If you want help: >State the budget & CURRENCY for your build >List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)
CPUs: >NO i5 7500/7600K or i7 7700/K. THEY ARE DEFUNCT AND SUPERSEDED BY COFFEE LAKE >G4560/G4600 - non-gaming (light tasks) or bare minimum gaming builds with a dedicated graphics card >R3 1200 - Budget builds (best with OC + fast RAM) >R5 1600 - Great gaming or multithreaded use CPUs >R7 / Used Xeon / Threadripper - Heavy Multi-Tasking / VM Work / Mixed use
RAM: >Current CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3000-3200 MHz is ideal >Before buying RAM for Ryzen, check your Mobo's QVL or look for user reports
Graphics cards: >Consider Vega 56 for a Freesync monitor >Crypto-Currency miners have driven GPU prices up (particularly Radeon) 1080p >MSRP of standard 1080p cards: 1050Ti, 140USD; 1060 3GB, $200; 1060 6GB, $230; RX 570 4GB, $170; RX 580 4GB, $200 >GTX 1070 if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 1440p >GTX 1070/Ti and 1080 are standard choices; currently overpriced >GTX 1080Ti if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 2160p (4K) >GTX 1080Ti
General: >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING >A 240GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor
Stopped reading were you unironically recommended any Intel processor. Enjoy your fail thread.
Lincoln Walker
how many amd processors can you fit into your bum?
do they send you free lube?
Jaxson Sanchez
When are the release dates of new GPUs? It seems it's going to be cheapest to just buy the newest ones.
Isaac Butler
You haven't read the news lately, did you? Or are you that much in denial that you actually think software workarounds can "fix" broken silicon.
Joseph Lopez
Does mining burn through ssds? How dead is a 960EVO 500GB that's been used in a mining rig for 8 months and would you buy it for 60% of its local retail price?
Brandon Roberts
Can you guys help me, around $750 budget, mostly for gaming and a little bit of digital art. I can't decide between 1600 and 8400. Also a full build recommendation is welcome. Thanks.
Logan Sanders
If there's no price difference between the r5 1600 and the i5 8400, what would be the more prudent purchase?
Dumb question I'm sure, but I'm out of the fucking loop, I'm still running my 2500k here.
Austin Reyes
>buying something that will have drop-in upgrades for the 3 next generations >buying something that has a small chance of having a drop-in upgrade for the next generation
Evan Perez
Looking at getting the MSI Z370 Tomahawk LGA1151-CL ATX Desktop Motherboard, it's at a good pricepoint locally so I was wondering if it is worth getting or not.
Isaiah Brown
>drop-in upgrades For a CPU? What is this drop in upgrade?
Lucas Morgan
This kid has a better rig than you.
Gavin Russell
yeah but it looks like shit
Brandon Carter
which processor makes most sense to pair with the gtx 1060 6gb only for gaming? Is the R3 1200 oc with 2666 mhz ram to weak, should I buy the 1600 or the intel i5 8400 with the slightly more expensive motherboard?
Kayden Gray
Here you go user, I'd save some more money and get a 1050 ti or a 1060 but you can live with the 1050 while you look for a gpu on sale or on evga's site pcpartpicker.com/list/zB6FJV
Luke Turner
If your budget can reach a 1600 great, if not go for a 1500x or a 1400. The 1200 will work just fine as you can see here but the extra money spent will be worth it youtube.com/watch?v=FAU46vMBRBI
Ryzen 3 1200 and 1060 running on a 430W evga psu. Am I playing with fire there? Could I try overclocking with that?
Ethan Edwards
ok thanks. I know that no one here likes intel, but the 8400 has really nice single core performance. The only reason why I havent bought it yet, is that it isnt available right now. But I guess I settle with the 1600. The gpu will bottleneck most of the time anyways.
