News: Ryzen APUs will release on Feb. 12. The 2200G (99USD) and 2400G (169USD) are similar to the R3 1300X and R5 1500X respectively in cores/threads+clockspeed, but they have integrated graphics. The 2200G has 8 Vega CUs and the 2400G has 11 CUs, so they're in the same performance tier as the RX 550 (8CUs) or GT 1030.
If you want help: >State the budget & CURRENCY for your build >List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)
CPUs: >NO i5 7500/7600K or i7 7700/K. THEY ARE DEFUNCT AND SUPERSEDED BY COFFEE LAKE >R5 1600 / i5 8400 - Great gaming (especially the i5 8400) or multithreaded use CPUs (especially the R5 1600) >R7 / Used Xeon / Threadripper / i7 - Heavy Multi-Tasking / VM Work / Mixed use
RAM: >Current CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3000-3200 MHz is ideal >Before buying RAM for Ryzen, check your Mobo's QVL or look for user reports
Graphics cards: >Crypto-Currency miners have driven GPU prices up (particularly Radeon) 1080p >MSRP of standard 1080p cards: 1050Ti, 140USD; 1060 3GB, $200; 1060 6GB, $230; RX 570 4GB, $170; RX 580 4GB, $200 >GTX 1070 if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 1440p >GTX 1070/Ti and 1080 are standard choices; currently overpriced >GTX 1080Ti if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 2160p (4K) >GTX 1080Ti
General: >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING >A 240GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor
Looks to me like they were swapped during manufacturing Yes, twisting them should be fine.
Luis Reed
100% yes it will be fine to do that
Christian Price
Brainlet here from the last thread, does the USB need to be specifically bootable itself and not just an ISO saved to a USB?
Nolan Evans
>PC wouldn't start >next day it started but died after a few minutes >today I opened it up before starting it to see which fan was failing an causing overheating >all fans spin up >PC fine I have never been happier in my life.
John Barnes
Got the 1500x here and some 3000MHz RAM, gotta wait till tomorrrow to try it tho, Ryzen packaging is nice.
Hunter Watson
Yeah, the stick has to be turned into a boot stick using something like Rufus. If you don't know that, don't try installing Win7 on Ryzen or Coffee
Asher Reyes
I must have watched a million videos and whenever anyone mentions installing from a USB they never ever mention it, even Googling it I had to specifically search for it. Why not install W7 on Ryzen, is it because they don't do the automatic updates anymore? I've never used W10, but the W8 layout completely turned me off newer versions of Windows and then when W10 couldn't have been more of a botnet if it tried it turned me off even more. Would you suggest installing W10 and then running/installing whatever patch it is that makes it less of a spy tool?
Camden Taylor
Could someone recommend me a similar alternative to pic related? I want an arm with as little plastic as possible. My monitor (ASUS PG279Q) is too light for the gas spring in this so I can't move the top part of the arm down.
Anthony Wright
Simple solution is to buy some weights and use an adhesive to put them on the back of the monitor
Lucas Harris
>GT 1030 wowitsfuckingnothing.tiff
Cooper Baker
I've got an MSI 1080 ti on order for £700, which is decent considering the shit storm right now. It might be a while before I can get it because of the back log. I'm thinking of cancelling my order and then going for whatever is released, is that a better idea???
Robert Young
Just a friendly reminder that getting a refurbished office PC with a 3rd or 4th gen i5(i7 if you get a lucky find) and 8-16gbs of ram is the absolute best deal poorfags can get right now.
All you gotta do is throw in a low profile 1050ti.
Ethan White
Just wait.
Chase Hernandez
Isn't that at MSRP? Even if it isn't the best option you could probably sell it for more. Older generations have Xeon support/socket mods
Lincoln Martinez
I had actually thought about doing that, but with some weights attached in the cable routing slots. But an alternative option would be nice, too. Do VESA-shaped weights exist?
