Previous thread: 1/2 >Why would I use openSUSE over the other distros? -Graphical installer with many installation patterns for different Desktop Environments or minimal installations -Built in snapshots(similar to Windows Restore Points) through Btrfs and Snapper: en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Snapper_Tutorial -YaST GUI configuration tools -Automated package testing through OpenQA: openqa.opensuse.org/ -Proper KDE, Firefox integration -Stable release with Leap, latest rolling with Tumbleweed -Service status page: status.opensuse.org/ -Find and install openSUSE packages through software.opensuse.org -If software.opensuse.org is down, try: opensuse.pkgs.org/ -openSUSE build service, build your own packages! openbuildservice.org/
>openSUSE is horribly bloated by default! Yes, the default installation patterns install quite a few packages, try the Server(Text Mode) or Custom option during installation to specify installation patterns:
>Why does openSUSE install all these dependencies I don't need? The packagers determine dependencies, they've gone for features over slim. You can turn that down. After installation, open etc/zypp/zypp.conf and change: solver.onlyRequires = true solver.cleandepsOnRemove = true
2/2 >Can I use RX Vega with the opensource (AMDGPU) driver? Yes but this does require using Tumbleweed and developer repositories to ensure the latest Mesa, Xorg, OpenGL and Wine version (and others), breaking some dependencies in the process.
>Firefox is slow! OpenSUSE will install Firefox ESR(Extended Support Release) by default because of its stability. You can install the latest (and faster) Firefox from software.opensuse.org/package/MozillaFirefox Click "other versions" to find the package for Tumbleweed.
I wanna try this. Is kde llighter than gnome? Can the installer automatically dual boot with windows 10 or i have to partition stuff?
Aiden Bell
> Is kde llighter than gnome? Definitely yes > Can the installer automatically dual boot with windows 10 or i have to partition stuff? Idk, partition stuff isn't hard
Elijah Green
>KDE My openSUSE tumbleweed VM with KDE shows 624M used without any applications open.
>Dual boot Have not tried multiple OSes on same disk in a while, mostly because either linux or windows tended to fight over booting. Highly recommend to use separate disks or even a VM.
Charles Robinson
>Can the installer automatically dual boot with windows 10 or i have to partition stuff? I think yes, but do the reduce job with the windows partitionner before to be sure
Jace Perry
I'll go Opensuse once they'll deliver a low-latency kernel for audio stuffs in their repo
Michael Young
reminder that the only way to update your system on tumbleweed is zypper dup otherwise it literally breaks your system, they dont tell you this when you install, you have to figure it out on your own or stumble upon it on community sites
>lwn.net/Articles/717489/ > That is why the consensus recommendation for Tumbleweed is to use dist-upgrade with the --no-allow-vendor-change option, regardless of whether one is an expert or not.
Dominic Anderson
--no-allow-vendor-change is the default, zypper dup IS equivalent to zypper dup --no-allow-vendor-change unless you change it in the settings
Lucas Long
didn't know that
Logan Williams
Thanks, I'll add that to next post!
Aaron Adams
how does openSUSE stands out from a whole bunch of rolling release distros in terms of stability and user-friendliness? currently i will go for openSUSE or manjaro
Josiah Cruz
>how does openSUSE stands out by breaking itself randomly. Go with Manjaro and don't pay attention to the SSL/homepage fiasco meme
Gabriel King
Even leap breaks itself or is it stable?
Andrew Scott
Best distro ever. I started in 98...ipchains, sendmail, apache and deslogin. Those days are lost.
Jonathan Garcia
I personally like OpenSUSE because of the easy setup of full disk encryption and btrfs snapshots.
Colton Myers
I never understand how opensuse snapshot works. For exemple if I do a zypper dup on Tumbleweed and everything breaks, can I boot on a previous snapshot ?
David King
They made it default in July 2017
Landon Gonzalez
Leap is stable. Tumbleweed is rolling and will break but for that we have snapper or even a restore through grub. As for user-friendliness: installation wizard and GUI are well done in openSUSE, codecs and fonts need additional setup, cannot comment on Manjaro as it's been a while, will give it a go in a VM.
I tried this a while ago and one of my issues was that it booted slower than pretty much anything, ubuntu, debian, arch.
I found out recently about the codec thing too.
Brody Carter
Can confirm that. Did a test with latest kde opensuse tumbleweed and manjaro kde in KVM with identical VMs: openSUSE startup time: 52s Manjaro startup time: 15s
systemd-analyze in opensuse shows: 28s systemd-analyze manjaro shows: 4s
opensuse systemd-analyze blame shows wicked taking 18s Switched that to NetworkManager through Network Settings and disabled ipv6. Boot time by my own timing is 28s now, systemd-analyze shows 10s now. Shutdown takes considerably longer now.
Next is postfix(email service) showing 2s in systemd-analyze blame. Disabled lvm2 Disabled that through Service Manager. Boot time by own stopwatch is: 25s Boot time by systemd-analyze: 8s
Not too bad! Have to add that I timed with openSUSE booting to desktop while Manjaro is booting to loginscreen.
No apparmor or firwall by default for manjaro, certificates done by packages instead of a service?
Jordan Edwards
I may try Tumbleweed since KDE Neon is being a dick and booting into a black screen and I want last KDE without using Arch.
I need to know like, is btrfs that good? I'm given extra choices in here, the default one is like different from the other kids and I have no fucking idea. I'm installing this shit on a small SSD with TRIM support and all that shit.
Jacob Morgan
The rollback features are nice but they do require some diskspace. Make sure to configure the amount of snapshots like this: sudo snapper set-config NUMBER_LIMIT=2-10 NUMBER_LIMIT_IMPORTANT=4-10 Tweak numbers as needed.
Jaxon Cox
is a fucking nightmare, but that mostly thanks to nvidia, sometimes it feels like that they are actively trying to sabotage the linux desktop
Benjamin Edwards
fedora or suse?
Sebastian Lopez
Have little experience with Fedora myself but here's what I can come up with:
fedora has selinux as a security mechanism opensuse has apparmor (and selinux optionally)
fedora (redhat) dropped Btrfs, opensuse still has it
fedora is more gnome oriented, opensuse has gnome but shines in kde
fedora has a livecd, opensuse does not afaik
opensuse has yast, gui config tools for just about everything, don't know about fedora
Both are backed by a solid company, both Redhat and SLES are big in businesses.
Mason Roberts
i know those things, but thanks for wanting to help me. i guess the biggest difference is in the release cycle. i feel like the rolling release approach to things is kinda inferior to something like 6 month release cycle, cause when do you really need that absolutely latest software?
Levi Torres
although i have to say i like that opensuse leans on kde and is german
Nathan Hall
Why are you people trying to push this general that is quite obvious no one cares about if not a dozen of people?
Adrian Campbell
How does Tumbleweed compare to Arch in terms of stability and bugs
Julian Mitchell
With very new hardware and if you want to use Vulkan and latest OpenGL versions.
I like openSUSE and want to share and discuss it, and apparently so do others, if you don't like it, don't read or post in here and leave, save your energy.
I'd say more stable than Arch? Especially if you use Leap, as for Tumbleweed, eh, depends, at least you'll be able to roll back with Snapper/Btrfs.
Jayden Campbell
>15 poster / 30 replies average There is too little people to justify a general, even if you like it really really really much.
