If you want help: >State the budget & CURRENCY for your build >List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)
CPUs: >NO i5 7500/7600K or i7 7700/K. THEY ARE DEFUNCT AND SUPERSEDED BY COFFEE LAKE >G4560/G4600 - non-gaming (light tasks) or bare minimum gaming builds with a dedicated graphics card >R3 1200 - Budget builds (best with OC + fast RAM) >R5 1600 / i5 8400 - Great gaming (especially the i5 8400) or multithreaded use CPUs (especially the R5 1600) >R7 / Used Xeon / Threadripper / i7 - Heavy Multi-Tasking / VM Work / Mixed use
RAM: >Current CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3000-3200 MHz is ideal >Before buying RAM for Ryzen, check your Mobo's QVL or look for user reports
Graphics cards: >Consider Vega 56 for a Freesync monitor >Crypto-Currency miners have driven GPU prices up (particularly Radeon) 1080p >MSRP of standard 1080p cards: 1050Ti, 140USD; 1060 3GB, $200; 1060 6GB, $230; RX 570 4GB, $170; RX 580 4GB, $200 >GTX 1070 if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 1440p >GTX 1070/Ti and 1080 are standard choices; currently overpriced >GTX 1080Ti if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 2160p (4K) >GTX 1080Ti
General: >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING >A 240GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor
>order parts too quickly in a row >bank stops one of the orders
I JUST WANT TO BUILD
Ryder Miller
lol my bank emailed me with a link to confirm the purchase was legit... didn't stop the transaction tho... get a better bank.
my bank like "are u sure dude... we both know you can't afford that shit" im like "fuck u bank i need more fps"
Carter Moore
I mean they usually don't do it. I guess I just somehow managed to never spend over 1k at once despite dropping several hundred on other things at once in the past.
Jason Scott
>256GB optane SSD = $99 >4GB DDR4 RAM = $80 why do I feel like Intel could have something to do with DDR4 prices being so high...
Jose Hughes
RE EEEEEEEEEEEEE GE TRYZEN OIUT OF THE OP YOU FUCKING SHILLLL IT WAS OUR YEARRRRRRRR
does anyone know when gpu prices will go down? i want to sell my current card given how the market is right now, but i wont be able to game until i can get a new card. a month, 3 months?
Tyler Bell
NOOOOOOOOO FUCK YOU SHILL IM GOING TO END IT ALL
Andrew Davis
>does anyone know when gpu prices will go down? when amd makes a new gaymen gpu
so never
Tyler Watson
>a month, 3 months? Try 6 months at least.
Nathaniel Reyes
sell me your vega 64 for $450
Brandon Cruz
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Landon Davis
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Jeremiah King
Alright if this order for the processor is confirmed then it really is some kind of $1k limit on individual transactions. Literally just made an over $800 one moments previous and the items are on the way.
Caleb Taylor
RIP, the 4c/4t Ryzen until be the minimum recc if it's the same price as the G5400.
Not til the launch of the next midrange graphics cards, so several months
>reeeeee shitlel stutterfire 30% Is what you're really thinking, right?
Blake Foster
>tfw pure autism stops you from buying the final components from your local store >tfw you find out they do free deliveries on stuff over £50 >tfw need to copy remaining folder over to backup, but it's 155GB and it's going to take forever >tfw check back up drive and it already has my music folder in it >tfw means I only need to move 85GB
I forgot what optimism felt like desu senpai baka
Blake Anderson
So I started my first build, ha she mate come round and test everything. My motherboard is definitely fucked. So I'm returning it and buying a new one. Should I get another processors as well just in case? Or should it be alright. I had that problem where the pc starts but there's literally no display at all.
Nicholas Morris
>>G4560/G4600
Kill yourself.
Carson Campbell
Anyone? I presume the cpu is fine as all fans and leds were powering on.
Cooper Lewis
Is it not a problem with your monitor?
Julian Sanchez
No. As I said, everything was tried. My mates pc was able to connect as well. My motherboard is just fucked. My GPU is fine. His GPU definitely worked, but when he out it in my system it did nothing.