Logan Long
You're not wrong, but working in an office, I've had more fucking problems with HP motherboards and power supplies than I can throw a stick at. I haven't looked thoroughly into why, but it just seems like they're not validated to work with fucking ANYTHING outside of the parts they come installed with. Changing anything is a crapshoot. As long as poorfags accept that they're getting a pretty shitty long-term experience, instead of posting about how awesome their cheap build is, then we good...
Jack Taylor
Probably not. If you can open it up, you might be able to put the weights inside the monitor for the most clean aesthetic.
Ryder Sullivan
Not an option. It's very thin as it is, and I'd rather not risk damaging anything.
Chase Gomez
APUs in 10 days!
William Collins
Ergotron LX?
Parker Myers
Is RX Vega M GL that GPU Intel is going to use in their mobile lineup? Holy shit.
Aaron Morris
Just built my new computer, everything is going smoothly and it works fine, except for the speakers. I plug the speakers into the Line Out jack in the back of the computer, and it's detected (when I remove it from the computer it also detects that there's no audio device), I can see it in the sound device manager, and it shows that sound is playing if I play a song, but I hear nothing. When I plug headphones into the front, it works completely fine. I tried plugging the speaker into the front, it didn't work. I don't imagine it's my speakers since they're brand new, but I don't have anything else to try it on. Any ideas?
Wyatt Parker
Is there any kind of physical volume control on the speakers, buttons or a knob or something?
Samuel Harris
yeah, it's turned on. i dial it up and down every once in awhile just in case, but it is on. It clicks when you turn it right so you know sound should start to come out
Jaxson Nguyen
what is the current hobo build for 2018?
Jack Young
atleast keep your shit facing upright
try plugging headphones into the back and try connecting your speakers to another device (phone, pmp, whatever) just to make sure the board isnt fucky.
Jason Ward
You would get something better if you stole a PC from your local library I am honestly not joking
Nicholas Perez
Ryzen APU
Asher Stewart
That mounts to a wall. Has to mount to a table with C-Clamp.
Dominic Diaz
weird, now that you mention it. plugged my headphones into the rear port and it worked completely fine, same as the front. tried plugging my speakers into the front again and then the rear and still nothing. are the speakers really fucked? they're definitely on, i'm turning the dial and it's recognized by the computer.
Jacob James
well im glad i didnt wait for ryzen apu's and just go ta 1st gen 1200, that's a disappointment
Adam Long
god dammit, i feel like a fool. sorry you were right,i forgot to plug in the adapter, it was only plugged into the computer. guess i'm dumb.
Cooper Parker
ergotron lx has also table mounts
Dominic Reyes
The 2200G is literally a better version of the 1200 for the same price
Ryan Diaz
Who the fuck would buy an apu
Camden Cook
>Waiting a 6 month for your 200 extra mhz And you guys complain about the intel 6%
Samuel Long
...
Elijah Walker
Oh retards, understood
John Taylor
The same people who would buy the 1200 or 1400, along with people who don't want to buy video cards but also don't like Intel iGPUs.
Benjamin Gutierrez
It's funny how jews can easily manipulate you fags into buying shit just by drawing some anime character to represent their product.
Luis Hughes
Learn to have some fun.
Bentley Cruz
hey friends, I'm not to confident in building my own PC, or I should say I am more interested in starting with a prebuild and upgrading it in the future.
The games I am interested in playing are Dragon Ball Xenoverse 2, Dragon Ball Fighter Z, The Witcher 3, and Final Fantasy 15 (these seem like the kind of games that would be the most advanced to play)
What do you guys think?
Elijah Stewart
It's alright, but the Ryzen 1400 build in the same page is a better deal.
Joshua Rogers
find out what kind of motherboard/PSU it comes with (if you can), opt for the Ryzen 1400 since AM4 will last you longer and be better for any upgrades
Christian Walker
>It's funny how jews can easily manipulate you fags into buying shit Nothing wrong with the APUs; in fact there's no competing product from Intel.
