I've started veganism since a month ago

I've started veganism since a month ago.
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I've been vegan for 12 years.

how do you feel?

do you eat diary?

How can you be vegan if you have human meat in your mouth so frequently, op?

think it only counts if you digest it which means he doesn't swallow either

>that opinion
>that flag
lel

Veganism is not about eating habits, but ethical choices.
Humans can survive without meat/dairy products so why consume them and create suffering for animals?

I think the ethical choice is not the correct one to convert people.

most people don't give a fuck about morality, I don't give a fuck.

I've became one after reading about nutrition and how bad is meat and diary for the health.

How can you so expediently dismiss the value of plants' lives?

most plants don't get killed if you eat their flowers, seeds and fruits.

the brain of a plaint is the root.

they depent on animals eating their fruits and seeds.

But most plants you eat are grown solely to feed you. They are deprived of right to reproduce. There is nothing ethical about it. Or do you sow the seeds of apples you buy from a super market?

>why consume them and create suffering for animals?
Because they taste good and their feelings are not very important. Smart as some of the animals we eat are, they're nowhere near humans in terms of intelligence or capacity for emotion. They're not rational actors.

plants are not concious in the same way animals are, unless you think they have souls or some animists shit.

No dairy. I eat normally just replacing cow milk with almond milk and replace meat with black beans.

I'm vegan and I don't care about animals and animal welfare. That's the government's job. I do it because it makes me feel better.

I bought fried chicken last day and it tasted like crap and my stomach feel like shit.

is this normal?

Are euglenas conscious as animals you have in your mind? what about locusts? Are they conscious enough to receive the grace from vegans? Where do you draw the line?

I feel bad for vegans since chomping down on a dead animal is one of the best feelings in the world, especially if you caught it yourself.

>why consume them and create suffering for animals?
I don't give a fuck about animals, I killed 2 pigs and bunch of chickens with my own hands. Animals are made out of meat and I like meat.

I'm not doing this because animal feelings are hurt.
I do agree livestock in industrial farming are basically tortured.
but I do it because of nutrition, eating meat is unhealthy.
specially industrial meat is dangerous for your body, because of growth hormone.

it will give you cancer and eating greens, fruits and veggies is more healthy.

that's fine, but most supermarket meat is made with growth hormones and cancer shit.

That's why you buy your meat from a legit butcher, Juan.

unless it's certified, you will never know.
plus meat is less nutritious than veggies.

Bit of a statist cuck but I can respect the latter part at any rate.

Most of the health problems associated with meat can be dealt with by getting decent quality meat and not searing the shit out of it when you cook it.
Imo the best argument for vegetarianism/veganism comes from resource efficiency: it takes considerable more energy to create a kilojoules worth of meat than it does to create a kilojoules worth of plant material.

Our food & health authorities are pretty strict so I don't have to worry about ingesting roid pigs, and when I look at a great steak I'm not gonna bother thinking about nutritional value.

ahhh,i am tired to see nonvegan jap sayng to vegan
"you are kiling plants"
maybe the reason behynd is that they want to cover they inethical

Yes. Your body has adjusted to vegetables.

compare the nutritional benefits or something like brocoli to meat and you'll see a big diference.
meat taste good, but is poor resource if you're looking for nutrition.
even diary are nutritional poor compared to plant based alternatives.

does japan has vegans?

Q. What's the hardest part about being vegan?


A. Waking up at 5:30 to milk all the almonds

if nobody eats meat then cows, pigs and chicken would die out
are you really wanne be responsible for the extinction of so many species?

Because I don't give a fuck about animals suffering

livestock is one of the biggest causes of pollution.
a cow pollutes the same as an old car.

try again.

Broccoli is pretty fucking poor protein source

Veganism is extremely unhealthy, this has been proven as women cannot properly support their unborn child while pregnant on a vegan diet
Vegetarianism is extremely healthy, however

>one of the super nutrition foods
>but muh protein
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try again shill.

I'm not against meat consumption.
I only think meat should be reduced to a small portion, same with diery.

>maybe the reason behynd is that they want to cover they inethical
I just don't like the way they tend to want to stand on the moral-high-ground and shove their values down to our throats. Also I don't find being vegan makes someone more "ethical".
Buddhism encourages veganism so the monks are supposed to be vegans.

so? you wanna kill of livestock just because they poop?
fair enough, but dont tell me you want to reduce suffering

independent.co.uk/environment/climate-change/cow-emissions-more-damaging-to-planet-than-co2-from-cars-427843.html

educate yourself.

cow suffering is the most inane argument against meat.

so you wanna kill cows just because they suffer?
would you also kill jews just because they suffer?
are you a nazi?

>Buddhism encourages veganism so the monks are supposed to be vegans.
sry vegetarian might be a more correct term here.

I don't give a fuck about antioxidants and other shit
I have a diverse diet so I get all of that
But what I care about is an affordable protein source that tastes good
Because I don't sit home all day

read again, they pollute more than cars and machines and planes combined.

fucking retard.

I'm not against meat consumption.

how do you call the vegetarians that are into vegan shit for nutrition, not for cow ethical shit?

maybe that's why you finns have the pretty boy reputation

and you mad cuz you cannot refute.

>what I care about is an affordable protein source that tastes good

Black beans, crushed hemp seeds, chick peas etc.

All cheaper and better than meat.

Sensible human beings when compared to the other kind of vegan

I know, it's just anoying to hear muh cow lover arguments when there's better arguments such as nutritional facts and pollution.

>Humans can survive without meat/dairy products so why consume them and create suffering for animals?
Because while we might survive, they're still an important part of our diet. Gotta eat that meat to develop our muscles and huge brain.

brain developed because of cooking, not because of meat.

Because I enjoy eating meat. Plants are living beings too, you have to murder something in order to survive.

is rare,exist but i dont meet yet

i personaly is nonvegan here but eating less meat
is more healthy and inexpencive,is good for me too
i respect vegan peple,but be careful with nutrients

Meat is our primary source of protein, and protein is essential for brain developpement.

>human meat in your mouth
What did he mean by this?

Isn't that just one of those theories? In the one I heard, they clearly said that starting consuming meat enabled human brains to develop larger. I can't remember but I think it was a video from TED.

>protein
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Chicken meat has more of less ~27 g of protein per 100g.

>primarelly
but not the only one.

I'm not againts meat, but you need to accept industrial meat is shit tier.

I think is both, but I think cooking made food easier to digest.

meat wasn't always disponible like today.

>but not the only one.
It's only bested by eggs (which is pretty much proto-meat).
>I'm not againts meat, but you need to accept industrial meat is shit tier.
Point out where I was talking about industrial meat. There are multiple ways of getting meat -- going to the butcher, hunting or fishing to name a few.

>ITT "people" thinking that their super weeds can replace shit that your organism requires to function properly

They all have carbs. It's difficult to manage macros if you care about that. Cottage cheese is one option, but that's not vegan. Whey protein is another, but it tastes awful and doesn't have complete protein.

Eat vegans.

There's nothing wrong with complex carbs. Refined carbs are the problem.

Do you really think you're gonna make gains being a vegan?

who cares lol