If you want help: >State the budget & CURRENCY for your build >List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)
CPUs: >NO i5 7500/7600K or i7 7700/K. THEY ARE DEFUNCT AND SUPERSEDED BY COFFEE LAKE >*Avoid intel momentarily: theregister.co.uk/2018/01/02/intel_cpu_design_flaw/ >*G4560/G4600 for non-gaming (light tasks) or bare minimum gaming builds with a dedicated graphics card >R3 1200 - Budget builds (best with OC + fast RAM) >R5 1600 / *i5 8400 - Great gaming (especially the i5 8400) or multithreaded use CPUs (especially the R5 1600) >R7 / *Used Xeon / Threadripper / *i7 - Heavy Multi-Tasking / VM Work / Mixed use
RAM: >Current CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3000-3200 MHz is ideal >Before buying RAM for Ryzen, check your Mobo's QVL or look for user reports
Graphics cards: >Consider Vega 56 for a Freesync monitor >Crypto-Currency miners have driven GPU prices up (particularly Radeon) 1080p >GTX 1050Ti and 3GB 1060 are the only reasonably priced cards; 6GB 1060 or 4GB 580 if you want to overpay a little >GTX 1070 if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 1440p >GTX 1070/Ti and 1080 are standard choices; currently overpriced >GTX 1080Ti if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 2160p (4K) >GTX 1080Ti
General: >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING >A 240GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor
We only hear reports and numbers are all over the place. Gaming looks to be fine though
Eli Allen
what's all this intel ruckus about?
Lucas Perry
I recently got a 4K monitor and I can upgrade my 970 to a 980Ti for $100, should I do it?
Jordan Gray
It was the Jews.
Ryan Sullivan
Is using a TV as a monitor still bad? I like really large screens but monitors over a certain size seem to cost a premium
Logan King
Wait until the patches hit and we'll see how performance is. At that point, you'll know if it's bad or not. You will want to patch though, unfortunately.
Big bad bug lets programs get into the memory of other programs that they shouldn't have access to. Like passwords and private keys and such.
Ryder Nelson
Hi masters, first time building a PC and i would love some help, currently im looking at getting:
Inter Core i5-7400 3.50 GHz H110M-D | Motherboards | ASUS 8GB DDR4 Ram Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1050 Ti D5 4G Cooler Master MPX-5001-ACAAW-US Power Supply
i have 2 questions 1) what do you guys think of that build? 2)what case should i get? i was thinking of Corsair Clear 400C ATX Gaming but i have no idea, i like that one cus it seems easy to clean the dust off
Thank you!
Aaron Reed
>1) No. Read the OP. >2) If it's MAtx (i assume based on mobo model number but you failed to link pcpartpicker link) I recommend the Fractal Define Mini C
Dylan Johnson
Sorry im new to this, il try to make the build on pcpartbuilder and share that link.
Jayden Torres
bump
Nicholas Harris
The fact that your shit cpu is outclassed by a $100 ryzen cpu and a i3 is worse
its like you didn't read the op and have been living under a rock
Isaiah Perry
awful shit build
Jayden Martin
what would you change, how can i make it better?
Justin Barnes
>intel processors have a massive security bug >-30% performance after patch BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA feels good being a genetically/morally superior/godlike ryzen owner
Luis Russell
7500 is shit and obsolete. If you're doing intel do 8th gen but isn't great value for money considering the 8400 (best of the lineup) doesn't have a budget mobo available to complement it. Consider Ryzen especially now given the security flaws in Intel CPUs
Michael Evans
Could I realistically build a pc for 200 dollars or so to just play around with parts and shit to learn proof of concept stuff about hardware? I'm a pretty big tech noob.
Ethan Cruz
just pick up a used HP server for $100
Jaxon Young
>*Avoid intel momentarily >*G4560/G4600 this place is fucking ded
Jack Allen
I just want a computer to throw windows xp on or something to fuck around with.
I don't know how a server works but I can use a laptop.
Ian Nguyen
got it, im gonna start googling 8400 and consider the prices, what do you think of the rest of the build buddy?