Anyone who wants to build on AM4 but doesn't want to buy a graphics card yet Anyone who wants to play old games
It's ok considering current RAM and graphics card prices But the SSD is small, no upgrade path from the 7700 The case might be hard to work with
Luis Thomas
I see looking at the the Ryzen I might go with that
can I replace the SSD? I'm sorry I'm retarded when it comes to this stuff. I'm ok with getting a new case in the near future if it will work out, I guess I'll go with the Ryzen
Jose Gomez
Probably something with one of those new Pentiums.
Parker Perry
I've got 2 storage drives on my computer but i'm getting another SSD, a samsung. I forgotten what comes with it, do I need just a sata cable extra?
Jonathan Ward
yes, the kikes never bundle that in.
if you want to double check just search for an unboxing video on youtube.
Matthew Roberts
Couple questions about 1440p: how would a R5 1600 and a 1060 handle 1440p? And is there any issue with having a dual monitor setup with one 1440p and one 1080p?
Jonathan Bennett
>And is there any issue with having a dual monitor setup with one 1440p and one 1080p? Do you realize how disconcerting this would be?
Christian Clark
idk just wondering
Isaac Stewart
i bought a gtx 1080 for 533 on black friday. haven't turned it on in 2 weeks. considering using it to mine shitcoins
Adam Jackson
You can always add another SSD and/or HDD (unless the board is pure shit it should have 6 SATA ports and maybe an M.2) The 1060 would have to use medium settings to get consistent 60 fps in a lot of titles. I would consider it entry-level 1440p though. If you have a 1440p and 1080p monitor, Windows display scaling will make dragged windows look really weird and unpleasant.
Jordan Reyes
Minor correction, meant to say 4 SATA ports. Some A320 may have less though so look out for that
Hunter Wood
Niggers I'm selling my old parts so I can get a PS4 and play MonHun. I have an R9 280X, an M5A97 mobo, an FX 8320 (lol), and 8 gigs of ddr3 ram. I am in Miami and spend most of my day at the MMC FIU campus. I will also consider trading some shit for a PS4.
Isaiah Martinez
You can run it just fine, but assuming you're going to run in extended desktop any windows that span the monitor space will be shifted in size really badly. Text and whatnot will also be different sizes on each. You can try to balance it out with windows scaling or whatever, but I don't think it'll work out well.
I used to run 2x 1080 screens, one 24" and one 27" and even that wasn't terrific to look at.
If you're going to go dual then get matching monitors. Pic related.
Lucas Jones
Royalty-free thunderbolt 3 motherboards when?
Nathan White
New Ryzen 2200G launches in February spend at $99 with built in graphics slightly better than the Nvidia 1030 and it can even run older games like Skyrim on high settings 1080p
Parker Barnes
Why not build a pc?
Isaiah Thomas
Because he wants to play monster hunter, didn't he say?
Isaac Adams
Paired a 970 with a 8320, good match? I picked up the 970 for $150
Camden Baker
>so they're in the same performance tier as the RX 550 or GT 1030 Holy shit, I'm not always very up to date with hardware news but that's pretty fucking decent for integrated graphics.
Ayden Hughes
>intel 6% More like 1%, we haven't gotten a decent performance boost from intel since fucking Haswell
Cameron Allen
Yeah except 7500 vs 8400 is 20% easy
Samuel Williams
>are similar to the R3 1300X and R5 1500X respectively in cores/threads+clockspeed, but they have integrated graphics.
So is it worth waiting for the R7 APU or just go with current R7?
>tfw can't decide whether to blow ~AUD$300-350 on upgrading fileserver/nas/router/transcoder box from 7850k to 2400G
Jonathan Ortiz
Businesses who don't gaym, and don't want to deal with the performance loss from intel's recent crap.
