing honest people?

People seem to forget that cocaine was once legal and pretty popular, and thousands of people didn't had to get killed because of it.

that was back in 1987. Nowaday there are on average between 20-30 homicides a month, that is even lower than some US cities

drugs ruin people and societies tho.
But I guess you've no choice but compromise, unlike you go like china vs opium.

I know that, I hate drugs myself. But making them illegal does not make them disappear.

It just pushed them into clandestine circles where only criminals can make profit of it.

If you make them legal, you can:

A) Regulate them so that they now meet better production standarts (so that they no longer give you baby powder, gasoline, and various other chemicals into it), making them in fact, a little less dangerous.

B) Educate people more efficiently about them by depriving them of their taboo status (see the cancer pics they now force into tobacco packages).

C) Create rehabilitation centers instead of imprisoning addicts (the very reason why the U.S. has such a high prison population). Thus eliminating contact between sick people and actual criminals, preventing them to become actual criminals themselves.

D) Make scientific reaserch with said compounds.

E) Make profit of of it. Taxing them really high reducting their cosumption even more (see tobacco again).

F) TAKING AWAY BIG PROFITS AND POWER FROM CRIMINALS

Holy shit.

SHART

Drugs don't ruin anything, addicts and narcos do

This.

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> No, leave us alone.
t h i s
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thats Aguascalientes

if you are zinedine zidane you can be our president

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t. butthurt sinaloense living in chilangolandia

he's right tho

los mapitas

LLEGA EL EXPERTO

Stay out

No government is too deeply entwined with corruption on every level. Industry is all based on who you know and only family/close friends have any mobility and are given opportunities.

It's not just cartels, Mexicans as a whole are very opportunistic and impulsive always choosing instant gratification as opposed to looking at long term goals.

I suppose having a pro US puppet goverment. Massive goverment audit. Take over of all nationalized industries. Decriminalizing/ legalizing drugs up to a certain threshold.

No.

Corruption runs deep on every level of society. There's no saving us.

this to be honest. There people who are worth saving, honest and hard-working; unfortunately they're heavily outnumbered by literally degenerates, socialists, gibsmedats and pyschos (cartels) and idiots that are into "gangster shit". Hope some of the good ones get to stay in other country through legal process while some guy drops a big ass nuke on this place.

>Can we save them from themselves, Sup Forums?
Just leave us be, chaos always falls into order eventually.
One day corruption will be so rampant no kind of public service will be in anyway free. So we'll just have to jump in into a full neoliberalist hellhole where you get bankrupted if you break a finger.
We'll be called little US.

Give them back California and Tejas.

Just because you're not worth saving it doesn't mean everyone is like you. There's literally millions of people going to bed without dinner each night because they won't steal to feed themselves, if the overwhelming majority of mexicans weren't honest and hardworking anyone middle class and up woyuld've been long dead by now, it's the people who work that keep the country afloat despite a corrupt establishment. It's only jackals like you with no love of country or self respect that should be killed.

Impossible, give up.

What a weird way to spell Guadalajara

That's the only way to fix it desu.

But think about it, by legalizing it you could potentially just make the cartels a legal organization that would probably still kill people just to keep making profits

would i literally die if i went to tamaulipas

if you're white, yep because "ya rich cracka "

is there literally one or two murders there every night for some "deal" or "revenge"

yep there are. it isn't surprising because it's US southern border.

Aguascalientes is literally the most boring city I have been to in mexico

It was like going to San Bernardino