>Assemble a part list pcpartpicker.com/ >Example gaming builds and _monitor_ suggestions; click on the blue title to see notes pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/ >Learn how to build a PC (You can find a lot more detailed videos on channels like Bitwit) [YouTube] how to build a pc. (embed) >How to install Win7 on Ryzen pastebin.com/TUZvnmy1 (embed)
If you want help: >State the budget & CURRENCY for your build >List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)
CPUs: >NO i5 7500/7600K or i7 7700/K. THEY ARE DEFUNCT AND SUPERSEDED BY COFFEE LAKE >G4560/G4600 for non-gaming (light tasks) or bare minimum gaming builds with a dedicated graphics card >R3 1200 - Budget builds (best with OC + fast RAM) >R5 1600 / i5 8400 - Great gaming (especially the 8400) or multithreaded use CPUs >R7 / Used Xeon / Threadripper / i7 - Heavy Multi-Tasking / VM Work / Mixed use
RAM: >Current CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 2666 MHz is ideal >Before buying RAM for Ryzen, check your Mobo's QVL or look for user reports (if you have to use RAM off the QVL, update BIOS and there's a decent chance it'll work)
Graphics cards: >Consider Vega 56 for a Freesync monitor >Crypto-Currency miners have driven GPU prices up (particularly Radeon) 1080p >GTX 1050Ti and 3GB 1060 are the only reasonably priced cards; 6GB 1060 or 4GB 580 if you want to overpay a little >GTX 1070 if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 1440p >GTX 1070/Ti and 1080 are standard choices; currently overpriced >GTX 1080Ti if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 2160p (4K) >GTX 1080Ti
General: >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING >A 240GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor
What 144Hz 1080p frameless monitor should I get two of for a dual screen setup? And are there RGB LED strips that connect to the computer so I don't have to use a remote to control their colors? This is what I am planning on making. pcpartpicker.com/list/XHkqKZ
Jacob Rodriguez
>17 Dec >still nothing on Ryzen refresh >RAM and GPU prices can go fuck themselves
It's fine if you have a high Hz monitor Get the i7 8700 instead
Chase Parker
posted a build a minute ago in the other thread, got a little bit of advice, revised my list a bit. looking for tips on where i can shave down a bit on price, and keep most of the functionality for gaming on medium+ settings.
Needs fast RAM Can drop to 3GB 1060 Can drop to R3 1200
Oliver Perry
Why would you tell him to get the 8700k for 1080 res gaming. I wouldn't get it for my 1440
Jordan Taylor
If I make the thread again next time, I will make sure to change the OP, I just copied it.
Cooper Brown
He's already getting the i5 8600K, so why not spend $50 more for a way better CPU? The unlocked i5 is one of the worst value CPUs in the Coffee lineup
Jaxson Kelly
Useless to buy a 1060 when there are AMD cards that do better for cheaper, better yet, save up for a 1080. Don't buy a cheap shitty 1TB hard drive, go straight for something better. I.e. WD Black or a SSHD with a few TB. Get at least two sticks of 8GB RAM.
Right now you won't play shit even on medium.
Jason Morales
alright, so youre talking cut it down like this on the graphics card and cpu, what do you mean fast ram? like more than 8 gb or do you mean switch it out for ddr4-3200 or something
Luis Smith
When is the i5 8400 gonna be back in stock? Getting sick of waiting
Jayden Nguyen
What the hell are you talking about The only card that matches the 6GB is the 580 8GB which has been overpriced for months
Parker Rodriguez
I'm an idiot and never realised there was a 8700 as in not the 8700k as well. Is it definitely worth spending a little more on it than the 8600k?
Isaiah Morgan
I'd get a cheaper mobo, an r3 1200 and better ram, looks fine otherwise.
whats the benefit? its a little bit more expensive which isnt a problem, im just curious
Wyatt Jackson
With the ram i'd just look for a 2x4g kit at 3000mhz or so, you could get a 2x8gb kit but i only just upgraded to 16gb and never found 8gb of ram lacking. I'd also keep the 6gb gtx 1060 that you had at first.
Liam Jackson
also the motherboard doesnt list it supports ddr4-3000, will this be a problem?
Nicholas James
2666 vs 3000MHz, i.e. 12.5% faster.
Carter Ramirez
Memory above 2666 is technically overclocked and not officially supported but there is a good chance that it will work
Luke Moore
thanks for the help guys, have a great day
Adam Barnes
good mouse for gayming(fps,moba,everything) that dont cost over 60 usd? im thinking g102
Xavier Foster
I would get the 502
Nathaniel Diaz
Finishing building my first computer felt satisfying lads
Charles Parker
How are the A320 boards? I need a cheap mobo for someone who will probably never overclock and don't need tons of features.
