I switched from a Nexus 5 to an iPhone 7 plus a few months ago and I have to say it's been quite a blessing to have been pushed away from the 3.5mm headphone jack. I upgraded to a nice set of LG bluetooth earbuds that last around 11-12 hours of constant use(I work 10 hour shifts and work and wear them all day) and I bought myself a decent low-mid end set of bluetooth compatible bookshelf speakers for home. Now I'm not sure if I could ever go back.
So my question to all of you is why the resistance? Do you really NEED the heaphone jack that badly? Yeah, it's like pulling off a bandaid, but once you get it over with it's done. Once the pain dissipates you can rest easy knowing you're better off without all those damned wires that always get tangled up in everything.
Just make the switch Sup Forums. It's worth it.
Ian Harris
>Do you really NEED the heaphone jack that badly Yes. Because my headphones are not poorfag-tier.
Anthony Rivera
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Mason Brown
not op if you listen to your phone with hi-fi headphones i've got news for you buddy: you might have the 'tism.
Ethan Hernandez
>my headphones are not poorfag-tier if that's the case, then why aren't you using an external dac/amp anyway? What's the point in using hifi cans on a factory 3.5mm jack?
Jason Wilson
>the removal of an option is an improvement
Hudson Lopez
the future is now, old man
Jason Russell
>thinking autism is an insult here
Parker Mitchell
>cans I'm using ultra-sensitive IEMs. External DACs are simply too powerful and noisy. Even my phone's amp maxes them out at 50% volume.
Carter Torres
>removal of options is "the future" I swear you fucking faggots will pray to your fruity god even when they remove such useless things like the screen or loudspeaker from your toys
Eli Russell
>using bluetooth headphones when his phone doesn't even support LDAC >nice set of LG bluetooth earbuds
Carson Kelly
Enjoy your sucky audio. You having no interest in enjoying music doesn't mean that we don't.
Some people want to listen to music with good headphones or send the audio to another device that doesn't have Bluetooth. Some want better battery life or not having to charge yet another device. If you want anything like these you need a jack.
Another form factor for an analog output would be fine to me too. You can solder your own plugs on your favorite headphones. To bad it's not about space, but putting music into another walled garden.
Jonathan James
So the future is worse and you're okay with that? Fukken kids gonna sell them selves out and not even know it.
Juan Lewis
removal of options isn't the future per se, but about pushing you out of your comfort zone into new spaces with new tech that will make life more convenient.
>using a phone's built in dac >not liking sucky audio it's like everyone in here who complains about this stuff is just larping and doesn't actually give a damn about anything they post
Luke Ortiz
>Once the pain dissipates you can rest easy I always knew applefags are LITERALLY fags.
Nathaniel Wright
>have to charge headphones >convenient
Robert Bailey
That's some wacky euphemisms for anal sex you got there, op.
Adrian White
U idiots will argue over anything
Cameron Morgan
We just had this thread a week ago. Go away.
Joseph Brown
How many levels of post-purchase rationalization are you on, OP?
Christian Rogers
I will argue over stuff that's fine but taken away for no reason without an alternative any day.
No, BT is not an alternative way of transmitting analog audio. BT is an alternative to Wi-Fi.
Hudson Green
>Now I'm not sure if I could ever go back. >Yeah, it's like pulling off a bandaid >once you get it over with it's done. >Once the pain dissipates you can rest easy
Alexander Hughes
>be Sup Forums >have $400 headphones >listen to poopy 192kbps streaming service >use built in dac on your phone
>>have to charge headphones How long do you listen to your headphones? Because I've seen some that last up to 26 hours of continuous use. If you aren't near a wall outlet once every 26 hours then I would suggest you get your life in order and find a better career.
Henry Torres
blueshit sucks ass.
Christopher Mitchell
>BT is not an alternative way of transmitting analog audio except it is
Ian Mitchell
>I've seen some that last up to 26 hours Yet most of them last only 4 hours. Only low-power crap lasts any tolerable time.
Jaxson Phillips
No it's not. BT cannot transmit analog audio.
Jackson Cruz
>26 hours
You have never actually experienced a 26 hour battery life on headphones. And never will that happen ever. Anyone telling your they did are lying or suck at estimates. In reality it will be 5-10 hours.
Luis Martin
I don't care what battery is like for most of them. Like I said in the OP I work 10 hour shifts and I routinely have 40-50% battery left on my (non-shit)earbuds at the end of my shift. They're plenty loud enough as well, seeing how I work in a machine shop.
by this logic, nor can a phone output analog audio.
Sebastian Diaz
>by this logic, nor can a phone output analog audio. Are you legit retarded or what?
Jason Reed
I wish I could hat mad about the headphone jack thing but after so many years of buying wired headphones and the cable fucking up within 6 months I finally caved and got Bluetooth ones and I'm never looking back.
