I don't trust America. I trust and respect Russia more

I don't trust America. I trust and respect Russia more.

The whole world is going this way too.

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Haha whatever ur crazy sweden

>The whole world is going this way too.
Russia isnt ~cool~ at all.

Any bimbo knows that. Trust and respect mean nothing.

Sounds like kremlin bots were more successful in the West than it was expected.
Please visit rt.com

It's all because you don't live in Russia. Otherwise you would have other opinion. Our economic is in world of shit

How can you trust a man who can't control his own sphincter? You can't.

>rt.com

Old news. Visit www.sputniknews.com

:^)

Sanctions fucked your economy.

Are you a proxycockhole, aren't you?

>trusting
>anyone

Yeah, we produce nothing but oil.

Russia is like a very shitty version of America, sans liberals.

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>can't into satire

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America is just as bad.

What is team-play?

The US has bad areas. Russia for comparison has nice areas (mostly where Putin and his friends live) while the vast majority of the country looks like

These buildings are pretty nice compared to a wooden barrack i used to live in.

The US is a shithole. kek

noone should trust usa or theyll get stabbed in the back

All samefag. All proxies.

I agree with respect to their culture, the views of an average russian are more beneficial to society.

I'd certainly agree.

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>implying Finland was ever an interest to America.

You can tell because we never bothered putting a base there. You're a buffer country.

The UK is turning into the same shithole.

>using heroin
>having a charbroiled liver
>dying at 52
>being one of the world's biggest CP producers
>beneficial to society

Cute, I can edit pics in MS Paint too.

>ms paint
>on mobile
Topkek, fatty. Clean up your mess of a """" country"""".

True but at least your culture is better

Some things are more important than money. I've considered moving to an Eastern European country just because I don't want my kids raised with all of this tranny propaganda they're teaching in elementary school now

>True but at least your culture is better

Having a culture is always better than having no culture.

I disagree

I think no culture is better than an old one that hinders progress (in technology, free thought etc)

LOLno. Russia is totally degenerate because gommies effectively destroyed religion in the country and made gommunism the new religion. When that was gone, people had nothing left to believe in so turned to mass degeneracy.

Dude I can't even watch TV or jack off anymore because I'm inundated with so much black man white female propaganda

Our culture sucks ass

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I'm talking about the views of average russians. There are many more traditionalists. You pretty much described niggers in the US, poverty is everywhere.

What? I always see a bunch of people into incest on porn sites. I'm not sure that helps my argument though. Lol

Traditionalism is one of the main reasons Russia and EE looks the way it does compared to the West.
What's the value of tradition if it keeps you in the middle ages?

I disagree

Pussy Riot got thrown in jail for being degenerates. Those are pretty much your average women over here.

Not to mention I've spoken with quite a few Russian people and they are far more old school in their values than Americans.

>technology cant progress unless I'm allowed to teach children to be transsexuals in elementary school
Ok fag

>I'm talking about the views of average russians. There are many more traditionalists
There aren't any of those; commies took care of that long, long ago.

Nope, that was communism boyo.

Those moralfaggotry "laws" passed by Putin banning anime porn are just a distraction anyway so the sheeple don't notice the crumbling economy and soaring inflation.

The bottom 1% of the US live better than half the UK.

Ill gladly be a fedora tipper if it means not wanting to watch cuckoldry

Enjoy your nu-age civilization

Tradition to you is getting to beat them homos up? Yeah I'd sacrifice that tradition if it means I get to live in something nicer than a ruin and live on a diet of bread and vodka.

But you really don't know the full extent of holding on to these traditions in modern society - hint; their toxic gold digger culture is also a product of it

It must be better than here, it seems they tend to lean more conservative in social terms at least.

>Russia
>In poverty

No, Russians & even you Murican are more privileged than us

If it was Communism they should be over it by now, it's been 30 years. In reality its more like every attempt at Communism in EE was corrupted by tradition.

The bottom 1% of America are Appalachian People and they are poor as fuck

I live in America and every time I log on tinder I see about 5 different girls outright stating they are looking for a sugar daddy

You don't know shit

>with quite a few Russian people

You obviously haven't spoken to the drunks and junkies.

