Is the Netherlands really Nordic?

Is the Netherlands really Nordic?
They are like Swedes on a Danish sized soil.

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yes

no

No. We are superior to Nordics in every way imaginable.

They have to pay for school. They are barely european

No

this.

We are the only non-Commie country in Europe.

Yes, we are Nordic.

no

No. Even germany is more nordic

At least our tax money goes to something. Yours just goes in the trash.

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No, the Netherlands is anglo.

They're reverse post-Communist Yugoslavs

this is pretty much how i have always thought of us.

>haplomemes

Your tax money goes to funding mentally deficient leftists who take 10 years to finish their gender studies, all at the government's expense.

>52% tax
>still have to pay for school

Agree

They are close to Germans.

>white jews
>germanic
>sea faring
>protestant
>""""""progressive"""""", """"""liberal""""""", """"""socialist"""""""

why not?

€2000 in tuition per year, plus books. It's outrageously expensive in my opinion, but it's much better than in the UK and especially the US.

The good thing is that my tax money doesn't fund people studying useless things like psychology and art. I would happily pay taxes for medical students, engineers, etc. but not for people doing useless degrees.

>netherlands
>nordic

Germanic is different from Nordic.

Dutch are Germanic.

dicks out for harambe

>Is the Netherlands really Nordic?
Yes. We eat raw fish and our coffee consumption is mentioned in kilogrammes a year, just like the rest of the Nordic world.

>They are like Swedes

No. Swedes are like what we used to be back in the 90s, before reality struck home HARD.

England is dutchic tbhwy famalampai

They're probably the most similar to north west Germans

I love how the Netherlands, Niedersachsen, Schleswig-Holstein -area eats salty liquorice.

>€2000 in tuition per year, plus books. It's outrageously expensive in my opinion, but it's much better than in the UK and especially the US.

lmao.. €2000,- is nothing, especially not since you can borrow it at

English are mix of Celts and Germanics.

Denmark even pays foreigners and its worth foe them

That too. Though personally I prefer sweet and/or honey flavored liquorice.. My gf likes salt though.

also:

>geographically

As nordic as denmark

>culturally:

Protestant. Sober. Tolerant.

this too: there is literally no regard in which we are not nordic

>is nothing

Mate, apart from the UK our universities are the most expensive in Europe (or at the very least in the top 3). Why? Dutch universities are not better than German universities, or Scandinavian universities, but they are more expensive.

In any case, it's not too bad. In the UK tuition fees for every uni are £9,000. From Cambridge to the shittiest uni, all the same tuition. That's too much.

In any case, I don't mind it. I am a part of the last year which still gets free government money to study.

we're Denmark's little brother :3

That's stupid of Denmark.

how much for a rent in the nearby of Amsterdam?

too much

we have more population than denmark

They have shortage of qualified people and most of foreign graduates stay there and work. People were afraid that students would just get bachelor and gtfo but this isnt case

so, correct me if i wrong. everything in netherlands is expensive as fuck and the state give you minimal amount of money to survive.

Depends on what is nearby for you, there are affordable places within 30 minutes with the train

>Mate, apart from the UK our universities are the most expensive in Europe
Still nothing compared to the actual cost, especially if you take into acount the EXTREMELY lenient loan system. Why would it have to be free? Don't you think we pay enough in taxes as it is?
> (or at the very least in the top 3). Why? Dutch universities are not better than German universities, or Scandinavian universities, but they are more expensive.

Because Dutch students aren't entitled to as much tax money as other European students.. I'm sure there are other reasons too, but why would you advocate making expensive services that will likely make a lot of money for those that make use of them free? We got rid of universal free healthcare in favor of a more cost-based system with competition for the very same reasons: Making expensive services free and universal is silly.

yeah, that's what i mean.

Then it's smart from Denmark. In any case, we have 3 times Denmark's population on a piece of land of similar size. Comparing them is futile.

Housing is cheap outside of the Randstad

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>Slovenia more Germanic than Austria

One of the more affordable places 30 minutes with train has rents from €650 and up, but that's not counting the social housing, but that has a 10 year waiting list

okay, thanks Lars Van Der Wiel

that settles it

>social housing
i'm not a hobo, m8

Who cares about fucking taxes or school tuition? Pic related is the biggest stupid expense for all of western Europe

>before reality struck home HARD.
what do you mean?

