>the eight rays of the sun represents provinces with SIGNIFICANT involvement in the 1896 revolution.
>these provinces are Manila, Bulacan, Cavite, Pampanga, Tarlac, Laguna, Batangas and Nueva Ecija
No Bisaya province lol. They're busy sucking white dick and with full time faggotry.
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So Bisayans were the only good Filipinos.
No one cares about history of Philippines.
>weeb bisaya feels like he's a jap by using jap proxy
Says the country who went to war with the Americans only to lose
You kastila literally tried to convince the US to only annex the Visayas and Mindanao and went as far as proposing to cede the Canaries, in a desperate attempt to retain Manila and Luzon, even though that was the most rebellious region of the archipelago.
Really makes you think
My friend was travelling through Asia and stayed in Manilla. He said the people there just piled their garbage in the city centre. It was called garbage mountain.
I literally can't comprehend how savage, barbaric, primitive, and completely beneath the rest of the developed world you shitty Flips must be. Your entire people and 'culture' is a blight on this planet. Your capital fucking city can't even put together a functioning waste disposal policy. It's an issue that all cities have had to figure out since the dawn of time and you filthy monkeys are incapable of even the simplest coordinated action problems. It's beyond disgusting.
It depends on the area you fucktwit.
t. Bad Filipinos
nobody cares, you are trying to romanticise an globally irrelevant event
2bqhwy the american annexation of the Philippines eventually led to the US rivalry with Japan and was an indirect cause of WW2.
I mean, the Pacific war.
>implying america wouldn't challenge japan for hegemony of the pacific
>implying america wouldt be obligated, by fighting germany, to fight japan anyway
It was an huge mistake our ancestors protected your shithole with trashy niggas from western colonialism. You all filthy scums must have had been exterminated by whites so that the Philippines become now one of the best Safest resorts on the earth.
I understand that Manilla is huge because they also breed like fucking rats but I was talking about the city centre
The city center outside the wall is in fact one of the poorest part of Metro Manila and historically it has always been like this. The upper class mostly lives in eastern Metro Manila.
The entire fucking city is poor because the people are unable to produce wealth or things of value. Why don't other poor cities have the problem of a centrally located mountain of festering garbage?
>entire fucking city is poor
not really
Those garbage are not in the city centre btw but in the outskirts its called payatas dumpsite(pic related) it was a problem in last decade 90s but now its covered with layers
>The entire fucking city is poor
Did you have memes for breakfast?
Relex. It's just the angry ofw bisaya who sucks white cock for breakfast.
This is the exact reason why we need a separation guys. All the Bisaya do not want to deal with these rude Tagalogs anymore. We're getting tired of this tribalism shit.
Tagalogs are literally comparable to America's niggers.
>We're getting tired of this tribalism
>why we need separation
ITT: diaspora and local flip retardation
Please educate me. I'm serious.
I need to increase my knowledge about this kind of stuff.
BGC and Eastwood still smell like a sewer even though it's pretty. There is nothing good anywhere in Manila
Do you actually retain the Spanish names? What the fuck?
educate you in what my nigga
I find it hilarious how people in the upscale places go try to enjoy the nightlife in the humid heat. Definition of tryhard.
Yes, but some (like me) have legit tribal-tier last names
>legit tribal-tier last names
Jun Jun Magjajakol?
>Magjajakol
something like that yeah but not as tribal as those with hyphens
My grandpa said the Spanish forced his great-great grandfather to change his family name to "Dela Cruz" during the spanish occupation
I meant of places, like the one in the OP.
>places
yep, why would we change it
there was literally a Spanish edict requiring their subjects to do so. Luckily my ancestors were mountain savages who hunted heads for sports until the late 1890's
Politicians LOVE renaming streets and stuff but most of the provinces and cities retain their Spanish names.
Well yeah, you conquered and raped us for over 300 years. I feel really disgusted that I'm named after some shitty spanish king.
Why not change it, though? We renamed the conquered cities from the Muslims, cannot be that hard.
Though I do like that there's a town called Madrid in Filipinas.
>raped
There's very little Spanish blood and Filipinas actually never spoke Spanish; the situation there was akin to that of the Spanish Netherlands -or Muslim Spain during the Omeya Empire-; the Spaniards only ruled, you were never actually colonized.
probably historical value
renaming cities will further confuse people
Part of heritage.
But wouldn't it be better to have that confusion for some time to bring back a fully native Filipinas? I don't see how those Spanish names should be there, there's very little Spanish about Filipinas, unlike the rest of the ex-colonies.
What heritage, though? The only thing that Spain brought there was infrastructure -of which I don't even know how much remains- and religion; no language, no Spanish culture, no blood.
I would understand people like Rizal claiming heritage, but that's like 1 in every 10 million filipinos.
There's no native filipino culture left, you destroyed it!
>black legend
Wew, lad.
You forgetting your own culture has nothing to do with us.
