Is spain considered first world?

fucking shithole lad, this country is a fucking tourist trap land, rude people every where,shitty salaries , massive unemployment, dirty streets , uneducated people etc...i hate living here.

i want to live in NZ , probably i will change my surnames

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Yes. Poland is first world too.

north of spain and the big cities are for sure first world

the rest maybe not

i'd rather live here than new zealand (i'm canadian actually) there's nothing to fucking do in new zealand it might sound nice but you'd want to leave once you got there

You live in literal paradise with a rich culture and history in a physically beautiful country with great weather, why do you faggots like to complain?

poland is not first world by any definition of the word

1st world: germany/norway tier
1.5 world: spain/italy tier
2nd world: latin america tier
2.5 world: middle east tier
3rd world: nigger africa tier

>rude people every where
M8 spain has by far the nicest people I've met outside of maybe the midwest US. The people here are certainly nicer than in New Zealand.

>You live in literal paradise
no, trust me, i want to change my surnames like charlie sheen

it is

is very easy to complain and blame others of your shit while you do anything to change it, just adaptate yourselve

Beside memes :
Even if they were hardly affected by the 2008 economic crisis, compared to the rest of the world, yes they still are a rich country.
And yes, they are a fird world cunt. (dixit a guy who spent his vacation in Spain).

you have never lived here , and your family is not unemployed

why don't you have a job you speak english you can get something

>why don't you have a job you speak english you can get something
0 jobs here

I bet ur a faggot commie

I bet u even vote podemos or other self hating left winger cuck piece of shit, fgt

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>dirty streets
Where? Everywhere I've been in Spain it has been pretty clean. More so than Oslo for sure, kek. Your infrastructure is also top tier.

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VETE D MI PAIS ROJO MASON
VIVA ESPAÑA :DDDD
ESPAÑ
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>More so than Oslo for sure
I dont belive that
Yes, you might not belive it, but this is the first world

move to a city faggot it's easy to get a job in madrid and the economy is improving

I'm in Spain for studies at the moment, and outside of going to Madrid for some discotecas, the fuck is there to do on a Saturday night? Tapas and cervezas?

How the fuck do I make some Spanish friends? My Spanish is only conversational at the moment, and I've only been here 5 days so....

Rajoy is doing great everything is great Spain is best Mexico Ok
You dont like spain fgt? Fine guess what cunt
nobody likes a whiny little bitch

Where are you from?

What part of spain you in? I'm studying in Madrid and also looking to meet spaniards. Everyone I've met so far is Erasmus it seems hard to make friends with the locals on limited spanish. I guess I'll just have to put myself out there and talk to people

good goy

If Spain is so bad, move to Latin America and see how much you will love Spain then.

That's because most of them don't know how to speak English, not because they're rude if you thought it.

>How the fuck do I make some Spanish friends?
How? I would like to know too :)
Im from spain

i don't think they're rude the people i've talked to have actually been very nice

and most speak decent english at my university here. i just suck at making friends at home and it's even harder in a foreign country to join a new already established group of friends

I've been to Spain on holiday and it felt second world desu

I bent to sapin on liday ad it fel econ wol
fgt

Murrica
Madrid. Well, I'm like 20km outside of Madrid but only 30 mins away from Sol on train.
No, I don't think they're rude. It's just a language barrier thing. I am only conversational atm, and like you said, very few speak English. So when I do try and talk I either get a really excited Spainard talking to me very quickly and hard to understand, or I get one that tries to speak English with me and it just kind of makes it awkward in a way?

