Linus Torvalds's rudeness

Why do some people, especially Silicon Valley SJW types in the recent years, say that Linus is "abusive"? He gets pretty rude, sure, but what he tells you is that your code sucks and you should do fucking better; he does not tell you that you are a worthless cunt and should kys, etc. He is harsh towards code, companies, and groups of people, but he never resorts to character assassination and never harasses individuals.

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If Linus wasn't there to flame people, then code like this would end up in the kernel

He isn't really rude as he is a wake-up call. People need to start looking past the PR bullshit that companies spew forth just to cover their asses and to really start attacking the root problems of the tech industry.

I don't know man
but for some strange reason, talented people always have some unusual personality
should just deal with it

>your code sucks and you should do fucking better
That goes against everything the post-modernist society stands for.

What's funny is that the same Silicon Valley is home to autists who actually do engage in personal attacks and justify their behavior by comparing themselves to Torvalds.

Good

Linus is SJW as fuck himself though

Amerisoys can't deal with any form of criticism

Which kernel?

Justify your claim.

The cillicon valley cuck SJW's need to GTFO.

The most free software comes from Europe now

>KDE
Check
>Opensuse
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>Linux Kernel
Check

How will China ever recover?

He's lucky he doesn't have a boss because no workplace would tolerate that attitude.

Linux' problem is that he can't grasp a simple fact: people, even very experienced people, make very bad and silly mistakes. He berates people that make errors that result in userspace applications not functioning.

Meanwhile, pilots who have by their error crashed planes and killed passengers are not berated by their colleagues.

He needs self restraint.

He's a leftist born to commie parents

Ignore the "op" in name I'm not op, set from previous thread

The (You)nix kernel

>linux'
Linux is a kernel, not a person, it's 'it' not 'he'

I meant Linus, sorry, phonefag here

He gets the job done, which is more than I can say for pussies like you.

If you can't stand the heat you should get out of the kitchen faggot.

HR type feel people like you need to fuck off already. I work in corporate mid to upper management level, and I am sick and tired of the feminine shit these days. Either deliver of fuck off to some lower tier job FFS.

>Why do some people, especially Silicon Valley SJW types in the recent years, say that Linus is "abusive"?
Some burgers can't deal with talking like adults, which includes swearing and generally not being nice and the like in circumstances that call for it.

The proposal seems to be that you gently suck each other's dick even when you argue, in order to avoid upsetting each other's brittle ego. Or some such.

Either way, it's ridiculous, fuck these snowflakes. Linus is usually right to swear because he does it almost entirely about someone fucking up on technical issues.

>The most free software comes from Europe now
Nah, most free software is libraries, not desktop shit. If we're talking libraries on GitHub, SourceForge, BitBucket, etc., America still rules.

P.S.: openSUSE is okay, but KDE sucks. It's a buggy mess with bad UX.

He's not SJW. He's sincere, direct, efficient, and doesn't put people's feelings before truth. Now he can be lefty but unlike what you seem to believe, that doesn't translate into SJW.

How is he a leftist?

At the end of the day, if you want to get paid then treat others with respect.

Assholes like you are usually very narrow minded. Linus just does kernel work and manages a project of volunteers

Look at the retention rates at companies with/without staff disciplinary conduct rules, convert that to dollars, and until you do that fuck off back to the basement

You obviously have not been at the higher echelons of big companies, trust me it is a battlefield with political fights everywhere.

fuck off niggerfaggot

you certainly haven't. Huge difference between passive aggressiveness and "you're fucking incompetent"

What goes on in boardrooms, I don't know, but then again neither do you.

> manages a project of volunteers
> volunteers
No, most prolific contributors are paid by their companies. It's their job.

> t. faggot

unapologetic white male

You neither, because you'd know that actually one of the most bothersome aspects of being somewhere there is that you have a shitload of underlings that have kindergarten-tier people issues below you.

>At the end of the day, if you want to get paid then treat others with respect
it isn't always this black and white, a lot of the time there is a guy named dick cuntson that will go around just to fuck with your day, the moral is to say shit to people(if they aren't higher ups) who talk shit about you.

kneeling and sucking dicks just makes you look easier for bosses to fuck around with and ironically makes them disrespect you

Because he can into pic related better than most

well on some jobs(like a kernel programmer) are so difficult to fill that they probably will just say: "omg you shouldn't talk like that" or some other shit.

It mainly comes down to how easily are you replaced, and there aren't many people who can do what he does

Anyone got good examples of him btfo'ing others code?

Linus does respect people.