Well, our "hobo's" live in houses like this then

>but that's not counting the social housing, but that has a 10 year waiting list

And an income demand that enables nobody but the most savage of rednecks and most poorfag immigrants to apply.. I live in social housing, and by the books my and my gf make too much money to apply (they can't kick you out once you're in though, just raise rent by a percentage every year). If we make too much, it means the target audience are literally unemployed..

Buy a house or go lolfuckyou is the message the government is sending.

They're not stupid like the Swedes though.

even in this way we are nordic.

I have literally heard NONE (0) arguments against us being nordic yet!

Step up your game guys! :^)

I mean that Swedish politicians, idealists and sometimes Sup Forums posters remind me of the 90s in the Netherlands: We genuinely believed everything was going to be great, we genuinely believed intergration was a matter of time, we genuinely believed there were no negative elements to Islam, and we genuinely believed we were the bestest, greatest most nicest country on earth and that the rest of the world should examine us closely, and learn.

I get that vibe sometimes from certain Swedish media... Sometimes I think you lads are just a political murder or two away from going full Netherlands.

I'm in an income range that I can apply for social housing, I'm not a complete redneck, I'm just "young" with a job which doesn't require a college or university degree.
But I'm not on the list so I'm forced to pay €500+ a month for a shitty house because they don't want me to get a mortgage either (dropped out of college)

oooh I see. Had no idea you guys were like that in the 90's. What changed you?

and yes that is exactly what Swedish media and our Politicians are like. just a bunch of idealists. Except Jimmie

Cucked, stupid, ugly, autistic and degenerate. There is literally nothing good about Swedes.

>implying

How about the fact that we don't lie in Northern Europe, we don't speak a Scandinavian or Finnic language, we are genetically, historically and linguistically closer to our neighbors (UK, Flanders, Germany), we have (and historically had) a sizable catholic population, we never even shared a state with a Scandinavian country (apart from Nazi germany I think, lel).

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>Sometimes I think you lads are just a political murder or two away from going full Netherlands.

(He is refering to our 2 political murders:

Politician Pim Fortuyn & Aritist/ documentary maker Theo van Gogh.

Both were anti-islam (And hugely popular)

Both got shot, one by some environmentfag and the other by a salafist

These were kind of the straws that broke the camels back.

>I'm in an income range that I can apply for social housing, I'm not a complete redneck, I'm just "young" with a job which doesn't require a college or university degree.

You're alone then, right? I was talking from my own experience as a couple.. My gf was right before getting her first real job, I was a student with a side job. Together we made fuck all, so we could apply for social housing. However, as soon as my gf got her first full time job as an english teacher, we were out of the social range, even though my income on paper at that point was near 0 (like a few thousand annually)... If a starting teacher and a poorfag student together don't apply, there's something wrong with the system imo. How are the people in social housing incentivised to work? This shit breeds single income families and people fully going for every benefit and subsidy they can scrape together.. Unhealthy imo.

>But I'm not on the list so I'm forced to pay €500+ a month for a shitty house because they don't want me to get a mortgage either (dropped out of college)

You're not very smart if you weren't on the list. I enlisted for social housing at 18, and 6 years later I could actually get a house.. I was number 8, meaning that 7 other people could have swooped in and taken the house. We were lucky though... However, for a multi-bedroom house I was number 43(!) on the list in the same town.

I see. I guess every nation needs a rude awekening

Pim Fortuyn's assassination is extremely suspicious. I don't for a second believe the official narrative.

>What changed you?

Like I said: Reality striking home, HARD.

>suddenly lefties were the bad guys
>a few years later happens
>now MUSLIMS are the bad guys

It is not sufficient for leftists to be demonised or made unelectable. Where they can be found, they must be harassed, their homes vandalised, attacked on the streets and ultimately themselves killed.

We are all of the rude and mean traits.

>>suddenly lefties were the bad guys
based

how is the muslim istuation there now? What are peoples feelings towards them? And did you accept any webm related?

>this butthurt philippino again

fuck off subhuman

I think 160000 or so asylum seekers last year was a bit of an awakening in Sweden.

really makes you think

Here you go famalam:

being direct ("rude") is a trait commonly associated with dutch people.

We are not scandinavian levels of arrogant/cocky however. This is possibly because our secret moral code is: "just act normal, thats weird enough on its own". You are not supposed to stand out, and if you do stand out you are not supposed to brag about it.