Only been here 5 days out of a 6 month stint so I am still optimistic.

modova is third world, and it's a pretty decent country

sudamerica = africa , also we are second world,

NO WE ARE NOT
DONT LISTEN TO THIS GUY

but we are lad

callate tonto

Come on, of course Spain is first world-tier.
Don't believe memes. This is stupid.

you should shut up when your family escaped from franco regimen , you have never lived here, you fucking pierre garcia

this

Si encuentras a un alguien hablando mal de Inglaterra, es un frances
Si encuentras a alguien hablando mal de Francia, es aleman
Si encuentras a alguien hablando mal de españa, es español

hum, yes indeed.
that does not stop me to say that Spain is, Today, a first world country.
>been in Barcelona last year
>great people, great hotel, great city.
Honestly you guys are great, and your cunt too.
And for what I saw, It's just an average west cunt. Absolutely not thirld world or shit. It's just shitty memes.

>Also your Sausages are Fucking good.

pues aqui te vas quedar viviendo con un salario de 700 € de mierda ( si encuentras trabajo) tu , por que yo me piro

come home brown man.

>Also your Sausages are Fucking good
t-thanks

so, are you a son of commie? shut up then,

HE LIKES SPAIN
HE IS NOT A COMMIE

minimun wage in France is 1400 € wtf lad? minimun salary in asspain is 700 with high taxes, what are you talking about? again you have never lived here... no industry no jobs ..literally hell

>asspain
this triggers me so much

pues te jodes

It's something like 1010€ after taxes.

ESPAÑA ES TU MADRE ROJO TRAIDOR!!!!
HABLARIAS MAL DE TU MADRE!?

It's not enough to afford a rent. Where do you live guy?

maybe life is less expensive in Spain, too?
what is 700 euros in Spain? Anyway, you're right, never lived in your cunt. B-but I wish...

Go to Somalia and then tell me what is hell

How is life in a small city in Spain on minium wage?

irrelevant

half of Spain is a barren wasteland dude

Minimum wage is low in Spain. It's about 750€ if you get 12 salaries or about 650 in 13. If you have a temporary contract (contrato de obra) it's about 800€.

However, life in small cities is very cheap, and education, healthcare, retirement, etc. is "free" (already paid in taxes).

Public transportation is very good, with the highest number of subways, high-speed trains, highways and even tramways nowadays (only after Germany, France, and a couple more) in the world.


Spain is a very first world country in all aspects with the problem of low wages and high unemployment compared to north Europe.

Our culture is also different to North Europe, but that would be like saying that Texas or San Francisco aren't first world.
We are a very colourful buildings, very outgoing people with the highest amount of bars per capita, etc. We have the same number of bars than the USA while having 1/7 of their population.

>Colombian education

And our deserts are rich in wild life, or corn field steppes, etc.

I've been there. It's super barren in many parts

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>minimun wage in France is 1400 € wtf lad? minimun salary in asspain is 700 with high taxes, what are you talking about? again you have never lived here... no industry no jobs ..literally hell

There is a lot of industry in Spain. We are one of the biggest makers of cars in the world, also trains, boats, military equipment, planes, etc.

The problem is that we got 7 million immigrants in less than 10 years and then the bubble busted.

7 million immigrants, fucker. Spain increased it's population by almost 25% very fast, and almost all of those were of working age, of course there are no jobs.
But we create 500k per year now.

ayy thats my city

Spain is right at the line of first world. Spain has a lot of potential that it isn't living up tbqhfrf(to be quite honestly for real family)

How to make Spain part of the First World:

1. Get rid of reds (communists, socialists, gays, etc)
2. ?????
3. PROFIT

Spain was first world in the old definition and first world in this new definition.

I like this guy

pls tell me how is life in Cantabria, I always wanted to go
>literally getting rid of the 99% of Spanish university students

it seems something went wrong with education at some point

a diverse industrialized economy would be first world

spain is periphery

Vote podemos friendo

It's difficult to judge.
Spain has a lot of stuff similar to Greece. There are tons of rural houses with pools that were built on free soil that now it's considered rustic and not urban. So many of such houses are considered non-existant, and not in our GDP.
You take a look with Google maps around cities like Zaragoza, Cordoba or any other and you see a lot of big houses...but they don't appear anywhere, and are mostly used as summer or weekend houses.

