If you want help: >State the budget & CURRENCY for your build >List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)
CPUs: >NO i5 7500/7600K or i7 7700/K. THEY ARE DEFUNCT AND SUPERSEDED BY COFFEE LAKE >R3 2200G - Budget builds with or without a GPU >R5 1600 / i5 8400 - Great gaming (especially the i5 8400) or multithreaded use CPUs (especially the R5 1600) >R7 / Used Xeon / Threadripper / i7 - Heavy Multi-Tasking / VM Work / Mixed use
RAM: >Current CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3000-3200 MHz is ideal >Before buying RAM for Ryzen, check your Mobo's QVL or look for user reports
Graphics cards: >Crypto-Currency miners have driven GPU prices up (particularly Radeon) 1080p >MSRP of standard 1080p cards: 1050Ti, 140USD; 1060 3GB, $200; 1060 6GB, $230; RX 570 4GB, $170; RX 580 4GB, $200 >GTX 1070 if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 1440p >GTX 1070/Ti and 1080 are standard choices; currently overpriced >GTX 1080Ti if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 2160p (4K) >GTX 1080Ti
General: >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING >A 240GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor
Just a friendly reminder fuck buying refurbs and low profile 1050 Tis.
Brayden Turner
Le just le friendly le reminder that I suck Intel penis and want you to buy a doa from Intel system when a ryzen apu is a much better value
Colton Gomez
>suck Intel penis You too? We should meet up sometime.
Andrew Watson
The only thing holding back AMD budget for once is RAM price, as 2933+ is recommend for Ryzen in general but now more so for the Vegas. Intel cannot compete with these APUs, but benefit for lower speed RAM not mattering.
Brody Gonzalez
Haha friendly reminder that I'm gay brrrraaapp
Ryder Hill
Just a friendly reminder to always let Intel Jews have your sheckles
Evan Gonzalez
Friendly reminder Intel shill btfo, how can he recover?
Ian Allen
he can't since I exposed him in the previous thread as a shill
Jace Perry
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Henry Morales
Based, how did you do that?
Easton Scott
Oops
Ethan Perry
look at the first few posts in the thread, he got exposed and his thread was a failure
Henry Bell
Cryptocurrency is here to stay, right?
So why would GPU prices ever come down?
James Fisher
what is the best skylake cpu paired with a motherboard?
Oliver Morris
Difficulty increases while GPUs stay the same, so you either throw more GPUs at it, hope new GPUs can handle the diff curve, or pray on ASIC.
It's the meme coins which are sucking up GPUs because people want to keep it going.
Lincoln Reed
I think OP forgot to put that this was the autism edition of /pcbg/,
Daniel Long
There are finite coins. Eventually they will fuck off.
Colton Phillips
>Ryzen is pretty cheap >Neat >AM4 mainboards are pretty cheap >Neat >Check RAM and GPU prices >There goes my new build. Any idea when the prices are supposed to go down again? End of the year? 2019? I'm not willing to pay the current prices for that performance.
William Reyes
>R3 2200G I want to build a cheap pc with ryzen, but fucking RAM. 80€ for 8gb is ridiculous...
Jaxon Collins
Just a friendly reminder that getting a refurbished office PC with a 3rd or 4th gen i5(i7 if you get a lucky find) and 8-16gbs of ram is the absolute best deal poorfags can get right now.
All you gotta do is throw in a low profile 1050ti.
Michael Perez
Buy an APU, my friend, with as fast of RAM as you can purchase.
William Sullivan
They're not going down for a while, might as well save up
Even a ryzen 3 will destroy a refurbished office PC.
Liam Hill
Eh, its an option certainly but some prebuilts have proprietary layouts
Easton Gray
I'm tempted to "upgrade" to a used fx6300 at this point and be done with this shit for another couple for years.
Alexander Peterson
a 2200g
Anthony Nelson
What's your budget user?
Asher Martin
DELID
Asher Ortiz
>clearly say to get an i5 or i7 >post a video showing a ryzen 3 1200 beating a pentium
Camden Lopez
500 euro shekels for CPU+MB+RAM+GPU but I'm just not very impressed by the kind of performance I can get for that. Maybe the next generation of nvidia cards will change that.
Any idea when the 1050 successor is supposed to come out? Winter?
Ayden Harris
Observed
Andrew Mitchell
I love my refurbished office PC with a 3rd or 4th gen i5 (i7 if I got a lucky find) and 8-16gbs of ram!
All I gotta do is throw in a low profile 1050ti!
Matthew King
Probably around august, but thats just a guess.
