Why does Sup Forums not like Octavarium?

why does Sup Forums not like Octavarium?

because astonishing was my introduction to them and while its aoty I dont really like it enough to explore their discography

I was more intrigued to go back through the discography of fleshgod apocalypse who I was also introduced to this year

Listen to Images and words nigger its not that long and wanky as the others.
and its so good you don't want to miss it.

Because you have to be 18 or older to use this site.

ok well I'll at least put it first on the list if I do since otherwise I would have been inclined to just go in reverse chronological

Because rudess's keyboard sound is absolutely horrendous.

/thread

>trying this hard

Good reason right here. Rudess ruined DT.

Is there a flowchart for getting into Dream Theater?

This is a cheesy band listened to by 14 year olds who want to seem sophisiticated. The band is ridiculous, and is honestly on par with DragonForce. It's the idea of what music should be, as understood by a kid from a suburb in middle America who's never been exposed to it. People who like them usually list favorites as "Mozart, Beethoven, and rock music like Dream Theater", despite the fact that the only bands they listen to regularly are Dream Theater and Linkin Park, though they also like the song "Wish You Were Here" so they can feel like they're into Pink Floyd

most of the tracks are really cheesy.
the last one is not bad though.

>not liking music because of the people associated with it
spotted the pleb

Except Metropolis pt.2 is DTs best work

well it really doesn't help that it's also utterly soulless technical wank scales at 220bpm with cringey keyboards and lyrical wailing.

>cringey
opinion devaluated

>utterly soulless technical wank scales at 220bpm with cringey keyboards and lyrical wailing.
>take_my_money

It's not groovy like Images & Words and Awake.

I do enjoy Root of All Evil though.

secondeded

hey man whatever floats your boat, i can't ask you to stop enjoying things.

i solemnly apologize for not using your preferred variety of vocabulary, i hope someday you can find it in you to forgive me :'(

It's ok but was the poorest in a run of good albums so the drop off was noticeable.

1999 Metropolis Pt. 2: Scenes from a Memory

2002 Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence

2003 Train of Thought

2005 Octavarium

Because DT is a shitty band with shitty songwriting, a shitty singer and a shitty keyboarder.

t. Jazzfag

also while on topic you should also listen to liquid tension experiment its basically dream theater but without the singer and tony levin on bass.
personally i like their shit better then dreams.

This, levine's a boss

James labrie.

it sounds like muse