Many sites rely on malicious advertising to make money or even just to keep their servers running

Many sites rely on malicious advertising to make money or even just to keep their servers running.

Instead, why don't they just turn to bitcoin mining? For each unique visitor, every 6hrs the site will prompt them to solve a coinhash which takes less than 20 seconds, and only uses roughly 10%~15% of their CPU.(variable on their specs). It's basically like a captcha, except doesn't require any input on the users part.

>only uses 10-15% of their CPU.
Ads use 0% of my CPU.

One of my fav forums had this message displayed the past couple days on its frontpage

What are the chances they put it there deliberately and then threw their hands up once caught and went with the accident narrative instead

Anyways i mine-proofed all of my browsers with noCoin the other day so this doesn't faze me that much

Yes, but they're usually intrusive and the main reason people don't like ads is because they often get hijacked with malware.

You're telling me you'd rather have a bunch of ads constantly shoved in your face EVERY page you visit, or a one time prompt that asks you to basically click a button?

Making your site mine bitcoins without the users consent or awareness is devilish. I'm talking about full transparency.

>ads shoved in face
I just use adblock kek.
Braindead normies can't figure out how to download a fucking extension so it's a win-win situation.

>Braindead normies can't figure out how to download a fucking extension so it's a win-win situation.
That's the problem.
Everyone uses ublock so the sites are in a constant war to make money so they often rely on donations instead of ads.

I use ublock not because I'm a cheap bastard, but because I don't trust any advertiser. With the bitcoin method, there'd be no need for the site to be malicious and no need to rely on unreliable third parties.

Could be potentially like a power virus though.

How so?
Full transparency means they'd make their coin harvesting method fully open source.(Or just go with an open source provider) Nothing is downloaded on the user's computer. The site just does a tiny amount of hashing on your computer once then leaves you alone.

With 10k visitors a day, I imagine this could atleast cover $300 or $500 a month.

>Instead, why don't they just turn to bitcoin mining?
Because that's my power you're arbitrarily consuming. Maybe if they implemented it in some "mine 1c worth of coin on each page visit" it would be okay, but if you leave the tab open it just keeps sucking your power.

>but if you leave the tab open it just keeps sucking your power.
No that's not how it'll work.
The instant you visit the site, before you can see anything, it'll prompt you. Once it's finished, it doesn't bother you anymore for the rest of the day(variable) and you have full access to the site ad-free.

No background mining.
No mining per page visit.
Just 1 process at start.

Also

>Someone ddos's your site
>you get rich off it

kek.
you can even make it so if a spam bot is detected, it'll force it to use 100% CPU power.

lol so I have to wait before I can open the site? How long are we talking? They can eat shit if they think I'm gonna wait 1 minute+ per unique website. I MIGHT wait 10 seconds.

All the answers to your dumb questions were in the OP you fucking tard

Then no, 20 seconds is too long, they can eat shit. You too.

Don't worry, pretty soon they'll have both malucious ads and miners.

"Less than". Are you even fucking literate? Jesus christ

19.9 seconds is "less than" 20 seconds you faggot.

yet you'll spend 10 seconds solving catpchas every single post and waiting another 60 seconds to post again.

Also, the time it takes is pure speculation. Coinhive takes less than 5 seconds on my rig. I don't know the math behind how profitable vs cpu usage vs time it'd take, but I imagine it won't take long.

I'm thinking a clever programmer can fine tune it based on the amount of visitors. IE, the more people that visit the site, the less CPU extensive the hashing needs to be. You can do all sorts of fun things with it, and I've yet to see it utilize really.

Do... do you really think they use browsers to do DDOS?

No?
If it's a unique IP, it'll trigger the miner so either way they'll be mining for the site.

>This faggot thinks it takes 10 seconds to get past the captchas
>This faggot sits their waiting for 60 seconds to post in the same thread, doesn't use auto mode or multitask
How does it feel to be a faggot nigger? Your mother was a whore and she never loved you. You smell vaguely of cheese and are socially awkward. That girl you are interested in doesn't know you exist and has fucked 50 men.

