most intel cpu's produced in the last decade are rendered obsolete
1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th & 8th Generation Intel® Core™ Processor Family Intel® Xeon® Processor E3-1200 v5 & v6 Product Family Intel® Xeon® Processor Scalable Family Intel® Xeon® Processor W Family Intel® Pentium® Processor G Series Intel® Atom® C3000 Processor Family Apollo Lake Intel® Atom Processor E3900 series Apollo Lake Intel® Pentium™ Celeron™ G, N and J series Processors
why would I care about low power Xeons? All they do is run my FreeNAS box.
Isaac Murphy
Reminder that literally nobody knows exactly which processors are affected and we will not know until the whole thing goes public.
Leo Torres
What about westmere?
Noah Flores
P4/X300 HTPC coming out of retirement
David Wilson
shut up.
William Price
Myabe the shouldnt have wasted $300m on a bunch of dumb cunts who have no business anywhere near a computer.
Asher Brown
One of the linux patch assumed that every single x86 CPU was vulnerable. AMD later submitted another patch to disable it on their CPU.
Reliable perf impact benchmarks are still needed. What we know for sure is that it's going to affect I/O heavy workloads the most.
Samuel Morris
Let's summarize guys >(((diversity))) >shitty yields >constantly delayed 10 nm process >suicidal avotons >foreskin-based thermal paste instead of solder in the ihs >even in their fucking xeons >unscallable ringbus >with netburst 2.0 like temps >massive thermal infernos in their i9 processors >1 fucking kilowatt overclocked >the PowerPC 970 and the fucking 9590 look like a candle lit in the middle of the fucking Minnesota's winter in comparison with the i9 >now this horrible bug that will hamper at least 30% of the performance when its fixed AMD did nothing and already its winning this year.
Ryan Allen
Yes, they're assuming all processors are affected until they know otherwise. That doesn't mean this thing is going to be affecting 386's and whatnot, that'd be ridiculous, but it's what they SHOULD be doing until they know otherwise.
Robert Lewis
>the kernel team doing sensible security practices This shit must be THAT bad.
Michael Rodriguez
Someone jumped the shark.
Ayden Anderson
good meme
Ian Reed
>tfw my thinkpad will get even shittier now AMD laptops when?
Grayson Cook
CES.
Aaron Anderson
Anyone else feeling sleepy? Let's go to bed goys.
Dominic Cooper
There's already AMD Thinkpads.
John Martin
im waiting for a 2700U (or newer gen) X1 Yoga
Ayden Powell
its ironic but damn it feels good to be a gangster
Landon Myers
What have you done Intel...
Grayson Barnes
They will even profit from it because people will need to upgrade their systems to keep up with demand. This only accelerates their growth.
The only AMD CPU I ever owned was an Athlon XP. I guess Ryzen will be the next one.
Cooper Hughes
>upgrading? To what? Ryzen? Are you trying to say that Intel has a strange corporate plan that involves empowering their competitior?
Hunter Morgan
There's already patches for the hardware bug in the linux git, an intel employee even tried to have the patch apply to AMD CPUs that don't have the problem but would still be slowed down. It's real.
Lucas Hill
Okay why did I hear people say the issue wouldn't affect I5 2500k ?
Is this true or am I fucked ?
Aiden Cooper
...
Eli Sullivan
You probably are fucked.
Ethan Adams
for fucks sake nigga, normal users like you and me are fine. may encounter a SLIGHT hit. its the datacenter guys that are fucked.
the bug affects everything from westmere forward, possibly reaching as far back as the original pentium III (LOL)
Nolan Rivera
I just hope microsoft won't do that. Are they still married like they were int he 80s and 90s?
Joshua Hill
so what the fuck is going to happen to everyone using Intel CPUs? Are we just all gonna have to say "lmao oh well"? Will there be lawsuits?
Sebastian Lee
Not if you play games a lot, especially 3d games that uses directx as its api. Because if that's the case, you're fucked my friend.
Alexander Williams
If you guys are not gaming or producing music/film on your computers, why do you need high performance?
Asher Turner
No lawsuits. But buy AMD from this point on.
Lincoln Mitchell
>The fix is to separate the kernel's memory completely from user processes using what's called Kernel Page Table Isolation, or KPTI. At one point, Forcefully Unmap Complete Kernel With Interrupt Trampolines, aka FUCKWIT, was mulled by the Linux kernel team, giving you an idea of how annoying this has been for the developers."
My sides, nicely done Linus.
Jeremiah Perez
We 2500k users futureproofed so hard that we're literally invincible, user
No bugs can hurt us.
Aaron Cox
Class action when? I have 8 laptops with Intel cpus sitting in the closet
Christian Jenkins
that's the best acronym ever. "Trampolines"
Adrian Powell
>Every Intel CPU of the last decade affected >AMD CPUs not affected I love this timeline.