Ayden King
>I just want a computer to throw windows xp on >I don't know how a server works but I can use a laptop.
You sound like you haven't even used Windows XP
Easton Nelson
It's been a while, my family computer used to run it like a decade ago.
Aiden Hill
DONT WORRY GUYS GAYMING IS FINE. YOU CAN STILL BUY INTEL
Thomas Bailey
Anyone know what this monitor model is?
Owen Ortiz
Honestly you're prob better off just buying a used business desktop and just putting in a better PSU and a new gpu
is it safe to assume that anyone who bought intel should be removed from the gene pool?
Jeremiah White
>tfw
Xavier Russell
> Bought an I7 7700k on black friday (can return until 1/31) > Read the advice here > Planned to buy i7 8700k instead > Read about the bug issue here
I have had 2 pretty bad AMD processors (6 and 4 years ago) when I was too poor to shill for intel, so I was hoping to get a high end cpu from them this time. What should I do now? When will the patches be live and benchmarked?
Budget is somewhat flexible but I was aiming for $1500-1800. Main uses are heavy minecraft (mods, shaders, server stuff) as well as AAA games like overwatch. I use W10 not linux for an OS if that makes a difference.
What do? I only need cpu, mobo and gpu and I really wanted to finish the build soon.
Brandon Hughes
Neat, I'll look into that type of thing. Thanks.
Chase Taylor
Don't get meme'd Intel is still GOAT
Gavin Green
Buy a ryzen, there was barely a performance difference before, now it's only gonna get worse for intel.
Ryzen was already the better buy. With this shit I no longer see a reason to buy an intel cpu right now.
Henry Richardson
if you absolutely need to build a system after potentially returning your CPU (which you should all things considered) get an R7 given your budget or R5 if you just do gaming and no streaming/rendering. But if you can Wait(tm) between returning your 7700k and when Ryzen+/2 comes out then do that instead. Or get a processor+mobo now and just return the processor and get a zen2 that will still work with your AM4 mobo
Hudson Howard
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Josiah Williams
why is it so hard to find a copy of Win7 to buy >because its two OS's out of date I know that but still, why doesn't michaelshaft fucking sell it
No point in buying that when an old prebuilt with a 1060 would be much better This is also quite a bit better
John Kelly
No. Imo at that price point you are better off searching around in your local area to find some used business desktop with an i5 2nd gen or beyond. Than put in a 400~500w PSU and put in a graphics card. It will perform better than what ever you can get for $500 brand new
Justin Collins
Would go with this
Jason Bell
What are some good speakers in the 50$ price range ? Preferably if there's some good sales on some high-end ones.
Hunter Ramirez
If you absolutely want everything brand new than yeah this is prob your best bet
Charles Morgan
Corsair K55 RGB for $65 or Logitech G213 Prodigy for $52?
Wyatt King
Unless somebody else tells you, you will have to do some of your own research because benchmarks on this don't really exist. It's easy to talk CPU IPC but speakers are subjective. Here is what PCPartPicker lists around that range, so check in on these. pcpartpicker.com/products/speakers/#X=3081,6000
Jace Wood
>40 new $100 DDR4 3000MHz 2x4GB at local store sold out in less than 3 hours.
Ian Ward
Dell U2717DA
David Gutierrez
What's the most I should spend on a GTX1080?
Carter Thompson
0$
Michael Hall
What's the best place to buy notebooks online in Israel?
Owen Garcia
what is the most reliable way to get Windows 7 without buying it from some dodgy bloke on ebay?
Elijah Rodriguez
Judging just by looks, they are around the same. Both have wrist wrests and media keys. What are those prices though? I see them both on Amazon for under $50.
Noah Bell
I am reading that gaming isn't necessarily affected by this. I have a 144hz monitor, and most videos seem to point to intel for high fps gaming. I also have DDR4 3200 RAM already, does that make any difference?
I guess for now I'll wait for the fallout and see if the patches really do decrease performance by 30%, or if everyone is overreacting.
Ryan Cook
I'm not from the US.