Jaxon Russell
Stop niggerreplying
Kevin Cook
>Sup Forums - Technology on the third monitor my sides he's among us
Mason Moore
It's not like I hate intel, I've used their processors for a long time but amd brought non locked chips at an affordable price
Jaxson Nguyen
>rig
Gavin Bennett
Right. I also suggest everyone to buy an amd cpu just because it really helps the market. I wouldnt buy them myself though.
Jaxson Martin
I want to replace my shitty ass cpu and motherboard, it is definitely bottle-necking my gpu I have a budget of around $500 USD and want to at least be able to play modern games like watchdog 2 or battlefield 1 on high settings and have stable 60fps what's the best choice for me
Carter Ross
oh and I also want to get a new case but am not sure what to get, not counting the price of the case into the $500 budget
Joshua Reyes
It's shopped, newfriend.
Elijah Martinez
My 2700k is starting to feel a bit aged, worth it to upgrade yet?
Have an SSD and a GTX 770, so it's not awful.
Xavier Martin
Is this b350 board good value for overclocking? Someone complained about it being buggy.
The 1600 would be enough for what you describe but if you can get the 1700 pcpartpicker.com/list/twMmpb As for the case look for the s340 Elite, Phanteks p300, enthoo pro m, corsair 270r or 200r if you don't mind not having a window on the side
Jonathan Adams
daily reminder when in doubt always go with Asus
they just werk
Connor Morgan
Works fine for me
Jayden Harris
Yeah, this totally doesn't apply to AyyyMD as well you fucking misinformed faggot.
Angel Murphy
It's more worth it to upgrade GPU for you, but, uh... yeah. Titan Xp, maybe?
Jack Phillips
thanks , also what's the difference between the normal cpu and X version, and are the ram a must; are my old ones not compatible with the new mb?
Daniel Carter
>out for delivery
Brody King
Jesus the prices are INSANE now I'm mad I sold my R9 Fury a year ago
Thomas Cox
Stupid ruruco poster.
Noah Ortiz
well fuck, just looked into it, it appears my ram is indeed incompatible, guess I'm gonna have to shell out a bit
James Perry
This isn't /pcbg/ specific I don't think, but it did involve me buying parts. Basically
>Buy item from eBay using Paypal >Gets cancelled almost immediately because it's a scam >Bank still takes money out of account >Check Paypal and it says the payment is still pending (as it also says on eBay) >Buy GPU for £180 >GPU arrives the following day >Try to buy cables from eBay just now >Payment won't go through and tells me to check Paypal >Paypal says I owe them £180 from the GPU >Check bank balance >£180 was taken from bank, but then immediately declined >Have £179.90 in bank account >Can't make purchase of £3 because of outstanding balance to Paypal
What do? Do I have to wait a month for the scam payment to be cancelled before the money goes back into my bank in which case the £180 will be taken back by Paypal and then I can buy things again? I fucking hate Paypal, they're literally zero help, even on their help page the layout is out of date so the whole thing is completely pointless. Sorry if this is more /sqt/, but I'm at a loss and it's pissed me off.
Dylan Gonzalez
I need suggestions for a 7z70 LGA1511 motherboard that doesn't have price hiked due to unnecessary bullshit like a trashy DAC and has a decent amount of usb ports
Does this sound alright? Any complications or incompatibility?
Mason King
>Cucktel
Levi Foster
No problem, the 1700x and 1800x have higher clock speed and a little more overclocking room but they don't come with a cooler, you could get a Cryorig H7 or a Noctua NH-L9i (you would need a NM-AM4-L9aL9i mounting kit for $8 or send proof of ownership to Noctua and they will send it for free)
Andrew Bennett
I know, but with prices the way they are, it's pretty disheartening. This 770 is on it's last legs anyways, had to throw it in the oven to revive it.
Any new GPU I get is going to be bottlenecked anyways, so I'm thinking upgrade the CPU/Mobo/RAM/Storage and then once this GPU shitstorm has hopefully blown over, I can replace the 770.
holy shit you cant even post a non-amd build without shills shitting up the thread.
