Prove that women can make good depressing music
Women that got it
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Aiden Nelson
grouper - ruins
Matthew Sanchez
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Jayden Cox
Jack Adams
Bjork got it. You can tell she went through some tough shit on albums like Homogenic and Vespertine
Grayson Walker
This is my least favorite life - True Detective qt
Wyatt Campbell
I have recently fallen I love with Vashti
Elijah Johnson
Last track on Cтыд и cpaм (the original version, not the modern remaster with ten bonus tracks)
Parker Jones
wow, thanks user
Parker Walker
Pram in general, but pic related also has the eponymous track about pregnancy anxiety.
Ayden King
Over at /lit/ we've already proved beyond any doubt that women are only capable of sadness and not depression. It's no surprise that fans of the lesser art aren't intelligent enough to realize that.
Aaron Sullivan
based PJ Harvey
Nolan Carter
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Aiden Clark
do you realise that you are on Sup Forums, right?
Christopher Bennett
Do you have that caption of the thread where a nice girl writes enthusiastically about her recent reads and anons rip her a new one and ends up leaving the toxic shithole forever?
Nathan Martinez
You're welcome Tori was a serious challenge to Bjork in the 90's. Most of her early discography are god tier
Jayden Sanchez
Jeremiah Price
Samuel Reed
>Plath and Woolf were only sad, not depressed
this is why I don't get on that fucking board, you guys are worse than Sup Forums
Chase Garcia
Juan Morales
Plath was just mentally ill
Jace Roberts
le schopenhauer face
Bentley Green
what the shit do you think clinical depression is
Ayden Wood
>Depression is not a mental illness
Josiah Walker
What is depression then?
Daniel Jones
>toriposting
Benjamin Ward
>bought into the depression is just a mental imbalance rather than a genuine emotional state meme
Hunter Russell
>Believing the mental illness meme
Enjoy your pharmajewticals ya retards
Charles Powell
muh anna kavan though
Charles Nguyen
>women can't have feelings like i do
You're like a child.
Eli Howard
Tori was my favorite artist in the 90's saw her live 3 times...phonominal live performances
Matthew Thompson
yes. Psychologists, psychiatrists, and neurobiologists, are all just memeing.
thanks for redpilling me, Sup Forums.
this is where the real science happens.
Oliver Morgan
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Basically, if i feel like listening to Tori I know I'm not in a good place inside.
Grayson Sullivan
>Women feel the exact same things as men
Take your leftist lies somewhere else
Brandon Walker
>mental imbalance
>genuine emotional state
What did he mean by this?
Colton Richardson
>ywn see her live in the 90's
I think she's still a great performer even now, shame about her compositional skills though.
Benjamin Garcia
The relationship between circumstance, environment, and biology isn't fully understood yet. The fact that depression can be triggered by external factors makes it more of an emotional state in my mind than an actual mental illness like schizophrenia.
John Cox
Ryder Mitchell
there are no emotions, only memes.
Samuel Foster
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Chase James
>The fact that depression can be triggered by external factors makes it more of an emotional state in my mind than an actual mental illness like schizophrenia.
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Carter Taylor
Claiming women can't be depressed is some next level neckbeard shit, it's strongly tied to the reason you're single.
Ethan Price
Easton Martin
People don't regularly become schizophrenic after a parent dies.
Alexander Nguyen
Female Slint desu
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Lucas Martinez
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Makes me feel sad
Chase Fisher
oh sorry, I was basing my opinion on science, not your mind. My bad
Eli Moore
I'm not single. Are you American? You sound like one given that you have to tell yourself that everyone who believes something you don't like is the human embodiment of some stereotype..
You're probably a leftist which is why you're dating a girl who's fuck countless men before you, is mentally ill, has dyed hair, and doesn't even go to church.
Matthew Rivera
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Lily Allen got those harsh truths
Jason Kelly
Pretty good shitposting thread so far desu
Jacob Hughes
Not really depressing but sounds a lot like slint
Brody Foster
>on science
lol psychology isn't a science. And, like I said, the relationship between environment and biology isn't fully understood. There are competing theories on what qualifies as depression, how one deals with depression, and how depression should be classified.
Austin Campbell
what do you think are the factors for schizophrenia?
Nathaniel Hall
My bad, here's something more reflective
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Oliver Robinson
Grouper
Joni Mitchell
Rachel Goswell
Mimi Parker
and many others...
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Ayden Morales
>psychology isn't a science.
Oh it's this meme again. Only pretentious mechanical engineering and physics undergrads believe this.
Brayden Johnson
This was such a different arrangement to the studio version of "Crucify'
Thomas Howard
These women got something
Nathaniel Cooper
>doesnt even go to church
fuckin lel m8
also, not the same user, but if you're going to hide behind a straw man fallacy the least you can do is reupholster your argument a bit to at least make an attempt at the subject matter
Jaxson Hernandez
This just got much better, cheers user
Jack Hernandez
Genetic predisposition to a malformed brain
Camden Reyes
Nolan Green
Yeah, it's pretty GOAT. This is also very different, especially the closer, and much better IMO
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Brayden Wright
It's not a fucking meme. I'm tired of "sciences" that eschew biological explanations in favor of environmental ones. The fact that psychologists do child rearing studies without controlling for genetics says everything.