Eli King
MSRP is $500 so I would not spend past $540. Your choices are either to get scammed by a kike or stoned by a Palestinian You can buy OEM on Kinguin but that is bound to your motherboard or you can buy full version for a shit ton of money
Julian Rogers
It's best to disclose that Anyway they should be roughly equal so play it based off of looks or whatever
Jayden Ortiz
Funny because that is an awful deal
Camden Williams
Yeah just wait until we know the whole story
Jonathan Moore
anyone get their Talos II stuff yet? this whole intel bullshit and all the botnet that is x86 has convinced me to move on.
Colton Butler
If you are not sure search "Dell bezelless display"
Jonathan Bennett
>I am reading that gaming isn't necessarily affected by this. Probably intel shill shit. It's 30% less performance minimum. Gaming is more gpu intensive than cpu intensive but that just means that in the game you are playing your cpu wasn't a bottleneck if it didn't have a performance hit. The only way you don't notice the performance hit while using your computer is if you spend twice the money on your cpu. Why do you want to buy intel so badly that you are willing to pay extra money for a product that is know going to be about half as powerful as the amd equivalent in the same price range?
Kevin Scott
Really? Cause it seems like an okay deal to me. Everything with same specs on PCPartPicker is above $100, and these were Vengeance LPX, and not even counting I am not from the US, so import taxes would make this even more expensive.
Kayden Collins
why do girls always cheat on intel guys with amd guys??
Samuel King
anything else I should change? I swapped the ram to make it cheaper
>intel they already have the cpu and gpu from an old build
Sebastian Torres
What's your monitor?
Nathan Cook
I like Asrock motherboards. Should be much cheaper than that one too. When I was shopping for my ddr4 ram I read a lot of negative reviews on the Corsair review pages about DOA units and some which immediately broke. Of course I ended up spending about 30 dollars extra to get something with better reviews so I guess you can probably just take that risk but it bothered me.
Nicholas Reyes
If you were in the US it would be overpriced by like $10, and if prices were normal it should be a lot less.
Building a computer for the first time, plan on using it for gaming + streaming. I've heard your not suppose to use liquid cooling with ryzen. Anyone know if I should make any changes or is it fine as is? pcpartpicker.com/list/YdkQjc
Gavin Ramirez
>gaymen headphones No.
Eli Roberts
What are your priorities? Gaming at high frame rates? Color depth? Viewing Angle? I've been shopping around for a hfr, 8-bit IPS personally and this panel keeps coming up. Linus did an unboxxing of it recently. >ebay.com/itm/322833493048
thanks for the heads up, I'll look for an asrock mobo and research some ram alternatives
Ryan Morgan
1600X and a cooler is a waste of money when you only have a 1060. Same goes for a 144hz monitor, since you'll never hit that. I haven't heard good things about Gigabyte's B350 VRMs. 2133 memory is slow and for $4 or so more you could get 3000 Consider a better PSU Send me the list and I could make a better 1070/Ti build
Kayden Wright
>1050Ti >4 GB What's your usecase? What resolution to do you plan on gaming at? Consider getting a cheap used PC off ebay with a haswell quad core and spending most of your funds on a decent GPU like a 1060 3GB or 1070.
Jace Ramirez
>tfw Ryzen 1200/HD 6670
Julian Brown
You can't freesync with a 970 (or any Geforce card for that matter)
Connor Baker
Delet 1600x and cooler, get 1600 (has free cooler) Delet windows 10 (just buy a legit key from kinguin) Delet gayman headphones Delet 1060, add savings from above, and a couple extra bucks, and get cheapest 1080 you can get.
David Green
That is expense for a high end z170 board today. You can probably get a used one for
Dominic King
Ye linux looks fucked. I hope it isnt this bad for mac
Kevin Anderson
If you're looking at 1080s, may as well get a 1070Ti and OC if needed.
I was just about to buy an i7-8700K before this CPU thing went down. Now I want to hold off on that until I know more.
But in the meantime, now that I'm unsure about my CPU, what other parts can safely be purchased? I was going to get an ASUS Prime Z370-A motherboard, but that's designed for Intel, so I guess I have to hold off on that too. RAM should be fine to get now, right?
Ryan Nguyen
Yes, basically everything else can be safely bought.
