Is this the new computing trend?
With USB-C and android 8.0, you can turn your phone into a desktop for day to day tasks.
Desktop Mode
>Huawei
W-will this maybe be available on the P10 /P10 plus also?
Didn't Motorola try this with the Atrix 4G and failed?
No, it's not new. My '12 Galaxy S3 can do this.
Since nobody picked it up then I don't expect anybody to pick it up now.
>My '12 Galaxy S3 can do this
Screen mirroring isn't the same as desktop mode with support for keyboard and mouse.
Also with USB-C you can power external HDD as well.
>Is this the new computing trend?
Not yet but it will definitely be one day.
My uneducated guess suggests that better battery technology will be the key to it. Our pockets have limited sizes and to fully take advantage of "desktop mode" we will need to massively increase the computing performance of these devices (even if everything will be just accessed via web some sites are really fucking heavy) which will come at an increased energy cost.
Can't wait for that to happen, desktop computing will be delegated to workstations and enthusiasts which it where it belongs. But for that to happen - videogame manchildren need to have a powerful enough replacement.
>Screen mirroring isn't the same as desktop mode with support for keyboard and mouse.
Why do you assume I don't have keyboard/mouse or support for any USB device I have a kernel module for (ethernet, dac, flash drive, etc)?
Other than the "desktop mode" which is just a fancy name for an app I see no difference.
Please post a pic of your "rig"
The ubuntu phone os did ot first.
Does it support running OS other than lagdroid?
I was so fucking pissed when funding the project flopped, the Ubuntu phone was gonna be awesome
I don't use my phone in this configuration. I'm just pointing out that doing so isn't new and can be achieved with 5 year old phones.
>can be achieved with 5 year old phones
My Nokia C7 can do that as well.
But Android 8.0 implantation of the desktop mode utilize the phone screen as trackpad/keyboard.
Not new, it resurfaces every few years. Motorola ATRIX 4G did it as well, back in 2011.
So basically, Switch is patient zero if that trend catches up in future?
Actually, you can't. Win32 software is incompatible with ARM processors and emulating it gets you a huge performance penalty on top of the already abhorrent IPC of ARM.
The only way this would work is if a phone with an x86 raven ridge APU was made. Android can run on it during normal use and desktop windows 10 can be booted up for pc use on a tv.
>Switch is patient zero
The nintendo doohickey? Go back to Sup Forumseddit.
Ubuntu Convergence was revealed in 2012 and presented on a device in 2013 Iirc.
Windows Continuum (the same shit but from Currysoft) was introduced in Windows 10 - which means 2015.
I think Samsung DeX was the "first" one to ship a somewhat functioning version of the idea since they actually bothered to make accessories to faciliate that (like the dock with a charging port, USB sockets for mouse/keyboard and a proper ethernet connection.
>Win32 software is incompatible with ARM processors
X86 is dying, ARM is the future.
hmmm-huh, sure thing m8
Dying not dead.
In the net 10 years ARM will become the top platform.
Just take a look at the chromebooks.
That's a comfy looking PC setup i love the asthetic of old rooms.
I think they're into something, normies use their phone for everything nowdays.
My roommate used her phone connected to keyboard to do her assay.
So a phone that can be used as a desktop would be appealing since it's functional and not just a concept.
Isn't this android's version of "what's a computer?" meme ?
Isn't this what the motorola atrix or whatever was supposed to do like 6 years ago?
Yes. All though clunky as fuck, it was an interesting concept. To bad the hardware couldn't keep up...
But since modern flagships have around 4-6GB of RAM, 128GB or more storage and a CPUs that eat celery and bentium for breakfast, thanks to USB-C, this concept can easily come to life again!
Can this be used to run GNU/Linux?
If yes, this would be Sup Forums comfy battle station.
Would the Android Desktop be able to run GNU/Linux or other OS' binaries? I know that it's already possible via a chroot, so maybe this could be made comfortable.There are some things I wouldn't miss...
Also, maybe this would finally be the year of the Linux desktop
This might work if the web browser supported most of the extensions used on desktop.
It's a different approach to the same thing Microsoft is doing with their Shitdows. Instead of taking over your desktop where you control things they have taken over your phone and are now making that REPLACE your desktop. All that while ceasing the desktop PC production.
> Ubuntu Convergence
> Windows Continuum
> Samsung DeX
Doesn't mean jack if they don't sell like Switch is. No market = no improvements, barely any competition, no innovation, low demand and high cost of production
I'm not an apple fangoy but fingerprint sensors on phone wouldn't be mainstream if they didn't do it. You get fingerprint sensors on $100 chinkphones now.
