>The Finnish Defence Forces is based on a universal male conscription. All men above 18 years of age are liable to serve either 165, 255 or 347 days. Yearly about 27,000 conscripts are trained. >According to Finnish Defence Forces 2011 data slightly under 80% of Finnish males turned 30 had entered and finished the military service.
does your country have conscription army?
do you feel that your countrys young male population could use something like conscription army to teach discipline etc?
Holy fuck thank God no, can't imagine someone actually telling me what to do without any choice. Absolutely surreal to me.
Thomas Cooper
who are they trained to fight? Polar bears?
Cameron Hill
>C-papers I will never learn to fold sheets properly.
Caleb Rodriguez
I wish we had conscription like Israel, so all the fat girls would lose weight.
Liam Miller
russians
Oliver Myers
we are trained to defend Finland from an unknown enemy from the east
Dominic Watson
good times
Dominic Wood
No because we have a professional army like every civilized country.
Robert Williams
>tfw they come from west
Landon Nelson
and how is your country more civilized than Finland?
Jacob Price
I kinda wish we had national service. Too many entitled millennial shitheads and "oi yeh nah fuck da police aye cunt" people running around.
Xavier Diaz
the >unknown foreign threat
Liam Gray
1.Yes 2.Maybe
Michael Russell
We have same's
I feel somewhat bad about it though.
Jack Thompson
this is how conscription would look like if america had it.
Anthony Nguyen
no our country hasnt any military.
Thomas Ramirez
>24 hour fast food >same day shipping
get rekt
Daniel Reed
We don't have conscription or a wartime draft system, "neutrality" bants
I have heard from military people in UK that national service greatly waters down quality of troops, but they provided few proofs so take that with a grain of salt
Asher Cooper
same day shipping is possible if you live in southern Finland. not sure about that 24/7 fast food but i don't eat burgers
Carson Carter
>I don't eat burgers. Probably for the best. That would be cannibalism.
Charles Bell
>right to keep and bear arms That´s the big one. We are serfs, only allowed arms at the mercy of government.
Andrew Campbell
>national service greatly waters down quality of troops of course it does, but winland is too poor for a professional army
quantity >>> quality when it comes to 30k or 500k soldiers
Justin Perry
italy 1. no more 2. yes
Zachary Cook
>not sure about that 24/7 fast food but i don't eat burgers See this is why I will never live anywhere but America. If I want a cheeseburger and hashbrowns at 3:55AM I should be able to have it within 10 minutes tops. Anything less is literal barbarism.
Mason Barnes
I wish we did. Bet it would have a good effect on the culture. Definitely would have sped up my learning to not be a shithead, at least.
Parker Torres
Russian soldiers will run your machine guns until they melt. After that they will kill all the men and rape all the women. Life is a Russian soldier is worth less than the set of his ammunition, and it allows you to overcome any opponent.
Kevin Butler
The whole point with the 2nd amendment is to keep the government from going tyrannical
how is the finnish government gonna go tyrannical when it has no army
Lucas Butler
Truthfully the conscription model is not very reliable because Finland's limited resources, geography and the nature of modern military conflict don't allow Finland to stalemate the enemy through long-term guerilla warfare let alone a direct confrontation.
Eli Jackson
Yes
No I'm not more disciplined now. All I've learned his how to murder people efficiently without wasting ammo and how to drink crazy amounts of beer.
Evan Barnes
>how is the finnish government gonna go tyrannical when it has no army No need for an army when the populace is armed with bows, kitchen knives and baseball bats.
Jayden Reyes
I couldn't get all my things neatly in my locker on the first day. That's when I realized I'm not cut out and need some C in my life. No regrets.
Carson Perez
Tell that to Kaiser Wilhelm in WW1. I can't remember the exact quote, but he called the British Army of 150k troops pathetic and ended up getting BTFO.
Gabriel Perez
>Russian soldiers will run your machine guns until they melt. After that they will kill all the men and rape all the women. Life is a Russian soldier is worth less than the set of his ammunition, and it allows you to overcome any opponent. i've heard that before
Liam Reed
>bönde riots >government has about 3 cops and 10 soldiers against every couple hundred civilians (who have military training themselves) this will go well
Caleb Watson
Russians didn't have cruise missiles back then.
David Gutierrez
>No need for an army when the populace is armed with bows, kitchen knives and baseball bats. Nigga, we do have guns, quite lots of them in fact. Just not murrican style where every inbred psychopath can shart into walmart to get grenade launchers.
Oliver Roberts
Tfw you have Mannerheim plaque in you city
Kayden Nguyen
we will find a way
Ryan Robinson
Who won that war?
Joseph Bennett
USSR
Parker Thomas
>grandpa is in conscript british army >he is on a field exercise >his platoon has about 3 useless layabouts >they settle in for the night >4am it's time to move >everyone gets up and starts moving >about 10 minutes in squad leaders start to do a headcount >they are missing 3 >all bets to who it is >they go back to get them >they aren't there >they spend 20 minutes looking around the area for them >get ambushed by the enemy >it turns out they got up and when they realised what happened they started wandering around instead of staying put >they found another platoon >they thought it was the platoon from their company >they told them everything when asked >it wasn't
I'm glad we don't
Cameron Martinez
U S A
Daniel Wilson
Exactly.
