How the fuck is this avant-garde? John Zorn is avant-garde, not this

How the fuck is this avant-garde? John Zorn is avant-garde, not this.

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How is John Zorn avant-garde? Merzbow is avant-garde, not this.

>I'm 15, the post

children need to be actively banned from Sup Forums

this was avant garde at the 60s
just compare the albums of that time

How is Merzbow avant-garde? John Cage is avant-garde, not this.

we are ALL children

There's different levels of avant-garde. Velvet Underground isn't less experimental just because Metal Machine Music is less accessible.

Read and listen more, retarded faggot.

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>hey, guys... what if we did a drum solo... but here's the crazy part... we follow it up with a sax solo... wHOA
I'm sorry if I fail to see how this is avant-garde in any sense of the word. Unless no other artists were resorting to emotionless technical wankery beforehand.

How is John Cage avant-garde? Nickelback is avant-garde, not this.

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>yeah, i love a meme supreme

I'm not even baiting. Fuck me, right?

I don't know how to prove you wrong, but I have a good hunch that you are wrong so I'm just gonna call you a child: the post

the album is godtier
I don't think it's avant-garde, but who cares? like really

I guess it's an OP is baiting episode

shit out a fuckton of worthless albums = avant-garde? Is Viper the rapper avant-garde?

John Zorn made music in the '60s, embryo

You haven't listened to any jazz other than this and Kind of Blue, have you?

Zorn is shit,

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get experimental

How is Merzbow avant-garde? Nosei Sakata is avant-garde, not this.

>Kind of Blue
it was also avantgarde tho

That's like calling Reign In Blood avant-garde.

>Reign In Blood
it was also avantgarde tho

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>2016
>gives a fuck about genres

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LE BEST JAZZ ALBUM OF ALL TIME

This isn't avant-garde. That's why it isn't garbage

Avant-garde is relative to the times. But if you listened to more jazz you'd know nothing sounds like A Love Supreme. This album is avant-garde jazz.

Avant-garde is an extremely wide term and I think that a lot of music that people don't regard as avant-garde actually is.

John Zorn doesn't belong strictly to any discipline. He's pure avant-garde. John Coltrane is a jazz musician, making avant-garde jazz music.

John Zorn is shit

John zorn is my life

you are wrong, he started in the 80s