There's also a 25% of black market GDP to avoid taxes.


And there's the ugly buildings, commieblocks from the 50s-80s in the cities. Industrialization happened in most of Spain in the middle of the 20th century. 100 years later than the most developed countries.
This has shaped the country in a different way.

For example France has a lot of small cities and villages because in the early stages of industrialization the factories were set up near the natural resources. In the second stage the factories were built around the cities (due to improvement in transportation). Spain got industrialized in this stage.
This shaped also the urbanism. France is more suburban-looking than Spain. Lower density in the average city.

Old houses are poorer looking and smaller than French ones, for example.

I'm happy and optimist about my country.

Only cucks and commies vote podemos
BTW they are financed by iran and Venezuela

What are you a fucking PPero? Id argue that's the ultimate cuck seeing how they've fucked your nation with their corruption and you still beg for more

And most of that industry are foreign, we are the second European producer of cars but we don´t even have a single firm, just sad.
Also the car industry is highly automatic and all the material, the steel the aluminum even the cast pieces come from abroad.
This country has only one solution
Fun, a bootlicker calling others pussy, nice meme

No, lol. You can't even drink tap water in Spain..

Would you like another cup of zapatero?
Didnt we had enough of that shit?
We deserve a sensible left not a bunch of extremist college kids

>retirement
you should see that closer or you can end bad (a quien engaño lo mas probable es que mueras trabajado o de mendigo)

I'll admit I don't know what Spanish college kids are like but ateasf podemos wants to try new shit. Their agenda is very ambitious but also seema to aim at getting rid of a lot of bureaucracy and inefficiencies in the Spanish state

>communist complaint about "bootlicking"

Don't be a faggot.

In which city?

How do we stop Spaniards from being such self haters?

>Spanish college kids
Most of Podemos comes from here

Gib monis

Is not new is the same old shit that the rest of europe left behind many years ago
plus they want MORE bureaucracy more state

Are you spanish? How do you know that?

Its impossible to many left wingers here who hates themselves and everyone else that lives in the same country

I'm not Spanish but I've looked at their agenda on their website.

lel.. how does that even matter?

>Podemos economic policy.

Shoot all the leftist. Bam! More lebensraum and a country full of patriots.

just so you foreign guys know, this guy is a specimen of a new breed of young man created by the economic recession and unemployment (thank you EU).

he's just like a neet from any of country except in spain neets blame society and because of the recession people actually empathizes with them and believes it's not their fault. this validates their opinion that it's all other people's fault and since they also have no fire in their asses to get a job since they live with their parents, they never change. they claim there are no jobs in spain and never stop to think that the whole reason their parents can sustain them is because they work and so does the people producing the stuff their parents buy them.

con esa actitud te va a ir mal a donde vayas tambien, estas avisado, luego no llores

See you trolling there

>tfw i didn't do an erasmus in madrid

severe regret

> "extremist"
zapatero did nothing literally and he sold Spain to Germany, he was a traitor not even lefty to sodem standards
I hate the way that Sander corrupt that order equating soc dem to dem soc.
still better than bend to germany and spread your checks

What they offer is just bullshit plain and simple, In the rest of europe they left that bullshit behind years ago They are just trying to profit from the economical crisis thats all they are.

Hahaha

"Why does a country have to pay taxes when they can print money"
Tell this to any educated european tell me what they think

well you got it wrong. the thing about podemos is, they're good at propaganda. they claim to want to do a lot of different stuff, and most importantly, they're ambigious and leave things up for interpretation, that way everybody thinks they mean what they want to hear.

i heard from a friend from college that they will make sure every engineer has a job by promoting spain's industry, sjws on the other hand think that they will wreck the economy so we can all be rich (kek), and so on

in the end they are just good old leftists that honestly seem to hate it when the economy goes well because they try their hardest to prevent it