>bring back a fully native
what like those negritos in the mountains?
nah
Look on the bright side, we are bros because of that
There probably is more to it than that. I just don't see the point in keeping naming conventions when it was a hostile independence and you didn't speak the language to begin with.
revolutionist during that time can speak spanish
hell even our national anthem is spanish only translated to tagalog
>revolutionist during that time can speak spanish
Only a very small minority, probably mestizos and criollos, which didn't represent the entirety of the country.
There has to be some political party that advocates for these kinds of changes, I'd be surprised if there weren't.
>The only thing that Spain brought there was infrastructure -of which I don't even know how much remains- and religion; no language, no Spanish culture, no blood.
do a superficial reading on flip culture then come back
>Only a very small minority
not really all of them are filipinos, educated filipinos who can speak spanish
>and you didn't speak the language to begin with.
the official language of the government was english AND spanish until recently. Spanish was a mandatory subject in elementary and high schools until the late 80's. You can't just up and remove 300 years of influence like that. It has already permeated the local culture and created a hybrid of sorts.
I forgot to add that our entire penal code, and a majority of civil laws were derived from the spanish code.
I've done so, and all I see is a lot of Spaniards lamenting that there's literally no Spanish-Filipino peotry to the level that there is any other Spanish-Excolony literature.
And all the names that come up to mind are mestizos or criollos, who don't represent Filipinas, since they were all brought up in Spain anyway and spoke Spanish to begin with.
There's no tracks of that. Spain, for all the power and money it once had, could never actually take colonization to Filipinas; there were never Spanish schools at the level that would make Filipinas, at the very least, competent in Spanish. Again, most of those revolutionists were indeed mestizos or criollos, and in many cases they spoke Spanish not because of will, but because of necessity, since Spain didn't speak Tagalog and trying to make Filipinas a province and no longer a colony forced them to speak a language that was not their own.
Spanish was forbidden during the USA administration, I cannot remember to what extent in academical situations, but people could not speak it in public, and there's recordings of Spanish-speaking Filipinos telling this in youtube about their families forced to stop speaking Spanish. Similar to what happened in Spain with Catalán, technically "not illegal" but outlawed in most cases.
>300 years of influence
And that's the key word, "influence". I'm not denying there's and there will be a connection between Spain and Filipinas, but just to an influencial level, never to the extent that culture was molded in any way. Again, it's widely known in Spain that Filipinas was never actually colonized, just administrated.
>There's no tracks of that
what? do you even know that the oldest university in asia is in philippines?
you still think we are backward ooga booga tribes back then?
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>Spanish was forbidden during the USA administration
It wasn't. We have supreme court cases from that era recorded in fucking Spanish and it was a pain. Either take my word for it, or contact various Filipino Historians for it (to be sure, contact historians from the most nationalist university in the islands: UP)
t.history major
In all fairness some of the most beautiful Spanish literature was written in the Philipines, and not so long ago as some might think.
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>you still think we are backward ooga booga tribes back then?
You're jumping to conclusions here, friendo, I never implied that.
But the fact that you are implying that Spanish tracks are very clear because a few buildings were built is outrageous.
I never said anything about pre-Spain Filipinas nor did I imply it was "ooga booga", I literally know nothing about it.
What I'm saying is that Spain has very little to do with Filipinas, to the point that having naming conventions from Spain seems disrespectful to the people of Filipinas, who don't have Spanish blood, don't have Spanish heritage and had a hostile separation with the peninsula.
And and "oldest university" really means nothing when it's very clearly stated throughout history that Spain didn't actually have the power nor the will to push for full Spanish or mestizo-Spanish Filipinas, like with the rest of the territories.
Hell, Guinea Ecuatorial has more of a reason to maintain Spanish names and Spanish toponyms.
>Filipino intellectuals
Aka, mestizos and criollos, hence my point.
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Second guy literally says it was forbidden to speak Spanish.
>to the point that having naming conventions from Spain seems disrespectful to the people of Filipinas, who don't have Spanish blood, don't have Spanish heritage and had a hostile separation with the peninsula.
not really disrespectful because flips that time speaks spanish
Moro liberation when?
>not really disrespectful because flips that time speaks spanish
But they didn't, I'm telling you, Spanish was not the language of Filipinas, it was the native languages.
I'm not memeing when I say that Spain could not afford full on hispanization, Spain didn't not have the means to make Filipinas Spanish-speaking.
Yes, Spanish was indeed the "de jure" language, but so was Latin for Roman Spain, but turns out literally nobody but Roman-blooded citizens actually spoke; just like how Arabic was the language of "Muslim Spain" but turns out nobody but Arab officials spoke it, the rest spoke mozarabic, a romantic language.
I'm telling you, If you can link me to sources that contradict Spain's own historians that have said time and time again that Filipinas never spoke Spanish please, do post them, but I'm pretty sure you won't be able to find them because the language was never actually brought to Filipinas.
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>Spanish was the official language of the Philippines from the beginning of Spanish rule in the late 16th century
Literally all of our national heroes during revolution speaks spanish, all of them 100% filipino.
