How did Sweden, Spain and Switzerland manage to fight off Germany?

How did Sweden, Spain and Switzerland manage to fight off Germany?

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Spain didint really fought Germany off, they even send Spanish Soldiers to mighty eastern front

spain had its own shit going on,Switzerland hid the nazi gold,sweden sucked germanys D and ikea man got rich through free jew workers

So...the pen, truly is, mightier than the sword...woah..

>That Britain.
A bit scary.

Sweden fought of Germany by letting 1,3 million nazi soldiers travel thru Sweden to Norway

we did nothing wrong

not a single german boot on swedish soil

Good post.

What did he mean by this?

>not a single german boot on swedish soil

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being escorted away

never left the trains

>where are the swedish wimminz at

>tfw the good guys lost and now europe is being destroyed by anglo-american degeneracy and communist/bolshevik inspired green-leftist ideology
rip europa they had a good run

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>escorted away

is that what swedes calling the swedish government support to Hitler?

One step from annihilation because no lands for general Frost. Also Ireland was an axis.

We just had the advantage of living in the mountains.

And hiding the nazi gold

Yeah fuck sweden for allying with hitler!
You heard me sweden shoo shoo you nazi!

Adolf wanted to fug Switzerland. In the butt :D:D

>fight off
kek

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Not a single tier has been shed. Invader Monster has been slayed for a good.

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Swiss are cowards and using the Bank thing escaped the Reich annex.
Francisco Franco had an agreement with Hitler since before the War
Sweden... I don't have any clue, maybe required too many troops to invade it while there were other problems in the east so Germans decided not to involve her for the moment...

Meanwhile Ireland was drinking beer with a leprechaun at the end of a rainbow listening to good folk music with nice chicks dancing while getting drunk...

Ireland understood everything!

>Sweden
was ally with Germany

Nazi Germany bombed Ireland though, kek

Just for mistake, it wasn't intentional, they wanted to bomb you :D

How are we cowards for being neutral? Yeah, we would have lost against Germany, but we'd have destroyed you.

I'm Irish ;^)

invading Sweden would start a three front war that would end with the swedish flag over the Reichstag instead.

Everyone could destroy Italy, this country sucks at all!
But you can't just find yourself in the middle of the chaos and being indifferent without reasons. It's not enough to say to Hitler "I don't wanna get involved" to not get involved. You always use the Banks to cover up your ass... if this doesn't mean being cowards than I don't know what to say...

why would the nazis even invade their ally anyway

>Sweden
>win a war after 1721
Impossible

yeah, especially with tiny Swedish population vs 70 milion german one.

kys

Your fault for being cuck traitours to the Germanic race. You should've joined the axis like we did.

we were never germanic to begin with anyway

Norway is like the most germanic country in the world m8.

Well, we made pretty much a fuckton of money with the nazi gold deal, and they weren't our only client because of neutrality so we made some more. For me it sounds more like business than anything.

you wish mr. Sven Cuck Peterson

>we were never germanic to begin with anyway
t. sami

Couldn't have done it without ya buddy

Damn, Italy won the war from this situation, that's crazy

Why did Italy not get punished for WW2?

they a good boyz they dindu nuffin it was all mussolini's fault

Britain, like Russia, is tougher than it seems

>implying

Count your blessings that there's 30 kilometers of water between you and the mainland.

>Count your blessings that there's 30 kilometers of water between you and the mainland.

Is it magic water which doesn't let our enemies go through it on boats? Wow that's really cool

Don't play dumb, it's hard invading an island, if it wasn't for the channel german troops would be marching down piccadilly street by 1941.

For all his outward appearance of being stubborn and the whole "we shall fight them on the beaches" shtick, even churchill said that he would make peace with germany if the americans said "no".

They had active communist groups running around and we wanted to make sure they wouldn't fall to communism

Churchill was planning to drop chemical weapons on British beaches if they got through.

