What do ex-east germans think of soviet union and russia? are they butthurt?

what do ex-east germans think of soviet union and russia? are they butthurt?

Why Korean/Chinese specially love hearing others' pathetic history?

because we are still devided and i want to know about east germany

divided* and ive heard it east germany and north korea were quite friendly

People who already lived at the end of war hate nothing more than Russians.

My grandmother grew up in a town that is now Polish and she was relocated to Saxony. She holds no grudges against the Polish whatsoever (she even visited the family that lives in her house now), she says it was all the Russians' fault.

Except for people who want the wall back up, nobody will tell you anything good about Russians.

>she says it was all the Russians' fault.
No the fault was hers for voting and supporting a madman. The Russians had the right to genocide and expel you fuckheads.

This. My grandmother lived in East Prussia, just next to Danzig from 31'-45'. She was about 14 when she was forced to move to the west. She doesn't hate the Poles, but she despises the Russians with a passion for de-facto ethnically cleansing Germans from their native land

With the knowledge of 1933, voting for Hitler isn't more reprehensible than voting for Mussolini, Luigi.

Basically noone likes Russia in Germany, I also had/have some ex-east Germans in my family, they don't like the either

Most people I know are neutral towards russia. They are better than turks, I think everyone will agree to this if you ask them.

Why haven't you bought you or your family grandma her house back? Do you even care about your ancestral home?

Fuck, at least some of the germans get it right.

Are you German or English ?

If I remember correctly, the family now living there offered her to move back in. But she had already married a guy from Saxony (my grandfather) so she declined.

My grandparents lived next to Stettin, their house also still exists. We visited it once, and it's probably the only time I've seen my grandmother cry, and also the only time I've seen a Polish woman trying to help her. The family that lives there now seems to be there since the end of war, so I guess there was some connection between them. Nobody here in my family hates the Poles either, after all they didn't do shit against us since it all came from the subhuman Russians.

I'm English, my Grandmother married a British army officer based in Germany in the 50s and then moved back to England.

>The Russians had the right to genocide and expel you fuckheads.
Pretty much this. 40 years of shitty economic policy is absolutely nothing compared to what g*rmans did here.

we are grateful that Soviet Union allowed the reunification of Germany.
We still keep the soviet war memorial in good shape unlike the butthurt eastern europeans

forgot pic

*monument of the unknown rapist

>We still keep the soviet war memorial in good shape
Of course. Every cuck wears his cuckstamp with pride

Shut up, Russiaboo. If we're gonna suck up to someone, I'd choose the Americans. At least there's some form of connection to them due to German immigration into the US and they were actually pretty lenient with us as far as post-war treatment goes.

>cuck cuck cuck
this meme is funny on 4chin, but when a country behaves like this in real life, its really embarassing

The only crime germans committed was losing the war and not finishing the job of exterminating russians and jews tbqh

A bit off-topic, but is it true that West Germans look down on East Germans? If so, to what degree?

Do you mean those who lived in the GDR or those who were deported from the now Polish and Russian terriroties?

Yeah, my country doesn't put up monuments of it's conquerors.

this

We were not conquerors, but liberators. Know the difference.

Some do, some don't, some more, some less.
There has been a case here where an applicant was denied a job because he was an Ossi, it got quite a bit media attention and a court ruled against the employer.

>At least there's some form of connection to them due to German immigration into the US
There is also connection to Russia with all the Germans immigration to Russia in 17th century and bringing German culture to them

>and they were actually pretty lenient with us as far as post-war treatment goes.
Because it served their interesest. If it would benefit them, they would drop us without a second thought.
I think Germany shouldn't suck up to anybody, instead we should have friendly relationship with other countries while creating a strong souvereign EU empire

>r*ssians actually believe this

You were both at the same time, Vlad

I dunno about you, but I think destruction of historic monuments because of butthurt is a bad thing

...

>There is also connection to Russia with all the Germans immigration to Russia in 17th century and bringing German culture to them
There was until ethnic Germans were gulag'd and expelled

Your grandpas sure did liberated a lot of little girls of their hymens :^)

...

oh gee, maybe it had something to do with Hitlers foreign policies?

ayy

>we should have friendly relationship with other countries while creating a strong souvereign EU empire
we won't let you

its not up to you anymore, you left

Regardless of our history they're turbo subhumans.

you think it is over, just because we have left? The game has just begun

East Germans tend more to be pro-Russian than westerners. For example, 48% of them say Crimea should be accepted as a part of Russia, compared to 40% who say it is a part of Ukraine. In West Germany those numbers are 37% and 50% respectively.

>Germans who already lived in Russia way before Hitler came into power
Eh

you have zero influence within the EU
How exactly are you gonna stop futher integration?

the same we always influenced Europe before the EU my friend

...

Is it just a bad case of stockholm syndrome or are they just russians pretending to be germans?

you mean back when you were an empire where the sun never sets?
I dunno if you get the memo, but you only a shitty island now. Or half an island, after Scotland leaves

are you forgettin how German minorities in other contries like czechoslovakia served as a justification for invasion and also supported Hitlers policy?

Can you please quit? The EU is a complete shitshow. Unless we're seeing major reforms within the next few years the whole thing is gonna collapse in the next few years and we'll be better for it.
The EU parliament is a joke, all of the important decisions are made by ministers, members of the executive effectively.

lol butthurt

how am I butthurt?
We are building an Empire and there is nothing you can do to stop us

Please point out, what is so bad about the EU?

Friendship between GDR and Soviet Union

>The EU parliament is a joke, all of the important decisions are made by ministers, members of the executive effectively.
There you go.

I thought friendships were supposed to be mutually consenting.

>he thinks the rest of Europe will let Germany get away with it
Your success is only temporary, much like many other times throughout history. If you think you can beat the eternal Anglo, you are dearly wrong.