He votes democratic

Nobody gave a shit when Jobs or Gates were throwing hissy fits. Jobs is notorious for his tantrums and Gates gave a lot of shit to shitty programmers.

because womym, pocs, and minorities cant code for shit and stating that their "code" speghetti+"stackexchange copypasta" abortion is a piecie of shit is a direct attack on and a complication for the inclusion of noskill hacks in real workplaces.
They would rather cause the world to burn by making 1 million more yahoos than they would hire a fucking white male.

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>He berates people that make errors that result in userspace applications not functioning.
Not true at all. He berates people who consciously choose to accept breaking userspace applications as an acceptable cost of development. Which is completely utterly different.

Jobs, Gates and Linus are important enough that they get to do that. The problem is bosses wanting to act like them without the background to back them up.

Their attitudes aren't something that could work on your average company, because most don't have talented people lining up to put up with that kind of shit for the sake of their careers.

He is [verbally] abusive. Check some of the e-mails that he has sent. It isn't for a personal reason, obviously, but his verbal abuse targets the person more than the code.

Personal attacks are really abusive.

SJWs absorbed the American left long ago, though. It's a distinction without a difference.

True, Linus isn't American, but nobody in the US cares about that.

you mean those "werks on my machine, not a bug, ticket closed" "developers"
and/or those "my program is made up of a million different webdev memes, and you have to use all of these 3rd level unrelated bullshits to run my program even start up, all of which are ultimatly using systemd to start but you cant use systemd directly" *some shit in level 2 breaks* "dont file complaints unless its directly with my product. Any issues with libraries or 3rd party programs will not be supported"

>He is harsh towards code, companies, and groups of people, but he never resorts to character assassination and never harasses individual
Has Linus been harasses'd?

you're retarded.

No, I'm not. The economic left you're thinking of is dead in America, if you still support it for some reason you really should move.

you are literally wrong.

>Yes. And I do it partly (mostly) because it's who I am, and partly because I honestly despise being subtle or "nice".

The fact is, people need to know what my position on things are. And I can't just say "please don't do that", because people won't listen. I say "On the internet, nobody can hear you being subtle," and I mean it.

And I definitely am not willing to string people along, either. I've had that happen too—not telling people clearly enough that I don't like their approach, they go on to re-architect something, and get really upset when I am then not willing to take their work.

Sarah, first off, I don't have that many tools at hand. Secondly, I simply don't believe in being polite or politically correct. And you can point at all those cultural factors where some cultures are not happy with confrontation (and feel free to make it about gender too—I think that's almost entirely cultural too). And please bring up "cultural sensitivity" while at it. And I'll give you back that same "cultural sensitivity". Please be sensitive to _my_ culture too.

Stop making assumptions about me and making mental gymnastics to justify your mistakes. Just stop posting and breathe in the lotus position until you understand what SJW means, what the context is and why under no circumstances it could apply to the man the thread is about.

"He votes" would have been enough.

being acknowledged by gates, jobs, or torvalds would be enough for me desu

Stop projecting. It's embarrassing.

>Mauro, SHUT THE FUCK UP!
>Shut up, Mauro. And I don't _ever_ want to hear that kind of obvious
garbage and idiocy from a kernel maintainer again. Seriously.
lmao savage

>minorities
*Non-Asian minorities

SJWs hate Linus, as a male authority figure who's not a doormat he's a prime target, so far he's managed to avoid a false sexual harassment claim typical of an SJW power grab

Get your art education shitlord we are in whats called a post post modern society.

>a false sexual harassment claim
you won't since the kind of power he wields is less "sleep with me to star in this movie" and more "hey everyone look at this shit code don't be like this m'kay"
inb4 during 2018 a woman will claim she exchanged sex for kernel commits

it'll be less exchanged sex and more vague tweets about "he tried to get me drunk X years ago" there's a reason he has an escort at conferences

>P.S.: openSUSE is okay, but KDE sucks. It's a buggy mess with bad UX.
KDE is still the only good "fat" DE though. Not everyone wants to spend the time getting xfce work like they want (or put up with its defaults), not to mention deal with tiling WMs or shit like that.
>inb4 gnome
H A R D D E P E N D E N C Y

> an escort at conferences
Does his wife mind?

>KDE is still the only good "fat" DE though.
MATE, mate.

wonder if he has concealed sousveillance devices
any sensible rich person with a reputation would be crazy not to in [current year]

Oh yeah good point

they don't want favors they want him gone and replaced with someone SJW friendly who will replace meritocracy with a CoC and install them as the community managers who enforce it

>sousveillance
Now there is a thing that Sup Forums doesn't talk nearly enough about. If privacy is dead, we might at least get something out of it.

haha, he point finger
i like this dude, very cool

>He's lucky he doesn't have a boss because no workplace would tolerate that attitude.

