How would the southern states of Brazil last as its own country?

How would the southern states of Brazil last as its own country?

Join with Uruguay

Or not. They could become a portuguese speaking Uruguay.

they wouldnt they depend on us for everything

It would collapse.

Why would they?

It would be a poor hotzone for human trafficking, weapon trafficking and drug trafficking. I mean, it already is all the things i described, but whenever they're in need, the BRAZILIAN national guard goes there to save their asses. As i write this post, the BRAZILIAN national guard is defending the streets of Rio Grande do Sul. If they were independent, the BRAZILIAN national guard wouldn't protect them and BRAZILIAN satellites wouldn't scout their borders for traffickers.

Is Rio Grande do Sul a nice city? I like cities in peninsulas surrounded by water.

Would it actually be a white country, ow would it be Argentina """white"""?

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It would prove once again than whiteness is literally a social construct, since nobody can define it

>BRAZILIAN satellites
Brazil has satellites? With optics good enough to scout a border? U srs?

we do have the tech but the US prevented us from launching it by blowing the whole space complex apart

I imagine he means illegal airfields, those are used for smuggling drugs in Paraguay, Bolivia, and the regions of Brazil and Argentina close to those countries.
Then from Argentina and Brazil it is sent to Europe.

It's Chinese.

It would be better than it is now. Literally every part of brazil would be better as its own thing than they are now as it wouldnt have the fat federal gov and the overpayed workers sucking up the money.

Putting the gov closer to the people would improve it a lot.

Dunno. Rio Grande do Sul is a leftist stronghold, whiel Santa Catarina is the opposite. Paraná is more balanced, but we call it 'Brazilian Russia' for a reason.
I don't think separating would be a good idea, but Brazil needs to develop other areas more so many people here and in Southeast would move there and alleviate urban problems

Rio Grande do Sul is an entire state
I guess you mean Porto Alegre
I think it is - half of its population moved to Florianópolis, but for some reason they still say Porto Alegre is better

I meant this

Oh
Hm, I guess. I rather Santa Maria (full of colleges, lots of young girls) and Passo Fundo (very well structured city)

It's a dumb idea for hundreds of reasons.
What the southerners want with secession is economic independence, right now Paraná receives back about only 20% of the taxes it pays, SP is 10% I believe. The rest of the money goes to the poorer states not only as welfare but as infrastructure and such.

But you don't need secession to fix a government's policies, it's not like we're in a civil war or anything, people are just pissed at the shitty unfair taxation and none of the other reasons matter, cultural differences aren't a reason for separation.

I thought that only happened in Argentina.

The province of Buenos Aires pays 34% of the taxes, and gets back only 18%. the City of Buenos Aires (a different province) produces 25% of the taxes, and gets back 3.7%. It used to be only 1.5% and the other provinces complained when it was raised to 3.7%

There are some provinces that independent would be as poor as African Countries, that mantain themselves with money from richer provinces, in which everybody works for the state and the gobernor is like a feudal lord.

that happens everywhere but the USA, and look how unequal US states are

idk, but the united states of the southeast and the south would be the greatest country in south america.

If it had good immigration and visa laws I would move to this fictional country

tfw Brazilians post white male models when they have super hot mega macho pardos with porn tier monster cocks

t. Argentine homo

you think thats bad, you dont have native reservations

pays 0% tax and wants everything FREE including roads hospitals, schools, etc.

that is 30% of our territory

What's the point of native reservations when you're all índios? Do they have that in Bolivia or Peru too?

Rio Grande do Sul is drowning in debt for ages.
They would have Itaipu generating energy in Paraná, so, that is a plus.

That is more than half of the countrys population and about 80% of its economy.It woulndt be a brand new country, just an alternative brazil without its poorest an most miserable states

How would it be called? Isn't there a better name for the region?
"South Brazil" makes it sound like it was Brazil's cuckold and sound africa-tier

there are 3 pardos in the pic bro

Sao Vicente

and the North would be Pernambuco

Hueland

South Brazil would basically be a bigger Uruguay.
The only state in Brazil that could hold on its own would be São Paulo. They have the highest production of oranges, rubber, sugar, coffee, oil, ethanol, and among the 3 largest producers of cattle and minerals. They hold more than half of Brazil's services, and about a third of all industrial output. With a population of 50 million inhabitants, its where almost all Japanese Brazilians settled, as well as German, Italian, Portuguese, Spanish and Syrian immigrants from the 19th century. São Paulo state has produced the most art in all of Brazil.

t. japanese brazilian return immigration

Niggerburg

Just call it a zoo.

Why?

Wtf

Never seen surra de bunda?

I remember when it was meme of the week on this board. Where did everybody from way back go?

We're actually more industrialized than Uruguay. And there's no such thing as "hold on its own", we're a globalized economy not North Korea. Mercosul itself ensures free trade policies between Brazil, Paraguay, Argentina and Uruguay where we all benefit greatly from it, although I agree São Paulo has the trading power radiance that's the most important in the region.

But change that flag please, it looks so bolivian....

Never been to Serra Gaúcha? We receive numerous Argentine tourists all year.

So is everything. x is a social construct is reductionism

That's a good ammount of memes you said m8. Made me giggle.
Meh, on per capita terms there is no one that pays more federal taxes than Rio. This was never really the reason why some southerners want to secede and you know it.

White Brazilians behave no differently from brown ones. It's the same manners, same promiscuity, same taste for shitty songs. Don't believe the memes about highly educated white Brazilians who speak 5 languages and have 3 university degrees.

Can confirm. I'm SB therefore Germanic and definitely a degenerate.