You can get out of the country anytime you want, bisaya. Just be a faggot and go marry Mr. Smith.
>tagalog
>niggers
Won't get baited. Bisayas are worse than niggers.
You ransack their culture and not acknowledging them when they speak your tongue? Please be responsible of your action. If they're still muslim or have the native religions, and their Sultan, they would still have many cultural heritage and actually on tier of that Bruneian, given the chance. But you convert them, take all their resources, remove their Sultans, like what you've done in south america. They would not hate us like this in this century (Sabah, pilak). Even as local, I will gladly combined with the Sulu Sultanate, but they're long gone. Nothing's left. Instead the Northern Christian Flips is thinking they have rights on Sabah, which is not. They're not even Sulu, but wants to claim this and that. Please be responsible, you. SPAIN.
Nobody here wants their stupid muslim and malay cultures.
PH is to Asean as UK is to Euro. We don't want you goat fuckers but we know you need us.
we actually like what Spain gave us mostly...
>Anyone ever needing Philippines
for what lol you have no culture, no economy, no army and shit cuisines
>no culture
en.wikipedia.org
>no economy
straitstimes.com
>no army
"no" is a broad statement
>shit cuisines
some imaginary friend told you not to eat pork doesnt mean its shit
>needing oil to grow
>being on easy mode
>yet still a muslim
flips should just copy the chinks and learn how to recycle.
But still insist on claiming Sabah.
Oh please. You are Tagalcuck, arent you both? I've actually met the real Southern Filipino before, Mindanau I think, they hate you and Spanish.
Excuse me. We export palm oils, gaharu, halal foods to the rich middle east countries and surprisingly, China. What do you export? Maids. Don't you have any dignity to send your women to work like that?
>to the rich middle east countries
not really
And so it is revealed... malayfag is actually a bisaya lol
Stop using proxies jimboy.
Look at "other countries". Those are MeNa.
Kau tek pahal? Mintak ditamparkah? Mok diterajang? Mintak pujik alu, taekburit tohpai kau sia, pilak. :D
Sounds like chicken's clucking lol
Who are the fucks who ruin online games for everyone across the world? Taglog or the other kind? Also apart from puta inang bobo, what else can I say to trigger 12 year Olds in gaming cafes?
Yes, we even retained your faggot king name as our cunt's name.
Pokpok pakantot
Well, of course you are chicken, if you read it in your DEEP accented K. Oh wait, you know to speak chicken, are you chicken?
>t. Tagalok bakla pokpok
What do you call an Indian in space?
POO
>couldn't even understand basic english
cultural wise, you are turks to europeans
too westernised
this
>malayfag called momma indoslut
MOOOOOOMMMM!!! FLIP IS CALLING ME A FAGGOT!!!
Nah I think Turks are a big stretch since your all the same race and SEA is a very diverse region anyway unlike Europe. I think Flips are more like Greeks since their europeam but a lot of Turkish looking people and influence.
Nobody in the PH really likes SEA culture which revolves either on Islam or despotic socialism. Only these bisaya flips on Sup Forums like them because they have nowhere to go.
t. junjun yabut
You call them at one of you king's name.
>manila
>not a shit hole
pick one
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greek culture, religion, identity, etc is simillar to most of its neighbours and it is essentially european, you couldn't say the same for the flips
racial wise, turks today are essentially turkified-islamised anatolian greeks, the same way filipinos today are hispaniced austronesians
Is there any pure blood white people in the Philippines ? Like some spanish or american settlers who never mixed with anyone ?
it revolve around hindu-buddhism and then islam, even in islamic indonesia
Pinoys are bastardized rape babies of Spanish, Chinese, Japanese colonizers/traders/invaders
Yes but is there any pure white people ?
>and went as far as proposing to cede the Canaries
You're joking.
2bh the Philippines are only superficially western/hispanic, Philippines' core values are still asian as fuck.
People tend to not notice all the similarities that the Philippines shares with rest of Asia only because its western traits are what makes it different from Indonesia and Malaysia.
Also the Philippines has always been a particular case due to its geographic position, even before the arrival of the spaniards the Philippines was a clusterfuck with Chinese, Hindus and Arabs randomly distributed all over the archipelago.
Manila really doesn't do a good job in reflecting the "asianness" of the Philippines, but that would be true for a lot of asian capitals nowadays (Tokyo, Seoul and Singapore are all pretty western nowadays)
Filipinas, ustedes serían nuestros hermanos orientales pero los gringos y los japoneses les lavaron la mente.
PD: hespania debuelbenos el horo.
Aún somos hermanos. No os olvidamos.
I'm not.
Another fun fact: those that are considered the "national heroes" that led to the Philippine revolution tried to ask the emperor of Japan for help, but seeing its reluctancy they literally tried to ask for annexation. Filipino revolutionaries were literally weaboos.
Francamente, nada ha cambiado mucho: fuimos violados por Estados Unidos como Latinoamérica.