Jack Mitchell
3 yo used office pc 200$ gtx 1050ti lp 180$
ryzen+mobo+ram 270$
Charles Sullivan
I'm only using my meager knowledge here, so bear with me >Bro has money to upgrade his pc, considers buying a 2k pre-built >I recommend a b350 tomahawk board, ryzen 5, and 1060 6gb >his psu, case, ssd, ram and fans can be reused Now that's all 900 bucks but he's trying to upgrade and use a vive. Are there more economical options?
>Any idea when the 1050 successor is supposed to come out? Winter? rumours are that ampere releases April 12 (gtx 2070, 2080), based on previous history we can expect gtx 2060 somewhere in May. not in stock though, they all are going to be out of stock
I appreciate the effort user but I'll just wait a couple of months and hope for the best. And probably pay even more for RAM.
I'm only interested in the budget options below 200 bucks anyway. So that likely means a 1150/2050(ti). Even if miners buy all the new nvidia cards hopefully that'll put AMD GPUs at a decent price point again. I don't really care about the brand when it comes to graphics.
Dominic Edwards
>tfw just decided to build my first PC last month >tfw happily set a $600 budget Well I guess I’m shelling out over a grand now
Owen Allen
2050ti will be released even later (like october). nvidia are jews and they release high end cards first so impatient people buy them instead of budget cards
Nathan Fisher
Ok guys i just RMA'd my RX 560, should i wait and get my replacement or buy a 1050ti by paying the price difference?
Jaxon Wood
friendly reminder to not do this
Nicholas Richardson
270? Try $320 for a OC capable mobo, with 3200mhz ram that is on your mobos QVL list.
Unless you actually plan on using an APU with 2400mhz ram.
John Jenkins
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Josiah Lopez
I'm in the market for a new CPU. Is the Ryzen 3 1300X a good option for the money?
Daniel Price
r8 pls. Can I save money on RAM or motherboard? Is this SSD any good?
Jonathan Richardson
and R3 1200 would be a huge upgrade over an A10 6800k , I already have a cheap Ryzen Motherboard
Joseph Watson
What's generally the best strategy when deciding how to orient your case fans? I've got one in, one out, never had any problems.
Also, what can I do to make the fans on my GPU sound less annoying? Card's pretty old, but it's got two giant fans on it instead of some bad-ass looking shroud.
Isaac Murphy
Always have more intake fans than outtake fans.
Ryder Harris
Seasonic M12II 520 Bronze, G.Skill DDR4, and the B350 PC Mate are cheaper. Look for a mx300 m.2 drive and a double fan GPU for better cooling (Gigabyte, MSI or EVGA if possible)
Charles James
>AMD poozen
David Foster
If you have a GPU yes, if not get a 2200g
Wyatt Taylor
Equal in/out means that your fans aren't working against each other, but having more intake means that you force dust out of your case as the air finds more paths out. You can set a fan curve in afterburner, or you can remove the fans entirely and strap some Noctua fans onto the heatsink (which will also increase cooling performance because card fans aren't usually high-performance).
Asher Hernandez
just get a apu
Jackson Sullivan
every time
Tyler Evans
I have a GPU already, but it's fairly old. Gonna wait until the new wave of crypto faggots calms down before I buy a new one
Ayden Price
Is ASUS ROG STRIX B350-F GAMING a good mobo and worth it? Does it support 3000MHz RAM? Is it worth spending a little more on a mobo and high speed RAM rather than MSI B350 MATE with 2400 RAM which isn't that much less expensive?
Anthony Collins
The Asus B350-F has better VRM heatsinks than the PC Mate but it works great, spending more on fast RAM is worth it
having to buy new ram makes the numbers never work out. i have 16gb ddr3 on my 1st gen i5. :(
i was going to buy a ryzen 2220g.
Oliver Cooper
Bump should i do it? 1050ti is almost the double price of the 560 and i would be paying a large amount as tge difference, however i need them cuda acceleration and i cant run heavy skrim enb's with the 560.
Julian Taylor
I noticed my RAM wasn't running at its advertised speed of 3200. I read that enabling XMP in my BIOS would help get it to that speed, but when I go to save and exit, I don't get any signal, certain parts aren't on or aren't completely on (GPU front light isn't on but top light is, CPU/VGA/DRAM/BOOT status LEDs are on, sometimes they stay at a specific light but often alternate between the four, etc.). I noticed when I actually enable this there's an XMP light that's on for a bit near the RAM slots but then turns off. At this point I either wait for the PC to do something or remove the CMOS battery and put it back in, both of which reset the BIOS to its default state.
Pic related: It's my Speccy (note my CPU was overclocked to 4.8GHz, may or may not switch lower)
Me and my friend who's an expert at computers have been at this for about a day and we're completely out of ideas. Any and all help would be greatly appreciated. If you need any more information, please ask.