We don't need ideology or religion to have high morals and ethics.

>degenerate
Stop saying this.
They were thrown in jail for being political prisoners. Putin is a poison.

>Traditional is getting to beat up homos

If it means they can't start pedophile organizations like NAMBLA or push transgenderism and feminization of boys when they're 6 years old then yes, line all the homos up against a wall

Different paths to the same outcome. America is also far more traditional than Sweden for example, however it is very diverse. Any country where the tradition/expectation for a woman is to be a housewife, coupled with general financial instability, will create gold diggers.

Also Putin has pretty much totally spoiled religion for Russian Millenials thanks to his fake moral crusades and use of the ROC as a Brown Shirt-style thug organization. Back in the 90s, when freedom of religion existed for the first time in 70 years, there was a pretty big revival in the country of all different faiths. Now...

muh freedoms

True. For him it's another propaganda machine.
The way you can tell he's a despot is by this: if you criticise Obama or Hollande or whoever, no one would take it as an attack on America or France. Sadly though, many Russians have been convinced that an attack on Putin or Russian government and foreign policy is an attack on Russia itself

This is one reason why Germany has such pathetically low birthrates--the German social system is basically still designed for the idea of women being hausfraus. There isn't an adequate support structure for working mothers the way there is in France or the UK, so tons of women simply have no kids because they can't have them and a job at the same time.

Communism is inherently flawed, social traditions would not affect it anyway. Their current government is not a true democracy.

Does anybody on 2ch get in trouble?

>it's been 30 years

Communism was in Russia since 1917 till 1991. You think mere 25 years is enough to undo that? When communism ended, Russia barely had anyone that even remembered what it was like before communism and no real tradition to go back to.

I don't know, I don't use that website. Hopefully I won't mysteriously go missing like other people who criticise Putin though.

>Back in the 90s, when freedom of religion existed for the first time in 70 years

First time ever you mean.

>implying religious freedom existed in the Russian Empire

Saying something is better is not the same thing as saying it's perfect.

White ethnic Russian birthrates have also been on the incline and increasing population, one of the very few if any white countries to do so.

I think you think these issues are a far greater problem than they actually are. I've yet to see any country where "transgenderism" becomes part of the national curriculum. Though I can't say I have any explanation for why NAMBLA exists, that's just the US being insane. But even if it didn't exist, the pedos would still be around.

I guess the point I want to reach, is that issues of morality in politics are the number one tool of any government or ruler to distract from issues of economics. That's why Russia bans this and that liberal organization, cracks down on "foreign propaganda", basically has assumed the role of a right wing moral paragon, but in the end, people still live in the same rotting commieblocks and die of liver failure at age 58.

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Religion is degenerate.

I personally trust nobody.

>bothered putting a base there

>putting a base in an uncucked country
>2016

The Russian Empire was funny in that way. Some religions were completely ok like Islam, the local Orthodox churches in the Caucasus, and the Lutheran Finns/Estonians. Catholicism and Judaism were very much not ok and they were harshly persecuted.

>That's why Russia bans this and that liberal organization, cracks down on "foreign propaganda", basically has assumed the role of a right wing moral paragon, but in the end, people still live in the same rotting commieblocks and die of liver failure at age 58.
Tell it brother. I am originally from the middle of nowhere Siberia, nothing has changed here. Maybe if you live in upmarket parts of Moscow or you're the owner of a gas company things are better, but certainly not for the average Joe.

>cuckoldry
I don't think you know what that word means

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I believe it's more about how people advocate for transgenderism, and try to make others believe it's a good thing and should be accepted by everyone. While in reality it is a terrible way of life. That would cause many more people to become transgender.

We didn't put a base there because that was part of the agreement Stalin made with Funland in 1946--you stay neutral and don't ally with the US and Britain and...we don't invade you and turn you into gommies.

Finland had a gun pointed at their heads for the entire Cold War and no choice but to go along with it.

It's not degenerate, but theOrthodox Church is corrupt.