Wyatt Foster
Yeah I couldn't wait because I know it's gonna be a long time until they get here
Caleb Russell
>6 core chip performs better than a 4 core one No shit Timmy, doesn't change the fact that in terms of IPC intels has gone practically nowhere in the past 5 years, and their clockspeed bumps haven't been that amazing either. 6 core chips aren't anything new, Intel's had them for awhile, they're just offering them for non-assrape prices now since AMD made them look bad.
Nolan Reyes
cutey in the back. tfw no gf.
Charles Miller
Their stock clock bumps have been great. But you could have ~4.5ghz+ with Sandy Vag OC and IPC (for the featureset of SandyVag) hasn't moved at all since then. Any performance outside of clockspeed on Intel has been the introduction of newer, more efficient/performant instructions (which of course will only affect software compiled with support for those instructions)
Ryzen actually has better IPC than Intel when you count out AVX (Intel wins out for 128bit AVX and trashes AMD when compiled for 256bit AVX2) Also as an interesting tidbit, Piledriver and Steamroller were better at Integer (and ONLY integer math) math clock for clock than Sandy.
Alexander Lewis
Nice I went for the same Ryzen but 2666mhz because 3000+ memory is really expensive where I'm from and the PC Mate instead
Colton Ramirez
I have. I am just trying to get rid of my old parts since I upgraded to a 1060 6gb and an i5 8400. Im just an impatient fuck and cant wait for the PC release.
Luke King
Whats your point? Amd has had this long and cant beat the ipc of an old i5. Its literally moar cores and threads on the cheap with shitt clocks and ipc on offer from amd right now
Xavier Richardson
>shit IPC What the fuck are you talking about, Ryzen's IPC is practically even with Intel's and actually better in some situations
Tyler Scott
It's on par with Haswell. Coffee Lake is something like 5% better IPC, and higher clocked.
Jace Rodriguez
>BUT IT'S ALMOST AS GOOD!!!!
Robert Lewis
I care about performance per dollar, and AMD gave Intel a serious beating in that regard. Intel responded with Coffee Lake but we'll see how they fare once 7nm Zen 2 comes out.
Jackson Ortiz
Speaking of which
Elijah Kelly
is a 4k monitor worth it if you don't have anything better than a 1060?
Luke Perry
Nor for games. Get a 144hz
Ryan Price
No, it's not that simple. It's slightly better in some tasks and slightly worse in others. Either way you'd have to be a complete retard to consider the minuscule difference "shit".
Nathan Roberts
absolutely not you would have to upscale everything and it would look like shit
Chase Sanchez
Clock for clock doesnt mean shit when one clocks much higher than the other
Easton Cooper
what does a 144 do better than 60?
Gabriel Evans
And the 8400 at 3.8 still beats the 1600 at 3.8
Wyatt Green
Smoother and doesnt screen tear above 60. I accidently left my monitor set at 60 hz and played and game and it was tearing like ass and i noticed and switched it back. 60hz is shit
Ryan Morris
Gotta be honest, the 8400 results seemed really weird to me. Have any anons confirmed that it does actually perform that well? That chip has a dogshit base clock
Juan Perez
why does the 1600x perform better than the 1700x despite equal cpu frequency and lower ram frequency?
Daniel Hernandez
>Clock for clock doesnt mean shit It does when you're trying to measure IPC.
Landon Brown
It's shit. Thus why no one buys it
Dominic Thompson
Here is the 8400 at 3.8ghz crushing the entire ryzen line up
Jason Lewis
Keep in mind the 1500x id 3.7ghz and costs 20 dollars less than the 8400. What idiot would buy this crap. Multicore is also much worse
Easton Cooper
Gotta think about the defect distribution across the cores. The 1700x has significant defects or it would be an 1800x. However, all 8 cores can still operate. For the 1600x, it's reasonable to assume that the majority of defects were concentrated in one or two cores, leaving the others nearly perfect. That means that if you pick the best core from a 1600 and the best core from a 1700, the 1600 probably has fewer defects and thus works better.