It's been 33 years, when will the industry move on and let it fucking die already?

It's been 33 years, when will the industry move on and let it fucking die already?

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never, cuck.

No reason to develop an alternative

If it works good enough, why replace it?

Hint: it doesn't.

it does work good enough, please prove him wrong

It's about to get concepts, compile-time reflection, and metaclasses. At that point it might actually become a reasonably expressive language.

Define: good enough.

Software is just an abstraction from machine language.

When

This. How much more can you really build on C and Lisp? Everything else is just sugar. Or salt masquerading as sugar.

I'm not the OP, but C++ just keeps getting more shit frankensteined onto it. It's already a bloated monstrosity and it's just gonna get worse when they staple on more features to a language that wasn't designed to have them.

Uhh the web has surpassed it sweetie. Nobody actually use native apps anymore.

It was *about* to get modules and reflection in - then called C++0x - a decade ago.
Everyone involved in C++ standardization committee are fucking full-on retarded.

And that's highly unlikely to ever change.

Why don’t they just “fork it”, clean it up but keep it similar enough that if you know C++ you know the new language? Is c# that basically?

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Just look at this shit.
Look at their favorite 10liners just to have a taste of how retarded and out of touch most of them are.

>Everyone involved in C++ standardization committee are fucking full-on retarded.
Sup Forums is right. Baby Boomers need to be drug into the streets and executed along with Gen X. Fuck I hate living in this shit timeline.

C# is not it.
C# is not ahead of time compiled (although it can be).
C# has GC, and everything is fragmented all over the heap.

It's a fine language for a different use-case, but not a C++ replacement by far.

Does all things well

C++ does nothing well.

I'm hard pressed to name one thing C++ does well (which is not part of C).

Abstraction with value semantics. Rust is the only other viable option.

Also true generic programming, modulo compile times.

It's more the methodologies that have come along with C++ and taken into Java, C#, then into D and Rust.

You can do everything in C. Do everything in Python. Do everything in x86.
What more do people really want? What do they really need?

If anything C++ doesn't do generic programming "well".

Not sure what you mean exactly by "abstraction with value semantics" though

The whole point of OP is almost *nobody* puts in any R&D dollar in compiled, statically typed, no-GCed languages to replace this clusterfuck.

There being almost no competition doesn't imply C++ does things well.
Nobody just seems to care (Rust an exception). Everyone's to busy writing js or using GCed languages

You don't need garbage collection. Ever.

That trend in GCs is evidence of people not programming properly.

Never said otherwise

Unrelated but I only know C and would like to learn a new language. Any recommendations?

>Rust is the only other viable option.

when something better exists

Mozilla explicitly created Rust to avoid the problems with memory handling errors in large C/C++ codebases that couldn't be punted to some GC language.

>Mozilla explicitly created Rust
This is not a good thing

When a superior replacement arises.
So, never.

>Not sure what you mean exactly by "abstraction with value semantics" though
Having complete control over memory layout and indirection makes it possible to create extremely cheap abstractions.

C++ is the most powerful programming language in the world.

>t. millennial snowflake

Nice fucking argument man, you sure showed him.