Christian Ross
...
Jacob Nguyen
>300 tractors captured
Mason Flores
Gee. I wonder who won, a country with 4 million people who had been independent for two decades, or country with population of 300 million which had USA trembling in its boots for half a century?
Angel Sullivan
>my country is weak >their country is strong >so it's not fair
whatever
Eli White
It was a decent attack attempt and a lot of ruskies got killed, so that's a bonus
Christopher Davis
USSR did fail their objective in Winter War, which was to annex Finland. Continuation war is a decisive soviet victory though since they were on the defensive.
Adam Torres
Yeah, whatever. The whole question "who won" is completely retarded when best case scenario for the other side was to retain independence at any cost.
William Harris
If you can't make it in the world your country shouldn't exist.
Ryder Hughes
i'm with you on this one, finland should've had totally invaded russia
Luke Garcia
Good Finland
Justin Reyes
And we retained independence and quite little cost in the end. Whereas for example France or Germany did not. I wonder who deserves to exist in the end?
Elijah Miller
Finland does deserve to exist more than france or germany desu
Michael Gomez
>implying rioting will ever take place Finns will comply with future firearms legislation, turning in their "illegal" arms with pleasure.
>Nigga, we do have guns, quite lots of them in fact. Firearms ownership is diminishing year by year, largely due to unneccessary tightening of gun laws as a knee-jerk reaction to recent school shootings.
>Just not murrican style where every inbred psychopath can shart into walmart to get grenade launchers. >implying GTA is not an accurate depiction of America.
Christopher Ward
We didn't siege Leningrad. If we wanted to we could have cut off the road of life or whatever and killed all the millions of inhabitants.
Aiden Collins
why is finland there
correct me if I'm wrong but weren't we supposed to cut supply routes up north and even refused to do that?
Camden Hernandez
>If you can't make it in the world your country shouldn't exist. But we made it, nigel. Rose from poor agricultural country to one of the best to live in under 50 years after three wars
John Martin
>knee-jerk reaction to recent school shootings. this is so fucking retarded to me
>there was a school shooting in america >finland needs to change it's gun laws ?
???
Isaiah Brooks
No, but if you're male, you do have to register with the selective service system when you turn 18 even if you're not a citizen. Even illegal immigrants are required to register.
Thomas Richardson
>??? Retards, that´s the problem. Democracy equals rule of the feeble-minded grey masses with an IQ that´s barely sufficient for graduating Amis.
It would certainly make a man out of many of our millennials. My fought in Afghanistan but he's a degenerate with a death wish. Really it should be up to the individual, unless it's defcon 5
Lincoln Thompson
*brother
Matthew Roberts
i wish we had that here. seems like a good way to learn basic survival skills, self-defense, teamwork/comradery, and bridge gaps between people of different socioeconomic/ethnic/geographic gackgrounds
>tfw quit boy scouts the first day because all we did was pointless arts and crafts
Oliver Cooper
The only way this would work in America if it was for some useless branch of defense, like the National Guard.
>be me turning 18 >receive notice to report my my local military office for conscription >go over there >tell them that my family does not serve communists or kikes >avoid military service
Not 1 hour of my life was wasted to this useless shit
Jack Barnes
it was much worse when you had morning jogging 3 minutes after waking up every single morning
Hunter Rodriguez
VICTORY!!!
Liam Evans
>Really it should be up to the individual, unless it's defcon 5 I agree with you except you have your DEFCON backwards
Josiah Wilson
what was your assignment?
Alexander Morales
mitä tää jäbä oikein duunaa
Ayden Richardson
signalman in airforces
Jordan Taylor
That feel when we had to do it too, but in full gear minus the gun because Tukik. has to be more manly than the jaegars.
Nathan Powell
tupalaiset tehnyt jäynän laittamalla patjan jakkaran sisälle ja se ei sieltä tule helposti pois
Mason Fisher
I can get food 24/7, delivered to my house.
Robert Martinez
We had that in NCO school, but not before or afterwards in the base unit.
Shit was shit especially when it was wet and/or cold.
Jeremiah Gomez
What, did you break your leg?
Aaron Torres
kiusaaks ne sitä koska b-tuvassa on tylsää ja se on samein kaikista
Jayden Reed
We realized during 'Nam that conscripts made for shitty soldiers if they weren't fighting defensively, and considering it's geographically impossible to invade the US we'll never need it again
Anthony Cruz
kaikkia siellä kiusataan ihan yhtä paljon
Jeremiah Campbell
So how did the Mexicans come in?
Ryan James
We wanted tacos and people to pick our crops for us, so eh
>do you feel that your countrys young male population could use something like conscription army to teach discipline etc?
utter fucking bullshit. bydlos are bydlos and will remain bydlos, they are disgusting, subhuman and uncivilized regardless of respective martial discipline, even in combatant roles.
that being said we still need conscription and it's not all terrible but the bydlos make it quite bad