Also that post was mostly a joke.
I imagine having a million computers all spam the front page would overload the service that requests the user to mine anyway.

>make comment discussing depth of technology
>"your mother was a whore"
ok

>ok
I'm glad we have come to an understanding.

A lot of people use their phones to browse the web nowadays? How would this work for them?

It would drain their batteries like mad. Which is good, we don't need them on the web.

Same as generic js bloat and ads. If it can rung 2mb webpack monstrocity, it can run miner.

Self advertising is against the rules, report threads like this one.

Phone cpu's are pretty good these days.
Anyway, I imagine it'd just check their user agent to see if its mobile, and if it is, use low cpu.

of course, that means people using desktops can spoof their info, but meh, if people want to circumvent the system, they will. not point in trying to fight them

sounds good to me dude. all of the questions in this thread are pretty irrelevant, there is no reason why it can't run in the background and give access to the website by simply agreeing to mine.

1. This is technology related.
2. No advertising was done.
3. Announcing reports is against the rules.

>2. No advertising was done.
Yeah sure... Reminder to everyone to use NoScript and uBlockOrigin

>there is no reason why it can't run in the background and give access to the website by simply agreeing to mine.
I leave that up to individual preference, but I personally wouldn't do background mining if I made something like this. Most people wouldn't be okay with a site hogging even 5% of their cpu simply for using the site, especially 'IF' a one time deal suffices.

That's not relevant to my thread.
You're a retard basing your 'self advertising' assumption off a random image I took off google. Fuck off you idiot.

Stay mad shitty web designer.

i don't mean full-time mining, i just mean a one-time mine that runs in the background.

people up there talking about waiting 20 seconds being doomsday, i'm just saying this is the 21st century, we don't need to wait for the shit to happen.

imagine if sites allowed premium access for certain amounts of bitcoin mining each month. pornhub would be even richer overnight

I looked up coinhash, and it's just a news site. I actually meant to post an image of coinhive, which is more what I'm talking about.

But saying it's advertising is stupid.
That's like me talking about new captcha technology, then some moron saying I'm advertising for Google because I posted a sample image of Google Captcha.

>imagine if sites allowed premium access for certain amounts of bitcoin mining each month. pornhub would be even richer overnight

Even better, they can make an app/desktop program that just uses your cpu to mine for premium access. I'd have no problem doing that.

The problem with this though is that I don't think your average user, even with a 1080ti, can mine even $30 worth of BTC in a month. They'd still have to keep their subscription service for people who use the site with toasters.

Perhaps not $30/month, but if they offer premium services for the low price of however-much-shitcoin-you-can-mine-for-us, as well as a paid premium option, they'd rake in some extra revenue at least

At that point, why not just mine shitcoin for yourself and use it to buy access?

the idea is to profit the content providers, not the users. if a user wants premium access then they can pay for it. if they can't, or don't want to, then they could alternatively mine for the content providers, in exchange for premium access.

Yeah, I get it. But I mean as a user, why not just start mining shitcoins yourself and buy access to specific sites you want then? Why deal with mining time going to others when you can use it for yourself and choose how to use the resources?

see the average user can't mine a monthly subscription's worth of btc in a month. the idea is that a whole bunch of users opting for the mining access, will profit the providers enough to allow people to use their services for free. the groups of free users will mine enough to make the trade-off worth it.

to add to this post, it would also allow a single user to subscribe to several premium subscriptions, and meet the mining quota for all of them within a month, even if the mined bitcoin doesn't equal the value of the subscription price for any one of the services.

so let's say my website has 50 premium users, paying $10/month in cash. the income flow is $500.

as a bonus, 1000 users opted to mine in exchange for my service, which totalled x amount of btc for me. maybe each user didn't mine $10 worth of btc, but they did meet whatever quota i set, and therefore netted me x more income.