Kayden Roberts
They're very basic Just wait for an AB350/M Pro4 to go on sale; they're only like $50
Julian Sanchez
>only like $50 More like 75-80 eurobucks on sale here.
Gabriel Garcia
I said i7 8700, not K. Resolution doesn't have an effect on CPU usage directly. In fact lower res means more CPU usage because you're removing load on the graphics card
Get the cheapest 3000MHz 2x 8GB kit you can find and update your mobo BIOS when you get it You can use the pcpartpicker I linked here Personally I'd get a slightly better PSU as well, with two 6+2 pin connectors. Check the build in the OP called 1080p Entry Level
Ideal is 2x 8GB so that it can run both fast and dual channel
Nice, post speccy
Get AB/B350
Jaxson Jackson
I know nothing about computers but this seems like a comfy general
Dominic Ross
Yo guys if im getting a 1060 then should I get a minotor with 1440p or 1080p?
Owen Johnson
I lurked for weeks and learned a lot + kind of just sit here reading watching people help others and sometimes helping myself because it genuinely is comfy
Dylan Miller
So you're saying if I get a 8600k/1070 I should get a 1080 144 instead of a 60 right?
Oliver Miller
Honestly, I have learned more about pc's and tec in pcbg than I have in 4 every tech class i ever too in HS
Liam Gonzalez
Anything I should change? Will be getting a 1080ti later on or wait for volta. Already have a case. pcpartpicker.com/list/rxsvzM
Or should I rather not buy now and just wait for volta? Been struggling with pic related for years which recently started freezing up without bsods for no apparent reason.
Kayden Ross
What do you exactly plan to use this for?
Gavin Bell
A nice 1080p
Most definitely, but the i7 8700 is way better for a little more. Unlocked Intel is kinda like SLI/CF: only do it if you're already buying the top chips, or you have a very particular use in mind
You need a way better monitor before buying an 8700K + 1080Ti
Nicholas Turner
Mainly gayming. Yeah will buy 2k/144 or 4k/60 or something similar as well.
Thomas Torres
Seeing it's my first time building and I'm not very comfortable overclocking I believe 8700 is definitely what I should be going for indeed, thank you. One last thing, is a noctua NH-D14 decent for the 8700 or do you have a cooler you would recommend for it?
Thomas Kelly
If you're playing games, buying an i7, 3600MHz memory, or NVMe drives is completely overkill and basically useless, especially at 2160p. AIO coolers are not worth it, especially for the $60 over an NH-D15 which will perform basically the same.
James Clark
Holy shit dude change everything, y do you still have a core 2 duo? If you get a 1080ti then you'll be bottleneck like a madman
Aaron Wilson
What is a situation in which I should have 32 GB of ram? (I am running an 8700K and 1080TI)
Anthony Myers
Ok thank you, 1080p it is
Joshua Davis
>I said i7 8700, not K. Resolution doesn't have an effect on CPU usage directly. In fact lower res means more CPU usage because you're removing load on the graphics card Not that guy but I have already bought everything, a 8700 and a 1070 ti and a 1080 60hz curved monitor. Am I fucked?
Cooper Cook
Are you running a RAM-intensive task?
David Stewart
I do a bit of work with the adobe suite, but I am far from a power user, and am generally only running up to two of the programs at a time (like image editing/creating while processing video in the bacckground.)
Adam Powell
I suppose it's then down to budget. Do you have the money to spare, or could it go toward something else?
Nolan Diaz
Perhaps now it is an overkill, but after a few years? I'm not that concerned over saving a few hundred, money isn't an issue. I'm a bit worried that a big heatsink won't fit next to the gpu which was the case with a friend of mine (I think he had that NHD15 and a 1080), though he might have had a smaller mobo.
Read the post again.
Ian Lopez
Yes. The 1070 Ti is a 1440p card and will always hit way over 60 fps at 1080p.
Jayden Clark
Well, if I don't get a second set of ram, I could get my second monitor a month earlier, meaning I could get it at the same time as everything else. And I suppose that if I ramp up with my usage of adobe I could always invest in more RAM then. Thanks.
Dominic Jones
>Look at prices for the 8700 >Find a deal where I basically pay 20 euro more than I would initially have for my planned 8600k Holy shit thank you based user
Robert Gonzalez
Should I buy my graphics card now to avoid rising prices, or is the mining resurgence going to die down in the next couple months do you think?
Angel Long
It's not smart to buy overkill parts and hope that they will age well, because 9th gen is just around the corner and RAM speed is the perfect example of diminishing returns. NVMe and game load times hardly correlate.
Evan Roberts
Prices have plateaued, but I don't see them falling, either.
Ethan Morgan
What is an affordable IPS 144Hz 1440p monitor that doesn't have a super bulky edge?
Tyler Thomas
No. You can now turn up more settings than you could before with good framerates.