Now the exact response would differ depending on country, but it's just wrong to say social traditions did not affect communist governments. Russia retained its view on homosexuality, and its Imperial bureaucrat class. North Korea punishes not only dissidents but also their families, as per tradition. China went full "Communism with Chinese characteristics". Romania invented "National Communism". And so on.
No matter how radical they tried or did not try to change, sooner or later they all wound up in their historical patterns again.

What else is there to be undone? The economic system dissolved within days. The social structure as well. A whole generation has now grown up under Capitalism.
But this is interesting, maybe not so much in Russia but in other EE countries, where the new generation tries to reconnect their sense of identity to the period before Communism - which is of course impossible, and they end up being in a sort of cultural limbo. Russians don't have this problem because they, in general, embrace the Soviet period as a part of their history and identity. While in EE, it's usually something everyone tries to pretend didn't happen other than as a reason to scapegoat current shortcomings on.

But it's not better. Why do you think Russia leads the stats in AIDS and has considerably lower life expectancy than the rest of the post-comms? It's because Russkies are shooting Afghani heroin like no tomorrow and those who don't prefer to drink themselves to death. Obviously not everyone but more than any other country in Europe (save for Ukraine maybe)

Sure, Putin might be preaching about Russia STRONK and DON'T DO DRUGS, MOTHERLAND NEEDS YOU but only a minority will listen, the rest are still conditioned from commie times not to trust anything the politicians say.

Why are you so focused on this transgender thing? It's not common anywhere.
I think fundamentally people should be allowed to make their own choices in life socially, and many people in Russia certainty can't do that.

The Uniate Church in Ukraine was also totally b&. Ukrainians in the RE weren't allowed any separate identity at all or any religion except the ROC.

>It's not national curriculum

Not yet it's not but it's already curriculum in a few states and it has been and it will continue to expand.

Maybe part of the reason Russia cracks down on morality laws is because they already know they're poor and they know that they'd be in even deeper shit if there was no moral foundation to build society.

>But this is interesting, maybe not so much in Russia but in other EE countries, where the new generation tries to reconnect their sense of identity to the period before Communism - which is of course impossible, and they end up being in a sort of cultural limbo. Russians don't have this problem because they, in general, embrace the Soviet period as a part of their history and identity. While in EE, it's usually something everyone tries to pretend didn't happen other than as a reason to scapegoat current shortcomings on.

Poland, Romania, et al weren't commies nearly as long as Russia though, less than 50 years.

It is. If you don't rape and kill other people only because you are afraid of being sent to hell, that means you are degenerate.

I'm focused on it because this is becoming part of mainstream American culture now and they're teaching it to children and suing people who don't want to bake gay wedding cakes. It's just one example but it's not a "choice" when it becomes state sanctioned curriculum and law of the land.

>But it's not better. Why do you think Russia leads the stats in AIDS and has considerably lower life expectancy than the rest of the post-comms? It's because Russkies are shooting Afghani heroin like no tomorrow and those who don't prefer to drink themselves to death. Obviously not everyone but more than any other country in Europe (save for Ukraine maybe)

Don't forget world center of CP production along with Ukraine. ;)

The bottom 50% of the U.K. are orphans and chimney sweeps. Both poor and both wear stove pipes hats.

Ex-Yu countries kind of embrace Tito as part of their history.

Perhaps you're right to a degree. Don't use Russia as a model for what you would like though, it's gone too far the other way.

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I don't think most Christians don't not do those things only because of that reason. Don't think too simplistically.

>Sweden
>women have high levels of security
Was this map made before or after the rapefugees came?

>The economic system dissolved within days.

Not true. Everything had to be privatized which was of course a golden opportunity for scammers and thieves and we are still living with and paying for the consequences.

>The social structure as well.

Again not true. The habits and logic of communist way of life still live on because the people were raised in it and people change their habits VERY slowly.

>A whole generation has now grown up under Capitalism.

Taught by those who lived through it.

>embrace the Soviet period as a part of their history and identity.

Exactly why we are in NATO and try to reconnect to the West.

Underrated as fuck