Blake Morgan
>Muh informal fallacies
Go read a book you mongoloid shit. There's no reason to address the topic because it's not up for discussion. 2 + 2 = 4, magnetic monopoles don't exist, and women can't get depressed. All both theoretically and empirically proved facts.
Elijah Jackson
David Reed
My friend once told me that all women vocals sound the same and they make him want to kill himself so I guess they are doing a pretty good job.
Asher Russell
lol
Look up the word "psychology" in the dictionary
Then ponder the fact that we're on Sup Forums
Then use that newfound information to deduce how seriously your opinion is being taken
then go back to /lit/
Benjamin Nguyen
/lit/ is generally the smartest board, but its crossposters are among the dumbest.
>Reads Schopenhauer once
Jackson Butler
useless post. just say what you're trying to imply
Christopher Gonzalez
>the relationship between environment and biology isn't fully understood. There are competing theories on what qualifies as depression, how one deals with depression, and how depression should be classified.
>muh empirical facts
you're half of the discussion is looking pretty coherent
Caleb Morales
No problemo, the previous track is also great
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You should just listen to the whole album, even though it only gets depressing towards the later half of the album.
Nolan Bailey
Different areas of psychology are more scientific (by your definition) than others. Saying that psychology in general isn't a science is just stupid.
Easton Nguyen
Is this the argument you are trying to make?
>Depression is not internal/biological in its entirety but has to do with how one processes the environmental output
>Men are capable of accessing this special&deep emotional state; women are not
Correct?
Jonathan Flores
/lit/ is cool, got me into dostoyevski first
but then when I got into the same level of thinking with them it occurred to me that they are just a bunch of pompous little cunts
Adrian Murphy
you mean Julia Casablancas
Isaiah Wood
I'm implying that your a fucking idiot for saying psychology is not a science when the definition for psychology is the science of the mind.
I'm also implying that it's you(a Sup Forums user) vs modern science, so forgive me if I don't find your argument compelling
Now that you've been spoon-fed, go back to /lit/ where you can freely discuss your thorough knowledge of female neurobiology
Ryan Powell
Psychology today is basically alchemy as it was transitioning to chemistry. It's like 70% bullshit with sprinkles of truth.
Logan Flores
>Mount eerie - voice in headphones
>Björk - undo
can you explain it?
Cooper Robinson
where should i start with Dostoyevsky?
I was going to start with Notes from the Underground, but only because it's the shortest, I've heard good things about Bros Karamazov
Ian Morales
fucking faves
Its literally a song about Phil Elverum listening to Undo by Bjork. That's why it's called voice in headphones
Leo Peterson
>Implying it matters if psychology is scientific or not
Psychology has no interest in the lived world, thus it has no interest in experience, thus it is a shitty perspective from which to study my mind. It's just scientism repackaged.
Cooper Thompson
Psychology isn't a science; most schools put it under the humanities umbrella. It's closer to an offshoot of certain branches of philosophy. Let me reiterate: sciences don't do behavioral studies that don't control for genetics.
Joshua Murphy
listen to sharon van etten sing on all her cds about her bf beating the shit outta her. depressing as fuck or sexytiem erotic. you decide.
Hudson Hughes
Fuck off with this le freud, hippy bullshit. Depression, especially conditions that are chronic, derives from neurotransmitter imbalances and brain structure abnormalities. Stop spreading misinformation, faggot.You're not an authority on this subject and never will be.
Ian Anderson
Xavier Flores
Agreed. I heard the arrangement of Waitress/Hang ten during the tour she shared billing with Alannis Morresette ..so moody and powerful. or it might have been the Choirgirl tour. They all run together after awhile I guess. Anyway..was great live.
Juan Perry
I started with the crime and punishment but it doesn't really matter where you start
Jackson King
>derives from neurotransmitter imbalances and brain structure abnormalities.
You cannot get cause from effect, you absolute mongoloid. Every emotional state relates to chemical interactions in the brain. If depression was purely structural, people wouldn't suddenly suffer from it due to personal trauma.
Brayden Edwards
the idiot CHANGED MY FUCKING LIFe
read it now, before you die
Mason Ward
I'm nearing 10years of depression, medication and psychotherapy and all
I firmly believe that if i had the courage to live completely alone (ie hermit) i would be perfectly happy
Robert Rogers
Which of these do you think is better?
Joseph Rivera
No one posted Lisa Germano yet?
Parker Gray
I make an effort not to think in those terms, just enjoy them both in the ways that you do senpai
Adrian Taylor
thiiiissss
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Dylan Baker
>if depression was purely structural
I never said that. I'm fully aware life experiences and neuroplasticity have an influence on how the brain develops. However, implying that endogenous depression doesn't exist makes you short-sighted in your argument.
And you're saying environmental factors can't trigger schizophrenia or psychosis? You're plagued with tunnel-vision, no sense arguing with you.
Jaxon Davis
Benjamin Price
Why do you care?
Cooper Myers
Regina Spektor's song Hero always gives me the sads