Lucas Gomez
Nope, Microsoft has been trying to sniff ARM pantsu for the past 6 years.
John Taylor
We don't know what could happen to frogposters and normalfags using Intel. Datacenter guys are fucked. Really fucked. Of course it would be lawsuits. Nobody likes being scammed by Shlomo.
Charles Collins
Compiling kernels
Jordan Anderson
Big Data will be out for blood, that's for sure. Consumers are probably fucked, as always.
Hunter Stewart
This desu. APUs are finally good with Zen on them it's all I wanted. >yfw future low power Zen 8 core APUs on a laptop
Parker Thomas
Have fun with your stuttering 1080p/4k videos on kiketube.
Aaron Johnson
nothing is going to happen, you won't even notice anything has changed
you're falling for pajeet and AMD FUD over a simple OS patch to fix an exploit
It boggles my mind that people this stupid can be on this board
Blake Thompson
>slight hit only double digits user wait, there are case with multipliers, but those are definitely single digits, like 2 or 3. or 4
If I understand this correctly, the patch to this security bug is to implement an inefficient means for the OS to access data.
Does windows update factor your hardware? The cynic in me is thinking Microsoft will just release a blanket update that affects every machine, regardless of processor.
Sebastian Lewis
that's not a power mac user
Asher Cooper
There will be so many pissed sysadmins giving Intel the boot after this has blown over.
Brayden Perez
Its hilarious how some people think THIS is about the huge ME issue when it's just another major flaw right now lol
Cameron Edwards
If Apple doesn't change to Ryzen with this, then I will lost all my faith in that company. >implying that I have faith in Apple
Hunter Kelly
All those games uses opengl/vulkan. Directx is infamous for being a task switching whore and will be affected for sure.
the update goes out for everyone. your CPU determines if page table seperation will be used or not. If they do it like the linux kernel patch they'll probably enable it until your CPU is on a whitelist. The linux kernel update whitelists all AMD CPUs.
Michael Miller
>AMD finally won
Ayden Reyes
nah this bug is on linux and windows. suck it
William Jones
By then systemd will be the kernel
Jayden Sanchez
i told you guys
things to consider: 1. a proper directx benchmark requires windows (not fucking wine). windows patch isn't out yet.
2. games are not io bound (excluding networking which ill get to in a sec). your game does its main loading of assets typically in the beginning of a level or at startup. some games may stream in level data from disk but again, these are not intensive operations.
networking on the other hand will definitely be affect (on linux at least). functions like send() and recv() (which are what everyone has to use to interface with sockets) are syscalls. these are frequently used. syscalls are affected by this bug in a non trivial manner.
a real gaming benchmark would attempt to test ping / latency while playing online.
Christian Fisher
they need the IGP for notebooks. Probably with the APUs.
Isaac Brooks
Look at the response chain. We have literally nothing to base it off other than the linux patch, which is very unlikely to be exact.
Not that it isn't probably a majority of intel CPUs, it certainly has to be a whole fuckload of them. But we really do not have a way to know, there is no source.
Isaiah Gonzalez
is it still "winning" when the reason is your competitor fucking up?
Christian Martin
its a hardware flaw of every intel processor released in the last decade or so
Isaac King
>All this shit before ryzen 2 launches Fuck, you just know msrp is going to get nudged up now.
Jackson Smith
Now they will start peddling shit again because Intel cucked themselves out of competition.
The Ryzen APUS for notebooks already are released and macOS has Vega drivers. They just have to modify XNU a bit, recompile some apps to use AMD optimizations and they are done.
Jaxson Harris
PRICES RYZING SOON
Aaron Thompson
When your competitor cornered the market with bullshit business practices and then they finally get what's coming to them, yes, that is a win.
Ryder Campbell
Yes, when your opponent was cheating by an amount that would put you in the lead if they had not.
If anything, this means AMD's been winning for a long time, really.
Henry Sullivan
notice: datacenter related companies are CC'd, not gaming or user-centric (like ubuntu).
this patch probably fucks every datacenter over.
Hudson Russell
It's a very specific hardware bug, they probably have that same IP responsible for it copy pasted into every product since they designed it.
Colton Thomas
I still can't manage to find an in stock vega 56 or 64 for a normal price that hasn't been marked up double...
Brandon Sanders
with how it interacts with windows and linux. not macOS you fucking brainlet
Caleb Smith
AMD will be CPU&GPU #1 in 2018
Jeremiah Gutierrez
Yes
Michael Turner
>there's no source
by this point you're evidently in denial user. TSHT real good, there's no stoping it anymore and your hopes for a silent hotfix have been utterly destroyed.