Noah Turner
I just need to know if my cpu is fine, because everything was powering on just no display so I assume it worked but the motherboard is a load of shit.
Jacob Cook
Maybe a PC repair shop will let you test your CPU on a spare mobo, I dunno. Otherwise you'll have to wait for the new one to arrive.
Levi Clark
Impossible to know without testing.
William Kelly
got an i5 4460, 16GB RAM and a 970 and it feels a bit sluggish during games (R6 and such) is a gen jump (Ryzen or 7th/8th gen Intel better or should I just go for a use 4790k and be done with it?
Lincoln Hughes
Get a 4790k, it's still very good for games and you wont have to pay out the ass for overpriced DDR4 ram.
Andrew Allen
I'll just wait and see then. It's brand new Ryzen 1500x and seemed alright. If not then I'll return it and shit.
Gabriel Diaz
I'd like to build a box that'll be used for a few VMs - some lightweight ones and a storage one - would something like this be okay/recommended?
>USB drive to boot VMware >SSD for VMs >~6x4TB SATA drives for a storage VM >storage VM is FreeBSD with the OS on the SSD and the 6x4TB added as a zfs pool
John Richardson
FreeBSD apparently doesn't have the spectre/meltdown patches, maybe try another option.
Carter Bennett
I imagine it will by the time I do this. is it an okay setup or not?
Parker Phillips
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Isaac Adams
why?
Hunter Bailey
Bought this "used" 4TB external for $70 off amazon warehouse. Looks completely new in box with warranty and everything. How'd I do? Never bought used parts before.
Gabriel Ross
Bretty good, provided the SMART values look alright.
Nicholas Taylor
Could do a chkdsk to be autistically sure about it.
Nathaniel Butler
this new product positioning makes much more sense i3 are 4 core, pentium 2c/4t, theres literally now a distinctive feature for all even for the retarded customer.
Adrian Long
I asked in an old thread, but no one replied. What are KingSpec SSDs like? It's ~£75 for a 250GB WD Blue, but I can get a KingSpec 360GB for the same price. Is it worth getting or is it too shit?
Jonathan Anderson
Yah, looks fine. I'm not too worried about it considering the low power hours.
Xavier Murphy
$142 for a pentium makes no sense at all when you can get an i3 for less and an R5 for almost the same price.
Henry Diaz
Use your brain man. Come on. Why would it be that cheap?
Nathan Baker
I just thought that some days the sun even shines on the dog's ass (._. )
Samuel Thomas
The chinese lettering should have alerted you instantly.
Thomas Roberts
I've literally just this second seen it, there was only a pic of the top and then I found one of the back. I guess I'll just wait.
Aaron Jenkins
Crucial is about as "budget" as I feel like going with drives. Have their MX300 1.1TB SSD and it's been going strong for a while.
Jayden Clark
I'll look into Crucial in that case. I was just going to buy a small SSD for my OS and some programs desu, but I've heard about Windows taking up huge amounts of space so it would probably be a waste of time doing that.
Adrian Roberts
For an OS drive I'd suggest 250-512GB. I have a "120GB" OS drive (soon to be replaced with 512GB) and because every program lazily dumps half of its shit into the C drive, I'm constantly hitting the space limit. 250-ish is probably enough, but 512 is nice.
Owen Baker
Alright lads, what's my first upgrade? RAM? If ram then how do I find out what ram I have? I've forgotten.
Caleb Rodriguez
This is my ram, how do I even tell what my ram is? I know I have 8 gigs and it was a Hyperx product.
Josiah Peterson
If you don't remember where you bought it, you can just shut the PC down and pull a stick out to read the writing on it.
Dylan Wilson
Thanks dude. I would be happy enough with a 250GB, but if I'm going to wait I suppose I might as well just wait until I have the money for 512GB.
Anthony Cook
Thank you, I might have to do that.
Joseph Robinson
Yeah, always check for sales too. Newegg and Amazon constantly discount shit for random reasons and the big holidays.
Jordan Perry
I've had this gpu for a while and looking to replace it with something new. I currently see it's phased out, as usual. What's the equivalent?