That kind of behaviour isn't uncommon in most sectors. IT seems to be the only one where you're expected to act like a total pussy and respect everyone's boundaries, especially in the states. The IT sector is quite in need of some balls-of-steel folks pull up the quality standards for once, because these curryniggers and white-knight beta shitlords are fucking everything up.

He is married to this qt why would he need an escort

For the same reason there are so many websites filled with unreadable pastel colors and endless white space.

It's full with low-T soyboy faggots.

linus tries to be kind, but if the idiot repeats its mistakes and doesn't care, then he flames. don't be douche.

fun fact: his father nils torvalds is now running for president in our country.

their daughter

11/10 would hit

Aww, she's got her mother's fivehead.

Much better than Mum.
Does he have a chance? Does he mention Linus in his campaign?

He triggers NVidia Fags & SJWs

youtube.com/watch?v=_36yNWw_07g
>So NVIDIA fuck you

fun fact: you burgers have no idea what leftism is, your sassy faggot generation of liberals may think they are leftist but they are bunch of uneducated faggots that have no empathy towards workers or have never been near a working class slaves. They are just bunch of sassy faggots paid by their parents for college, have no idea what "hard times" is, only thing they know about socialism is Marx. I hate your fucking country and people with corrupted ideologies, both right and "left" wings.

Is he good at coding? Who's better, he or Stallman?

Stallman never made a kernel for his OS userspace utilities so...

Why doesn't Sup Forums worship him instead, then?

I mean he got so excited about Intel 8th Feb + Vega at CES I can deal with him.

>Silicon Valley SJW types in the recent years, say that Linus is "abusive"?

Because they have been trained to create victim hood and exploit peoples reaction to it. Step one is to make themselves victims.

>Meanwhile, pilots who have by their error crashed planes and killed passengers are not berated by their colleagues.

Because the ground has already shown them the error of their ways.

Being /leftypol/ must be suffering. It's like being genuinely into fixies, flannel shirts, elaborate facial hair styles and urban beekeeping when everybody around you is a hipster.

What do you expect? It takes a special form of autism to dedicated your life to a kernel.

Stallman is Sherlock Holmes. Linus is Hercule Poirot.

>Linux' problem is that he can't grasp a simple fact: people, even very experienced people, make very bad and silly mistakes. He berates people that make errors that result in userspace applications not functioning.

People need to grasp the fact that they are responsible for their own mistakes and should fix them before turning in. There are many ways to do this. People have spent careers debating and figuring out the best ways. If you are an adult no one is responsible for accepting your fuck ups. Also his name is Linus.

>Meanwhile, pilots who have by their error crashed planes and killed passengers are not berated by their colleagues.
They are fired and possible charged. Pilot procedures preclude human mistake from snowballing into actual shit storms. If you crashed a plane do to your own mistakes you somehow broke the shit that exists to stop your mistakes from becoming a disaster.

Because Linus works his ass off actually being a kernel developer and maintainer. He occasionally gives talks at conferences that revolve around very technical subjects that most people on Sup Forums can barely grasp. He's not all that memeworthy except for some of his more colorful outbursts or insults.

Stallman on the other hand doesn't do much development anymore and when he speaks at conferences it's more about the "philosophy" of software instead of technical aspects, which is much easier for the denizens of Sup Forums to understand. He is also a petulant, autistic manchild who has a tendency to throw hilarious tantrums, eat toe cheese on stage, and talk about the sexual bond that he and his parrot share. Stallman is much more memeworthy.

soyboys used to the fake smiles and gibberish of pc corporate culture. they cant deal with genuine people.

>doesn't do much development
>speaks more about the "philosophy" of software instead of technical aspects
>petulant, autistic manchild who has a tendency to throw hilarious tantrums
Sounds like Sup Forums, alright.

>not to mention deal with tiling WMs or shit like that.
dwm works completely default

Yeah, that was basically my point

he's got a decent background even if he did waste it writing stupid shit in lisp

>*GCC's behind you*

Nobody in America has much empathy for workers. The left at least articulates some free shit for unemployable people while the right thinks that tax cuts will bring coal jobs back or whatever.

That doesn't mean normies want to use it

thats why you read through your shit at least twice and test it before publishing it.

>The left at least articulates some free shit for unemployable people

Why should society provide for you if you are unable or unwilling to provide anything for society?