>We are building an Empire

Building a Caliphate more like

how is this a bad thing?
The ministers and the heads of states are the represenatitves of their respective country and were appointed by a democratic process

Oh c'mon guys, we're good nao
:^)

>he thinks the rest of Europe will let Germany get away with it
Having a strong European state is in the best interest of all EU member states, especially the small ones

That's what the commies propagated .There are still many Russiaboos in the east

For now, maybe. What Germany chooses to do with it's power remains to be seen.

>Oh, poor germans were ethnically cleansed from their comfy ancestral lands
What the fuck did your filthy ancestors were doing in Stalingrad then? Losr while bike trip? I never could understand why the whole easteen Germany wasn't genocided.

I actually see nothing wrong with this. Finns and other untermenschen had had to be inbred by strong Russian genes

If they are subhumans then you are the ones that got beaten, raped and puppeted by subhumans kraut

So what? Their daughters were already killed by germans and their cities were destroyed.

Actually, in a federal EU, Germany would held less power than it does now
And some decisions like welcoming the refugees wouldn't be so easy because of eastern european resistance

>voluntarily giving up power

this way, we dont have to be germans anymore and be ashamed of our past
we can be europeans and nobdy can blame us of beeing nazi

>We were not conquerors, but liberators. Know the difference.

WATCH OUT REASONABLE COMMENT PASSING THROUGH

Depends on how old they are.

If they witnessed the 2. World War they would probably have some grudges.

If they grew up in the GDR they could tend to either dislike or like

I have found that both eastern german leftists (socialists, communists) and rights (patriotic, nationalist) tend to like Russia.

Keep in mind that a lot of people primarily dislike the current regime. Also, to be honest: Like most westerners, germans know just stereotypes and whats being portrayed in the media and have no hands on experience.

My parents are from GDR and studied in Leningrad in the 80s. While love russian culture, they have mixed feelings about the political situation.

In german nationalist-conservative circles people still hold a grudge about Königsberg. I can understand it, it used to be one of the most important cities for german history. At the other hand I don't think there can be much about it; there are no germans living there anymore. Also, getting back that land would not change the fact that Germany is fucked up internally.

Why not blaming yourself for invading in USSR?
heh

Too bad the only thing they managed to fertilize was plants :^)

Russians insisted we have to in the 4+2 treaty.

They were not elected though. How are we supposed to now according to which process ministers are determined?

The EU is just missing a concept of checks and balances

In that case, would it be reasonable for Poland and the Baltics to genocide Russia?

Russians should've raped the Germans even more, they deserve it for invading my country and forcefully annexing it.

30000 finns were slaughtered there either, thousands lost their homes and you are still making fun of it.

Hitler stop

the heads of states of European countries were elected by the citizens of their respective country

We didn't genocide them. The few were gulaged, that's it. And what had we do with them? Loose few millions soldiers to fight germans there and then just leave them? They would still hate us and we needed the buffer between americans and us.

Think it twice before choosing America, our lands are filled with buffalos, eagles and foxes. Europeans got little french fucks singing and irish savages instead.

Hitler had to go to Germany to get elected, we didn't want him in the first place

They were just there on holiday, Germany had nothing to do with that.

didnt you like vote for Anschluss or something?

Why would anyone like Russian culture? were your parents brainwashed or something?

90,000 dead or missing finnish soldiers is a small price to pay for the 450,000 dead or missing soviet soldiers cleaned off the face of the earth, not even counting the hundreds of thousands of ryssäs who never walked again after the war.

Shame about the lost territories, they used to be one of the most beautiful areas in all of funland before ryssä got their hands on them. Not anymore.

Don't worry though, finns are just waiting for any signs of weakness to take back karelia. After all we've got all the time in the world to wait.

whats so bad about russian culture?
you know that communism is not the same as russian culture, right?
In fact, communists tried to kill russian culture or the culture of any communist country for that matter

you're trying too hard to be edgy m8

Even finnish sources tell no more than 350 000 of dead and missing when declassified in 90's soviet sources counted less than 200 000. I realize that this is basically the only event in finnish history so it is mythicalized heavily but be realist. You lost the war and after the big war were politically castrated and now you are nothing more than just minor EU country.

>whats so bad about russian culture?
Drinking, smoking, rudeness, iconography, dashcams, lack of work ethic, homophobia, antisocial behaviour, the list goes on. Russians are the niggers of white people.

>Drinking, smoking, rudeness, dashcams, lack of work ethic, homophobia, antisocial behaviour
thats not russian culture, thats a side effect of beeing poor and corrupt

Why is it that people who now absolutely nothing about Russia hate it the most?

Yeah, Rakhmaninov was a drunkard who took part in road violence and was constantly injecting krokodile while beating his life and Tsiolkovskiy definitely was a hobo. It ofc can't be compared to glorious icelandic culture of mud huts and whale hinting.

>still being butthurt about Stalingrad
Wew lad. If I had a dollar for everytime we are butthurt about Dresden or any other destroyed German city I would have zero dollars.

And being poor and corrupt is a result of stupidity and sloth. If the Russians had a work ethic and were willing to educate themselves like us, they might've made something of themselves. Instead they decided to become a second-world shithole.
They weren't mud, they were stone and wood, with turf ceilings. And at least we weren't serfs like you

There were more rich feudals in Russia than the whole population of Iceland in any time. You are nothing more than 1 city so isolated from the rest of the world it wasn't touched by any war and got independence. My suburb city is half of your country. Comparing Russia and Iceland is like comparing a lion and some muscle or skin cell in his anus.
27 mln people died. Only 13mln of them were soldiers. You killed more soviet citizens than lost men at all. Dresden was just an easy punch compared to what you did.