Aaron Turner
I'll give you $900 for that.
Joshua Phillips
At the moment, this GPU is more priceless than $900. Fucking sad.
Ryan Martin
How do you know if the cpu is fried? So my pc had the typical "Turns on, no display" issue and my mate brought around his pc and everything worked in his system. My monitor works too, tried dvi, vga and hdmi. So we came to the conclusion that the motherboard was fucked. I'm not surprised, it's a ASRock pro 4 b350m am4, saw a a lot of shit reviews on them. I presume the cpu is fine, as that's required for the fans to be in turning and leds to power on. So no need to replace that as well.
Jaxon Collins
If I plan to stream do I need a Ryzen 5 or will the 3 be enough?
Easton Thompson
by testing it in a mainboard that's known to work
Jeremiah Gomez
A guy in my building is selling his PC for 60GBP so I've said I'll take it. Only thing that's missing is hard drive. He's given a vague spec:
>i5 >16GB RAM >GTX 660 Ti
Am I right in thinking that the RAM has to be DDR3 and is therefore worth the purchase price itself? My plan here is to see what kind of i5 he's got in there, and if it's equal to or better than my FX-6300 I'll do a hybrid build between his machine and mine, then sell the spare parts. I don't see any way I can't end up making money here.
Carter Morales
Based, I'm not sure how great the deals are on Newegg in Britain, but I know the Amazon ones are pretty cool so I'll keep an eye out for one of those.
Jose Perry
Don't have one. Oh well. Might run into Maplins tomorrow and buy a Ryzen 3 and only open it if the thingy is fucked as well.
William Wilson
dead CPUs are extremly rare. Just RMA the mainboard, if it doesn't work get a new CPU. Chances are it will work
Christian King
go for it, you're right, no way you'll make no money on that one
James Peterson
tbf if its not the i5 750 you'll be better off with the i5. assuming 660ti and i5 bought at the same time you'll def get better perf. also yes all i5 has to have DDR3 so yeah for 60 britbongs thats pretty dank
Josiah Cook
Will do. Really pissed off with this. Was planning to be up and running by Friday and have a nice fun weekend. First build as well. Hope it works tomorrow.
Christian Edwards
always annoying. At least you didn't end up searching for the problem for hours
Yeah, I looked at the timings and if it was all bought at the same time it's likely the i5 is going to beat my FX-6300. Just waiting for the guy to confirm he wants to sell me it and I'll go pick it up and report back.
Juan Collins
Just out of interest you don't live in the North East of England do you?
Carter Jackson
Naa, south east.
Hudson Thompson
Well I sort of did. Thought it was the PSU, so bought a new one but no change. Gonna refun the old one though. Spent quite a fair amount of time on it but now I know the issue thank goodness.
Julian Cruz
does it make sense to build a pc and then wait to put a graphics card in? ive got this list:
but im like a gpu doubles the price lol. can a pc run with no graphics card at all? i have no idea help
Ryder Phillips
You can probably make more than 60 selling just the graphics card in the current market.
Joshua Young
Don't take my word as gospel, but there's definitely a few places there you could be saving money that you could put towards a GPU.
Joseph Long
mate, if you have to ask these questions you really shouldn't be building
Jaxson Scott
haha gimme a break im a noob. i almost bought a pre built but yall convinced me otherwise
Leo Hughes
even at double msrp? i know i could get smaller hdd components
Dominic Powell
just trying to help, Sup Forumsuy. Seriously it depends on if the CPU has integrated graphics. I don't think Ryzen does. You can probably buy a cheap used graphics card like a 750ti or something and sell it on once you get a good one without losing a lot of money.
Benjamin Hernandez
Can't run Ryzen without a graphics card, but basically anything from the last 20 years will work. I'm sure some old ATi 5770 or whatever could keep your computer perfectly functional and able to do low end gaming until graphics cards become sane.
Ayden Phillips
4790K is a good one. Replaced the 4770K which couldn't really be OC'd for shit.
Julian Anderson
Just installed my i7 8700k and fired 'er up. Who else here feeling #comfy?