100% not nordic. The history, heritage and mentality share no similarities.

google.nl/#q=dutch people rude

The Scandinavians have the same concept, they call it the "Law of Jante".

It's also the dumbest and most stupid shit ever.

Nope, you are the dutchies.

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>I think 160000 or so asylum seekers last year was a bit of an awakening in Sweden
nah Swedes are without a doubt the most naive stupid people on earth. Like the dutch guy said about his country the Swedes saw themselves as the most kind and good hearted people on earth.

It was whn the mass rapes, sexual assaults and murders started happening that people started awakening

Would Sup Forums give its unconditional support to the future Kingdom of Nedermarken?

>You're not very smart if you weren't on the list.
I did write me in, but something got fucked so I never actually got on the list and didn't really bother about it.

I just checked, because of my last raise I'm just out of the social housing range, but I still don't earn enough for most houses.

>based

It wore off though.. It's still more acceptable to be a leftwing extremist than a right wing extremist. But at least people no longer believe everything done by commies/lefties/antifas is 'good', and police and secret services take threats from radical leftists more serious now.

>how is the muslim istuation there now?
Shit. You don't erase decades (40+ years!) of bad policy overnight..
>What are peoples feelings towards them?
Generally: Practise your religion any way you like, but ffs keep it to yourself and respect our ways, if even a little bit.
>And did you accept any webm related?
I don't think the whole 'refugees welcome' shit in NL was on the same level as in places like Sweden or Germany... Mostly because the news had been going on and on about a group of illegals in Amsterdam that refused to leave the country after having their applications denied RIGHT as the current refugee crisis started.. Many Dutch people were already tired of it. Most of us will gladly accept ACTUAL refugees from war torn families, but the tolerance for single men from sub saharan Africa had been very very low before the meme-'Syrians' even started coming.. Actually, the reason those Somalis that kept moving around Amsterdam in crappy tent camps or squatted buildings eventually left the country because all of the governmental services meant for refugees and such were cut off for them in favor of the NEW wave of refugees. The gibs stopped, and on they went.. Which turned many people quite cynical, even about the newer waves.

Sure. But global warming would make sure that it would last only 30years

No it isn't. Only little children living with their parents would think that.

>You are not supposed to stand out, and if you do stand out you are not supposed to brag about it.
That's basically Protestantism/Calvinism iirc.. Keep your head down, WORK, don't indulge and for FUCK sakes don't have too much fun... That's basically our traditional culture.

I learned about antifa from Sup Forums. Do we have a lot of em?

we'll be fine

And it breeds mediocrity. In the US, success is encouraged starting from high school. That's the way it should be. We now have a zesjescultuur because of the culture of mediocrity.

>I just checked, because of my last raise I'm just out of the social housing range, but I still don't earn enough for most houses.

That's the real trap: Make too much for social housing, but too little for free sector housing (who will often demand X paychecks as a deposit, or that you make like 2,5x the rent a month) or getting a mortgage. Good luck getting a roommate or moving back in with mom..

You're not going to get a house that way anyway, 'mate'.

I'm currently looking, average rent is €100/m cheaper than in the place I'm now.
How is that not cheap?

In the big cities we have quite a few.. Amsterdam is commie/antifa/anarchist central.. Absolutely jam packed with unworldly kids raised with silver spoons up their arses, gigantic ego's and a 'ONLY WE KNOW WHAT'S RIGHT FOR THE WORLD' attitudes.. Entitled as shit too, as evicended by the fact that the squatting movement is STILL going strong in Amsterdam, and is actually deemed legitimate by some, even though the ACTUAL housing crisis was a while ago, and speculative vacancy in Amsterdam is also a thing of the past... It's also typical that they seem to justify their squatting by the fact that they apparantly NEED to live in the centre of Amsterdam for some reason, even though that's been the most expensive real estate area of the country since forever.

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Read some shit here, and you'll get an idea.. This is the 'idependant' lefty press, basically.

>The gibs stopped, and on they went.. Which turned many people quite cynical, even about the newer waves.
top kek. When will the West wake up and understand reality?

It's inexpensive compared to the randstad though.. You can buy appartments

Yeah... this really means something. I recently bought a penthouse in Manhattan for 5 million dollars. My neighbour's apartment is 4 million so his is cheap.