A power of Germany's strength with the resources of the Continent to draw on should be able to take Britain on and defeat it. You say it's hard to invade an island, Britain was invaded loads of times before the UK was a thing. In ww2 loads of islands were invaded

It's hard to defend against continent-sized powers. The RAF and the Red Army were both sorely tested

They wouldn't even need to get to the beaches. If the americans choose to be isolationist and not give a fuck, which was a distinct possibility which churchill feared, he would be literally forced to sign a conditional peace with germany. It's really that simple. Hitler had no interest in the british isles, he just wanted for britain to concede to the territorial changes in europe and to withdraw from the war. A naval invasion would be unfeasible and unnecessary.

>Britain was invaded loads of times before the UK was a thing

Are you seriously comparing shit like the norman invasion to a fucking modern day invasion? Even the success of operation overlord wasn't guaranteed with all the intelligence advantage the allies had, and they basically attacked the most lightly guarded part of france.

Yep you're confirmed for an idiot

>If the americans choose to be isolationist and not give a fuck, which was a distinct possibility which churchill feared, he would be literally forced to sign a conditional peace with germany.

No real help was coming from the Americans during the period when Britain was in greatest danger. The AMERICANS thought we were going to capitulate to Germany. They sat back and waited until the Battle of Britain was finished before deciding to commit to helping us. Lend-lease didn't even start until months after that battle.

Read:

>The battle also significantly shifted American opinion. During the battle, many Americans accepted the view promoted by Joseph Kennedy, the American ambassador in London, who believed that the United Kingdom could not survive. Roosevelt wanted a second opinion, and sent "Wild Bill" Donovan on a brief visit to the UK; he became convinced the UK would survive and should be supported in every possible way.[274][275] Before the end of the year American journalist Ralph Ingersoll, after returning from Britain, published a book concluding that "Adolf Hitler met his first defeat in eight years" in what might "go down in history as a battle as important as Waterloo or Gettysburg".

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Switzerland:
-Profitable economic partner (letting good go between Germany and Italy)
-Hide war loot and gold for Nazis in a neutral environment
-Not worth invading because:
1) More important enemies to defeat first
2) Small
3) No natural resources
4) Easily defendible thanks to Alps

That's it

Good god you just keep moving the goal posts.

Anyway I was just saying that you would be BTFO like any other european country if the UK wasn't an island.

If you did not start receiving US aid you would make a white peace with germany.

>Good god you just keep moving the goal posts.
No. You said if the Americans weren't involved then Churchill would have signed a peace with Hitler. If that was true, he would have taken Britain out of the war in 1940. The Battle of Britain was the critical moment when the UK was successfully defended, because that was the moment when the Nazis were focusing on attacking Britain only. After that battle they invaded the USSR and never seriously attempted to take us out of the war again. I.e., after the main danger had passed the American help came.

>Anyway I was just saying that you would be BTFO like any other european country if the UK wasn't an island.

If the UK wasn't an island our ENTIRE HISTORY would be completely different, you have no idea what would happen to us or if the UK would even have come into existence.

If you think about it, if the UK wasn't an island then the Nazis would have found it much harder to dominate Continental Europe. Because the British Army would be large, like the French Army was, you'd have two large Western European land armies opposing Hitler. Rather than one army and an expeditionary force.

That's assuming there would even be a UK if it was part of continental europe.

Yeah. UK probably wouldn't exist, but I'm playing along with the Croatian user's crazy games.

Maybe you'd have a bigger France with a much stronger army. Or the entire Continent would speak French because Louis XIV won the War of the Spanish Succession

they were in fact amicable-cooperator regimes with the reich

I don't know why people still say that Nazi Germany needed a place to hide war loot or gold.

Why the fuck would they have needed a place to hide.

What they needed was foreign currency to buy shit to other countries if needed.

Hence the fact that they sold some looted gold against Swiss Franc.

You are aware that churchill was most afraid of britains future during first few months of ridiculously successful submarine warfare which sunk a fuckton of convoy shipping rather than during the battle of britain? Britain needed those supplies, and it would certainly struck a peace with germany if the US governement choose not to support them, battle of britain notwithstanding.