But there is a market for it.
Why do you think HDMI to USB-C adapter is a thing?
Apple brought the USB-C to the game, and android use it to it's full potential.
Then let's see if there are any adopters. Windows and Ubuntu mobile are dead, so basically irrelevant even if "they did it first".
As for DeX, you can't have mass adoption if they confine it to flagships. Apple buyers are an anomaly, they would gobble up any piece of shit that apple puts out on the market, but pajeetland and chinks don't care unless something's cheap.
Good examples are arduino and Rpi, other (somewhat proprietary) and expensive boards will never manage to compete with those, unless it's something semi-custom for industrial applications. Intel killed their IoT department, Galileo and Curie failed.
Early adoption of the concept failed for various resons, mainly hardware limitation and software support.
This however have excellent hardware support and software is still in beta but with enough momentum to get it going.
What it needs is good marketing strategy.
Screen cast became a thing because there was a need for it.
The same is for ultrabooks and chromebooks, people need cheap device to do simple stuff that can be done with phones but need larger monitors and physical keyboard.
All it needs to really get going is properly designed "dock station" with good selection of ports
This is the first time I've ever heard about this. This idea is so neat I might actually get a smartphone if it comes to fruition
>properly designed "dock station"
Like this?
But I doubt it would work unless android implement better printer support or the power to run other OSs.
I bought a Samsung DeX and played around with it a few months ago and never really used it again. I'd much rather use my PC at my desk, or my laptop in bed, so I just stopped using the Dex.
Recently I rented out a work shop, and set up my Dex there. I find it really convenient. All the junk on my phone is already there (music and podcasts), and I can transfer files back home etc.
It's main drawback is that it feels underdeveloped right now. If Samsung and app developers had incentive to make the platform better that would be awesome, but I can't see it happening until Apple puts out its own platform. Having said that most apps already work surprisingly well
BUT if Samsung put out this concept laptop I would buy it in a second.
Like to see something else. This would work for the most normied who dont need processing power. However I would like to be able to move things between devices seamlessly. As in going so far as to have it containerized and morph slightly as I move between machines and platforms.
>Recently I rented out a work shop, and set up my Dex there
I believe this is the most common scenario to use it.
You need to carry your stuff with you but don't want the extra weight.
>it feels underdeveloped
You mean application wise?
>that concept
muh dick, I can easily see chink making something like that for their huawei/xaiomi phones.
>have to buy extra peripherals
>have to buy new monitors
>phone doesn't have the performance to run full desktop apps
no.
>concept
Superbook
>buy extra peripherals
No need, the screen doubles as mouse and keyboard.
>have to buy new monitors
You don't have a monitor that uses HDMI?
>phone doesn't have the performance to run full desktop apps
Like what? do you need 32GB of RAM and 16 core to open a video file?
90% of your computing is web browser related, 8% is media conception and the remaining 2% are for gaming and production.
>kickstarter
It's still a concept then, also you need to use their app not to mention future support.
With Android 8 all this is obsolete, they just need to make the shell.
Also does USB-C support cluster?
Also the app is just a launcher.
>phone to the side
So does the phone work as trackpad?
It would be neat if the phone screen could be use as an extra monitor like W700
>Huawei
>That name
Get this gook shit outta here faggot.
Stop helping the Chinks become richer by buying their garbage that's tolen from American entrepreneurs and intellectual property holders.
>intellectual property holders.
an oxymoron and an insult to intelligence itself
So called ‘intellectual property’ laws are government granted monopolies, that while purportedly intended to encourage creativity have exactly the opposite effect. Many examples and studies have shown the harmful effects of copyright and patents, but the reasons for this effects would be much more clear if one realizes that copyrights and patents are dramatic and arbitrary restrictions of both freedom of expression and free trade.
As with any other government regulations, it is not surprising that big corporations (eg., Microsoft and Monsanto) use them to stifle competition; while others (eg., the Church of Scientology) use them to censor information that could embarrass them.
Aside from all the abuses and unintended consequences, copyright and patents are a great obstacle to creativity and innovation: the creations of all great thinkers, inventors and artists in history would never have been possible in a vacuum and always depend on a context consisting of all the preexisting works and ideas.
bloat
>USB-C
I hate when people just say this buzzword. It's just an interface. USB 3.1 Gen 1 and Gen 2 can both utilize the USB Type-C interface. Don't confuse USB Type-C with USB 3.1 Gen 2.
USB 3.1 Gen 2 can't output digital video or analog audio
Bullshit.
How's the view up there?
So which phone to get to support this?
Galaxy 8 or huawei mate 10