Kayden Parker
*get mad
Gabriel Torres
>by this logic, nor can a phone output analog audio. The Jack port outputs an analog signal, fa.m I hope I don't have to explain that to you.
Evan Howard
>by this logic, nor can a phone output analog audio. YOUR phone can't - it has a DAC in the dongle. Other phones can. Look up what DAC stands for, by the way.
Parker Green
Mine has almost dead battery, lasts about an hour or so so I carry small powerbank with me.
Also I can't find replacement battery, it's 80mAh cylindrical li-ion battery, there's one site that has it listed for like $3 but it's not in stock.
Still prefer BT over wires tho.
Austin Barnes
>requires recharging >not tethered so they fall on the ground in faeces >compression of compressed signal >cost more >>good
Connor Morales
Technically wired headphones require charging all the time you're using them since they don't have their own power source.
Anthony Gomez
> getting rid of old technology is the same as introducing new technology (Hey, Apple!) It's not. BT was there before (199X+). You had the option to choose either before they killed the 3.5mm. You just needed corporate pressure to change your opinion. And now you don't have the option anymore. > i'm sure corporations work to the best of my interest Once you really won't have much of an option anymore (you could still buy a device that still has 3.5mm), they'll introduce DRM again. > bluetooth is even remotely acceptable It's not. BT was always kludgy and fidgety shit.
Why don't you just fuck right off my Sup Forums?
Henry Price
>they don't have their own power source. technically there's nothing to charge then
Jose Ross
>requires recharging so? What use case is there for listening to something for 8+ hours and not being able to plug in after that? >fall on ground not unless you have tourettes >compression we don't all need crystal clear FLACs of Kanye's latest abortion >cost more Worth it for the lower end models
Brandon Jenkins
Please to explain to me how I'm wrong.
Data being transmitted over a wireless signal to a receiver in a bluetooth headset, then promptly converted to analog in a bluetooth headset's dac is in no way different from a wired signal doing the exact same thing.
data>built in phone dac>headphone jack>shitty car speakers
it's the same fucking thing. Hence what I said before. If a bluetooth signal isn't "analog" then neither is listening to memecore through spotify on your galaxy s5.
Lucas Sanders
You have answered your own question. Not my fault you can't even comprehend what you wrote.
Dylan Reed
Holy shit talk about Stockholm syndrome.
Joshua Young
There's one more compression step but this is just really the thing of shitty implementation.
BT as standard can send unaltered stream for example mp3 or flac to headphones and all decoding could be done in headphones it's just that no one implemented (to my knowledge) that yet.
Christopher Diaz
>Worth it for the lower end models On the lower end models all the required electronics constitutes the major part of the cost, so they have to put the absolute shittiest speakers to be competitive. And high-end models are limited by bluetooth itself. Bluetooth headphones are not worth it at any range.
Angel Moore
So you just want to use your phone's built in dac because reasons. Got it.
I doubt people would implement that in a headphone. It would have too high a bitrate and just eat away at the battery far too much. That would be much better suited for a home audio setup.
Carson Gray
>BT as standard can send unaltered stream for example mp3 or flac to headphones Not nearly enough bandwidth.
Jaxon Thompson
>Bluetooth headphones are not worth it at any range. You ignored the mid-range. The nice happy medium that 99% of the human population is comfortable with. Bluetooth is perfectly fine for a mid-range setup.
Carter Myers
BT is 2mbit.
I'm using it to tether internet connection from phone to laptop and it's fast enough.
Lincoln Roberts
This is what I get with my ancient Panasonic laptop.
[ 4] local 192.168.44.194 port 49550 connected to 192.168.44.1 port 5201 [ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth [ 4] 0.00-10.02 sec 1.62 MBytes 1.36 Mbits/sec
Still plenty fast for any kind of audio.
Mason Gomez
>Still plenty fast for any kind of audio. Definitely fast enough for the few 192000Hz flacs I have. They max out at around 5600-5700kbps.
Jackson Perry
>recharging headphones every day cuck
Parker Morris
Are there at least dual-driver BA bluetooth headphones? If not, it's not an option to me.
Daniel Allen
>help me justify my shitty buy: the post Sorry senpai, but there is literally no reason to remove a feature just to make something thinner. I mean, whats the usefulness of a phone being thin anyways? Much less than a headphone jack, obviously.
Ryan Bennett
Or you could listen to bluetooth headphones on a phone with a headphone jack! In better quality than on iphones too!
Luke Long
You'll have to wait for invention of machine-brain interface to fully enjoy these.
Kayden Nelson
Actually high sample rates simply move all quantization artifacts to ultrasound range so you DON'T hear them.
Leo Rivera
just buy 2-3 pairs of bluetooth headphones
stop being poor
Caleb Ramirez
>charging earphones I refuse to do it. I will not fall into this nigger-tier meme.