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had the uk been a part of the continental europe, they would have gotten stomped by france like 10 times, since for basically 300-400 hundred years, france had like 4-5 times the population of england and hated england's guts. they could have steamrolled england at any point between 1400 and 1800

If you think about it, if the UK wasn't an island then it would have probably be a part of France.

Pretty sure nazi generals and officers (some) hide their wealth (or part of it) in Swiss banks

Ah yes the submarines, I wondered when you'd bring this up. Time for another dose of reality.

>At no time during the campaign were supply lines to Britain interrupted; even during the Bismarck crisis, convoys sailed as usual (although with heavier escorts). In all, during the Atlantic Campaign only 10% of transatlantic convoys that sailed were attacked, and of those attacked only 10% on average of the ships were lost. Overall, more than 99% of all ships sailing to and from the British Isles during World War II did so successfully.

>The reason for the misperception that the German blockade came close to success may be found in post-war writings by both German and British authors. Blair attributes the distortion to "propagandists" who "glorified and exaggerated the successes of German submariners", while he believes Allied writers "had their own reasons for exaggerating the peril".[74]

>Dan van der Vat suggests that, unlike the U.S., or Canada and Britain's other dominions, which were protected by oceanic distances, Britain was at the end of the transatlantic supply route closest to German bases; for Britain it was a lifeline. It is this which led to Churchill's concerns.[9] Coupled with a series of major convoy battles in the space of a month, it undermined confidence in the convoy system in March 1943, to the point Britain considered abandoning it,[75] not realizing the U-boat had already effectively been defeated. These were "over-pessimistic threat assessments", Blair concludes: "At no time did the German U-boat force ever come close to winning the Battle of the Atlantic or bringing on the collapse of Great Britain".[72]

So did so,e jews, french industrials etc... etc...

When talking about Nazi gold in Switzerland the main problem is that our banks accepted to buy gold from the Nazis knowing that this was looted.

If I recall correctly, the Swedish were fairly Nazi friendly, accomodated the Germans to a great degree via military transport, and told the Germans if they make a move, they will detonate the iron mines that Germany is relying upon.

We were actually spying on them and building up a counter-army in secret while harboring tens of thousands of jews, so we were simply neutral and accomplished way more than useless shits like Denmark.

Typical Norwegian lies

Yes, the Swedish government was doing that also. Along with feeding the German warmachine and turning Norwegian refugees away at the border.

True opportunists.

Sweden exported steel, the Swiss took all the gold, Spain was considered worse fighters than the Italians.

Why was churchill so afraid then?

Why should we help a country that threatened war with us 35 years earlier? Why should Swedes be bombed and die to protect a people that clearly detested us?

We helped you plenty while Norway was occupied. It's more than you deserve.

Here's a picture of Sweden sending aid to finland during the war. What did you selfish people do except lose?

He was afraid because he had no idea how much damage the Germans were taking, their numbers or capacity to prosecute the war. Intelligence operations were a thing but most of the info was shit or wrong. The only good information the British had was on British losses.

Besides, when you have all that responsibility you're going to be over-cautious. If you're a good leader.

Hitler suffered from the opposite problem. The Nazis' brilliant victory over France made them over-confident. They over-estimated their military capabilities and at the same time under-estimated the British and the Soviets.

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I believe Sweden was quick to respond with equal threats of war. Norwegians had no problems with the Swedish, but the resurgence of nationalism in the 19th century meant that Norway would be independent whetever his majesty in Stockholm liked it or not. Don't blame us just cause you can't hold your "empire" together.

Far more for the allied war effort than you sorry bastards ever did. Britain should have done with you in 1939 what they did to Iceland in 1940.

>Norway won WW2

This is what Norwegians actually believe

With the huge Norwegian merchant fleet being of invaluable assistance to the Allied during the war, Norway dealing irreparable damage to the German Kriegsmarine during the invasion, and dragging out the conflict in Norway for months, I believe we can say Norwegians punched above their weightclass. Meanwhile, Sweden was busy supporting the wrong side of history.

So you cannot claim with fucking certainty that he wouldn't have had buckled under the apparent pressure from germany and signed a peace.

It's easy being a general when you've got the hindsight.