Lucas Price
There's literally no reason to pay more for Intel now.
Bentley Lopez
That looks alright actually. Dunno about that board though.
Parker Howard
unless you want better performance
Colton Hill
Yo I just replace my motherboard today and it runs on default RAM-speed of 2133MHz(overclockable). My RAM are 2400MHz and it shows on the Bios that they're running at 2133MHz. But then the windows task manager show they're running at 2400MHz. Which should I trust? Did window overclocked them to rated speed automatically?
Hudson Fisher
>laughing at your GPU prices Getting them at those prices is like winning the lottery stop giving people false hope
Luis Anderson
And vulnerability.
Colton Sullivan
we invented computers n sheeit
Daniel Gonzalez
>Yeah, this totally doesn't apply to AyyyMD as well you fucking misinformed faggot. The comparison is nearly no existent. Why are you still shilling for Intel. Tons of bad shits been happening since last year and you'll still defend them? Admit it, They're fucked for now.
Benjamin Lopez
I can sell you a GTX 980 5% less then ebay average :^)
Easton Price
>5% less then ebay average :^) Your a crook!!!
Matthew Wood
> >unless you want better performance Amd provides smoother gameplay
Nathaniel Russell
Please give suggestions. I wanted to get MSI GeForce GTX 1060 X 6G but I can't buy it around here, it's gone from all the shops.
How desperate are you? You really should have purchased during the holidays
Brayden Myers
Gets me every fucking time
Cameron Cox
How far can I go if I want to do ITX? I really want a smaller build that I can keep on my desk to promote better airflow and look good. I realize though that the smaller form factor can cause the thermal issues I want to avoid.
Ideally I'd like to do heavy gaming while watching HD video or browsing the internet on a second screen. I've used 1080 for a long time but I'm strongly considering bumping myself up to dual 1440 or possibly ultrawide (although not having two screens would suck).
Is ITX realistic for that kind of an ask or do I need to go bigger?
Daniel Clark
You should feel bad for sharing this
Kayden Hall
>1050Ti >400$
Charles Hughes
You might need to go with liquid/AIOs. Thankfully they do make AIO graphics cards these days.
so I just checked and my PSU is only 650W, will it be enough, or do I need to buy a new one again
Christopher Diaz
Take your time and try to find something that's actually worth it. I got my gtx 1060 3gb for $250-270 during blackfriday but that's cause it was considered on special. Look and you'll find something
Luke Hughes
>Amd provides smoother gameplay [citation needed]
Robert Johnson
>>Amd provides smoother gameplay Google it and be bombarded by the overwhelming abundance of evidence been reported youtu.be/88IOcFE4yho
Hudson Miller
>literally who youtuber is now evidence amd shills everyone 90fps amd vs 120fps intel truly a smoother experience
Robert Sanders
>300 fps!!!! >eyes can only see at 30fps Also Intel minimums are always way lower then and which introduces stutters as its quite noticeable when your fps drops from your insane 140fps to 20fps. Also seriously stop fucking around and just Google it.
Owen Fisher
I dun unnerstan.
Liam Wilson
>tfw you read the autonomic feedback loops meme and brush it off as a meme, but then you come to /pcbg/ and find it being proved more and more true when the intel/AMD argument starts
Easton Long
Intel will screw you over the first chance they get. Don't purchase, least you love to take it in the ass
Samuel Fisher
I'm about to buy stuff for a new PC (except GPU, going to use my existing 7950 until prices lower) and unsure if it's worth the extra £80ish for 16GB over 8GB.
Is 16GB essential for gaming right now or will 8GB be fine until say the end of the year or even a few months while I see how prices go?
Grayson Garcia
If you're holding off on the GPU, might as well hold off on the RAM as well as you won't be playing any 16 GB-needing games at high texture levels anyway until you upgrade fully.