Carson Butler
Need something for a friend... He will play at 1080p, it's just an upgrade from a ps4... What do you think about it? I should stay near 700€ (I'm from Italy, EU) it.pcpartpicker.com/list/sqrgTH
Isaac Cox
Yeah apparently it can be hit or miss if the module will actually run at that speed, on that board, with that particular CPU.
Dominic Wilson
try upping the memory voltage a tick with XMP enabled. your CPU overclock may be causing issues as well. you can try to tune down your overclock temporarily(along with boosting memory voltage) to see if it helps at all.
Xavier Phillips
forgot to ask, what die is your memory? some hit 3200mhz easier than others.
Jason Phillips
I actually followed Gigabyte's overclocking guide and I did mess with the voltage and it still did that. This was about 2 weeks or so ago. I'm gonna try this in a bit. Thanks!
Thomas Price
Hi guys Tell me what do you think about this build I'm planning playing PUBG, Fortnite, Kingdom Come Deliverance
Easton Butler
I'm a bit retarded when it comes to parts. What does "die" mean in this case?
Camden James
Does anyone know of the best way to set up automated in-stock alerts for GALAX store GPUs? They aren't listed on inventory tracking sites since they are a niche manufacturer. I'm guessing watch the store page for a change in the DOM elements?
I've just been browsing around my local retailer's store (considering to buy/upgrade my PC for the first since 2011), and I spotted this thing selling for a price like 50% lower than anything close to comparable (at least as far as Ghz x Cores goes, I really don't know how to compare CPUs).
It seems too good to be true, and the odd product number really isn't encouraging me here (X series? xx40?). So what exactly is the catch?
Brandon Gomez
A piece of outdated garbage.
Jeremiah King
Depends. If we have another crypto bullrun anytime soon prices won't significantly come down. If there's enough time between each hype cycle prices will flatten out though (happened between spring and autumn runs last year)
Fairly launched PoW coins will always be an alternative to premined ICO tokens.
Nathaniel Scott
It needs an expensive motherboard, and it's a 4 core 4 thread CPU in >current year
Easton Roberts
i cant find what die your memory is. if you wanna find out, you can download thaiphoon burner(google it, youll find it) and it will tell you. if its anything but samsung b-die, you may have trouble hitting 3200mhz. id suggest lowering your CPU oc; the voltage in particular, and raising memory voltage a tick or two and trying again. mighta just got unlucky though, not all ram can hit those speeds.
Angel Barnes
Turn down 4 watt
Leo Gray
>It needs an expensive motherboard Can't be THAT bad since I'm basically paying half for the same amount of Ghz I would have been.
>it's a 4 core 4 thread CPU I really don't mind. I've been using a i5-2500K and it's been serving me fine up until now.
I was just wonder if it's some oddly specialized shit like "oh, it works GREAT for virtualization, but chugs like a fat middle aged whore when trying to do literally anything else" sort of deal.
Dominic Turner
Basically everything supports 3000MHz, which is the ideal price/performance for Ryzen.
Jaxson Bailey
that was kabylakex i think, now called core-x series. i dont remember exactly, but this is what intel launched after skylake i think, or kabylake, i dont know. the platform had some major problems. i think the cpus all ran absurdly hot. dunno much about it other than that. it launched pretty much dead on arrivall didnt compete well with ryzen i dont think.
Bentley Smith
it's a 2066 socket, so it uses expensive x299 boards
Hunter Jackson
Does it mean I have to buy liquid cooling if I pick it?
i dont know for sure if they ran hot. dont really know intel and know even less about that platform, sorry. youd probably be better off with a coffee lake chip or ryzen. no one bought that kabylakex stuff, im sure theres a good reason for it.
Justin Taylor
Thanks mate! I really appreciate it :3 Will go with this and build it up as soon as I can
Christopher Perez
It's nominally a 112W TDP chip, and its heatspreader is not soldered to the chip, so it's worse at transferring heat.
Eli Thomas
I want to keep running Windows 7 without resorting to weird BIOS tinkers. Would Lake Chip or Ryzen justwerk?
Josiah Green
sup anons which is the ideal speed to perma oc a ryzen 5 1600?
Thomas Brown
Whatever you can hit at the best voltages with your cooling, and also stable. 3.7 should be free, higher is lottery up to 4.1
Luis Rodriguez
yes you can get them runnin on 7, but youll be locked out of certain things. certain updates will be unavailable to you. you may also experience instability. some people get little to no instability, others get random crashes constantly. you could always dual boot windows 10 and linux. or maybe windows 10 and windows 7 heh?