>So you cannot claim with fucking certainty that he wouldn't have had buckled under the apparent pressure from germany and signed a peace.

Yes I can, because the moment of greatest pressure happened *before* the Americans came on board and he didn't buckle. I think Churchill himself said that his worst moment of the war was when France surrendered because it meant the British Empire was alone.

There is a reason why the period from the surrender of France to the invasion of the USSR is called The Darkest Hour.

It happened, it passed, no peace was signed, I win, you lose.

But churchill literally said and I quote "...the only thing that ever frightened me during the war was the U-boat peril"

>Sweden was quick to respond with equal threats of war
How else could we respond?

Anyway it doesn't matter why, it just matters that it happened. Norway made it very clear it didn't want anything to do with Sweden.

So, again, why should we have helped you? Why should our country burn and our people die for someone that didn't want anything to do with us?

>They sat back and waited until the Battle of Britain was finished
Cash and Carry was enacted in September 1939 you revisionist fuck

Churchill said a lot of things. Let's just leave it at that.

"Cash and Carry" was about selling products that could NOT BE USED IN WAR. It was not military aid. It was not military products.Britain was buying shit like that from all over the place.

The Norwegian government in 1905 wanted independence, not complete excommunication of Swedish. You make it seem as Norway and Sweden were enemies, when the truth was very different. No one expected Sweden to rush recklessly into war against Germany, but accepting Norwegian refugees would have been appreciated. Granted Sweden did start to accept refugees when it was clear Germany was losing, but the implications of that is not worth talking about.

There is also the whole pan-scandinavianism deal. Which I suppose one of the reasons why Sweden assisted Finland in the winter war. But it mostly died in the second Schleswig war, when Sweden refused to aid Denmark in their war against Prussia.

Also "Cash and Carry" was open to any country that wanted it, whatever their side in the war

What are you even talking about? Norwegians refugees were accepted from early 1940 and in addition to that we helped you train 15,000 soldiers. What more do you want? Värmland and Härjedalen?

There was just no politically sane reason to do anything more than we already did for a country that hated our guts. We were already walking a thin line with the Germans and the Allies as it were. And frankly we probably helped more by not being occupied. Most Danish jews were able to flee to Sweden and people like raoul wallenberg could work relatively safely under diplomatic immunity.

I have to go. I'd love to stay and discuss some more, as I think I would learn something, but that'll have to be some other time.

Anyway, it's true that Sweden did facilitate the training of Norwegian personell and disguised it. I forgot that part.

Haha that's ok. It's not like that anyway haha!
Finns aren't people anyway haha

Tfw days away from any front or allied support.

Germans still had to put us under military administration in order not to fuck their shit up

>yeah we got totally blown the fuck out but man we probably tied down like like three soldiers and a german shepherd we're fucking ace

t. first judenfrei country in europe

There was about a million Nazi soldiers in our territory.

Imagine if we were passive as norway or France and 900 000 could have left for eastern front

In 1943 partisans occupied the same number of nazi soldiers as the entire allied force in italy.

And that was without no support from anyone, in a middle of a civil war fighting with stolen german guna and old royal Yugoslav ones with 240 000 soldiers

But I am not surprised to see a croat glorify nazis at all.

>It was a lamentable fact that virtually no supplies had been conveyed by sea to the 222,000 followers of Tito. ... These stalwarts were holding as many Germans in Yugoslavia as the combined Anglo-American forces were holding in Italy south of Rome. The Germans had been thrown into some confusion after the collapse of Italy and the Patriots had gained control of large stretches of the coast. We had not, however, seized the opportunity. The Germans had recovered and were driving the Partisans out bit by bit. The main reason for this was the artificial line of responsibility which ran through the Balkans. (... ) Considering that the Partisans had given us such a generous measure of assistance at almost no cost to ourselves, it was of high importance to ensure that their resistance was maintained and not allowed to flag.

.t Winston Churchill himself

I am sure if you thank them more, they will reward you

Japano-Swede war crime denial alliance when?

>partisans

Those weren't only serbs you know?

not for long, they got us now