Justin Scott
It should be enough
Brayden Gray
>gets two 1080ti's for SLI >uses it to play Minecraft Oh dear....
Josiah Green
Happened to me two. You have to wait for the bank and PayPal to reverse everything. It can take nearly a whole month. So dude. Shit happens. Try not to jump for scams though. If its too good to be true. Its probably not true. At least in the end PayPal/ebay looks out for you even if it does take time
Christian Wright
>Room gets pretty dusty >Room also gets hot as fuck in the summer
How do I choose a case with this in mind? Should I buy a one which has more vents, but runs the risk of becoming Dustville or a more closed case, with little to no vents on the front or top, but comes with the risk of turning into a Turkish prison come summer? I saw one yesterday (not sure if it was a Corsair or NZXT) that had plenty space at the front for a radiator, was within my budget, and seemed like it would solve both issues for me, but do radiators have water in them? I don't like the idea of water near any of my components or electricity in general.
Hudson Smith
>Also Intel minimums are always way lower then and which introduces stutters literally false
Dylan Parker
> >It should be enough >666 >Replying to satan
John Barnes
What the fuck do you think a radiator does?
Brody Thomas
You get cases that have dust meshes that can be removed and cleaned.
Chase Smith
There's a lot of refurbished HP 8300 elites with 8gb-16gbs of RAM and 3rd gen i5's for under 200 burgerbucks, all you need is a low profile(very important, any other form factor wont fit) 75 watt (also important because it has to powered by the PCI-E slot) graphics card.
I recommend this for anyone who wants a cheap as fuck gaming PC.
Cameron Morris
Will the i5 4690k oc'd at 4.5 GHz bottleneck the Geforce GTX 1080ti? Or will I just have to upgrade my CPU whenever I get a new video card?
Ryder Anderson
Thanks, amigo. After about an hour I finally found out how to email Paypal, but I won't get a reply until at least tomorrow. I honestly wouldn't be bothered, but I'm due to be paid and that payment is for bills, but I know Paypal will take what is owed to them and then I'll have meme bank charges for failed direct debits. I don't know if they've removed the option to cancel a pending payment, but it isn't there and if they have it's stupid. I know I only have myself to blame, but I missed a great deal last time that looked like a scam and thought maybe this time things would work in my favour.
Serious question fàms is buying prebuilt is a better alternative now since GPU's are being overpriced?
Tyler Gomez
Yes it is. Until cryptonigs start buying pre-builts for their GPU's.
Josiah Bailey
Keeps things cool and comfy :3 I've just checked and I don't think my mobo even supports a radiator anyway though so I was just giving myself false hope.
How effective is the mesh though, or is it purely dependent on the size of the holes?
Jayden Cooper
aight, after looking around local prices and availability this is what I'm gonna buy, tell me if anything is wrong otherwise I'm going to buy this the next morning pcpartpicker.com/list/Fdmjjc
John Nelson
There is a website to check out bottlenecks thebottlenecker.com You can't cancel the transaction yourself I think so you can't try and scam yourself. That's why it takes time to reverse. It looks like it but try check what theyre putting in. They'll put in chinkshit PSU and cheap ram. I worked out a few pre-builts cost and it'll practically cost the same if you bought separately from the same retailer cause they cheap out where they can
>You can't cancel the transaction yourself I think so you can't try and scam yourself. That's why it takes time to reverse.
It's still on their help page how to cancel payments as long as the payment is pending, which this one is, but I'm almost certain they removed the option to do it. I've did it myself a few times, but it was years back which makes me think they've removed it. Probably for the reason you said.
Evan Gonzalez
>How effective is the mesh though, or is it purely dependent on the size of the holes? Honestly not sure. I've seen the mesh covering the whole of the front of a case, where it also had an intake fane and I think some of the back and side. Can't remember. But I'd imagine the mesh is pretty effective. Check a review or two