John Nelson
first related thread in /g
so I have picrelated, what do?
Ayden Kelly
>4gb DDR4 for 80 dollars
bullshit, I bought 16gb gaymen Corsair Vengeance overclocking ram for 200 dollars at a brick and mortar a couple months ago and another 16gb for 185 on ebay, 32gb for 385 dollars that's not bad, I remember when 1gb DDR400 of the same type of gaming ram with the Corsair LEDs was 400 dollars.
Memory for sure, hell even 2x 4gb to take advantage of dual channel and increased bandwidth
I went 4x 8gb for quad channel gloriousness.
Everything else looks good though, not a bad build at all.
Cooper James
Is that idling? If so, it looks a little spicy. How about GPU temps?
Michael Butler
>Asus Zenith Extreme is a couple blocks away in the Amazon van >all other parts arriving by Tuesday at the latest
Ayden Allen
also GPU watercooling question, I plan on adding a single 1080ti and adding two 80mm radiators in the back of the case in holes I've already drilled for them, if I put the GPU on a separate loop (the CPU is an AIO) do the blocks that go on the cards have pumps built into them or do I need to do that separate?
I've never done an open loop I haven't been around the stuff in a while but if I remember correctly, at least in 2002 when I had a DangerDen setup on my Athlon XP, the pump was a separate apparatus, then you needed the waterblock on whatever you were cooling, then that went out to a radiator, or two of them in my case, and from there into a resivoir and then back into the pump, did I get that right?
Ryan Perry
I think it depends more on how quickly you need it, what you need it for, and what your budget is. I had to swap the SSD for an HDD and got a shitter PSU, but by doing that I was able to pick up my GPU. I mean I still had my pants pulled down for it and ended up paying £180, but it meant I was able to get everything else and, almost, keep within my £700 budget. I also only got 8GB of RAM, but that's because the prices are so ridiculous. When they come back down I'll add another 8GB. As long as it works fine, I'll worry about the bells and whistles later.
Caleb Sanchez
enjoy that feeling of an imminent build, user
Dominic Morgan
>Zenith Extreme
My nigga, run the 0804 BIOS if you want to bootable NVMe RAID 0 some disks together.
I already went through all of this stuff to make it work so if you have any questions save yourself some time and ask them here.
Carson Ward
Been a while since I've actually bought a card, but holy shit this is just ridiculous. These miners are annoying as fuck. It's just like when I bought my 290 4 years ago.
Landon Mitchell
>tfw had my parts for the last 4 days, but have no case
It's excruciating, I hope it comes tomorrow.
Hunter Reed
Not planning on RAID at the moment as I'm stretching the limits of my "budget" with this: pcpartpicker.com/list/WMwjjc
Planning to bolster my saving after this until either Titan Xp gets back in stock or just wait it out for Volta -80 Ti/big boy full-die Titan releases. Only then will I think about RAID.
Cooper Cooper
GPU is about 56-65 C. It is under light load such as web browsing and torrents. Things goes bad if I play games, I have to use a cooling pad to keep FPS stable. I clean my laptop from dust, but it doesn't help a lot. Will I be able to replace the thermal paste? I have replaced it on my battle station, but laptop still frightens me.
Angel Rivera
Maybe try MSI Afterburner and use a more aggressive fan curve?
Mason Watson
Oh and obviously gonna upgrade the monitors with the graphics card at that future time.
Josiah Cook
These are my specs for my current PC, but unfortunately my motherboard is fucked so I'm going to have a go at replacing it myself.
How can I be sure that the new motherboard I buy will be compatible with my system? Unfortunately, pcpartpicker doesn't have some of those components listed so I can't check on there.
Also, how hard is it for someone who doesn't know a huge amount about computers to replace a motherboard? Is it just as simple as following some basic instructions? Or is there something I should really know before starting?
Adrian Harris
Fan settings are locked, I'm unable to change it. The air stream from fan is pretty hot, so I guess it still dissipates the heat.
Hudson Sanchez
I think I've heard of heatsinks for laptops, basically big aluminum fin arrays that go on the bottom.