Tyler Myers
Your GPU will decay faster and your monitor will die sooner
Henry Scott
WHY ARE THE 8400 AND 8700 SOLD OUT EVERYWHERE ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Camden Torres
No problem.
Hard to say.
Obviously if you have the money it doesn't matter, but I'd say buy what you need now Doesn't help that the i5 8400 is out of stock
Eh, sell/return the 1080p monitor and get at least 1080p 144Hz if not 1440p high Hz
They're the worthwhile chips. Intel wants to sell you the overpriced K SKUs. Plus they think they ride on the 'muh OC'd i5 2500K' mindset / memes that aren't applicable with current chips
Ian Bailey
Okay, I think I have finally decided on a final build. Can I get everyone's thoughts? pcpartpicker.com/list/KZGd4C
Isaac Gutierrez
>They're the worthwhile chips. Intel wants to sell you the overpriced K SKUs. Plus they think they ride on the 'muh OC'd i5 2500K' mindset / memes that aren't applicable with current chips Indeed. Well if you have the money the 8700k is still pretty beast and will settle you well, but 8350k and 8600k are the dumbest buys. Even a 1500X on sale is much more justified than those.
Anthony Martinez
this nigga better got the fire department on speed dial lmao
Angel Turner
>8700k >$30 cooler >NEX 650 instead of G2/G3 750 >Sound card >1080p monitors Do none of this
Owen Collins
>8700 I have spent a lot of time looking over benchmarks of the currently available processors, and the 8700k is what is best for my workload, as my main source of side income is editing for several content creators and local business commercials >cooler I have no idea what I am doing with the cooler, would a be quiet dark rock tf be better? I don't want to go AIO. >Power Supply g3 750 now >sound card I really need finer control, I didn't buy sennheisers for nothing. >1080p monitors The only 1440s I can find with the same stats cost 2x as much, and I need 2 monitors. Perhaps I should start with 1 1440 monitor and get a 1080p for the second later on?
Right now I'm leaning towards Ryzen just because I'll be able to easily upgrade the processor in the future, but it's not a deal breaker.
I'll be running linux on this box and using it mostly for software dev and anime, with some light gaming (mostly jp VNs through wine).
Matthew Williams
The 8700k is good nignog but you need a better cooler is what he means especially if you OC If you don't OC get the 8700
Logan Robinson
I do plan on overclocking this, though I have never done it before. What cooler should I get? I want to stick to air if I can.
Connor Reed
It would be nice if I could know what type of work you do specifically. The 8700k will not work well with a weak cooler, and unless you get something better (you might have to change cases because of clearance issues) you should not waste the money. Sound cards are pointless compared to external DACs in my opinion.
NH-D15/S is ideal, but you will have to select another case.
Jonathan Harris
I work with blender, maya, photoshop, after effects, and premiere for creating advertisements and editing together videos for a few content creators. and clearly i play games. Will PC part picker autodetect clearance issues or should I double check the math?
Connor Green
>(yes I know) Still, why the 7400? It is worth it but if you think you'll buy another 8GB down the road then go single stick for a while I suppose. Either way it's not a big deal.
Aiden Miller
Wait. Don't the boxes i3/i5/i7s come with a cooler anymore?
Austin White
Would the NH-C14S do a good enough job and let me keep my current case?
Kevin Diaz
Because prices are fucked here. i5 7400+mobo = R$1050 i3 8100+mobo = R$1290 i5 8400+mobo = R$1540
Jaxson Gomez
Rhodesia? Looks like 50€ difference between 7400 and 8100, not quite worth it indeed. No way to get a 7500? It's like a 8100 but can also boost a bit higher. What about Ryzen?
Jonathan Gonzalez
>Rhodesia No, Brazil.
Adrian Bennett
Yeah I realized after I posted.
Lucas Rogers
Does your customs catch shit getting mailed in?
Ethan Foster
Building a gaming pc planning on using a normal 60hz 1080p monitor. Budget around $1100 to $1200 dollars.
After reading OP's notes this is what I got. Any thoughts or recommendations? I would like to play games like Monster Hunter World, Dragon ball Fighterz...basically games as they come out on the highest setting.
UMA Not for your 8700k nigga it's going to cause a house fire
Lucas Gonzalez
The i5 7500 is out of stock everywhere but one website, where it is about R$920
I dunno
DELICINHA
Liam Torres
Do you have a particular reason for wanting that specific case? Because it looks rather expensive. Also 1TB HDDs aren't cost efficient anymore, you can probably get more for your money looking at 2TB ones. Or if you only game and don't hoard files much, getting a bigger SSD to fit more games (500GB). You can always get a HDD or two later down the road anyway, so focus on your current parts by maxing out what you can, like 3200mhz RAM and other shits.
