>come home from work, just want to play some games (PCI passthrough W10 VM) >update kernel >jokingly tell myself "lemme reboot right away to make sure it still works" >won't boot anymore, lovely instant kernel panic after grub >have to use a live environment to mount my parititions and downgrade the kernel to get it to boot again
If any of the other distros were actually good, I would have dropped this meme a long time ago.
What am I doing wrong if that has never happened to me.
Brody Lee
I guess you're lucky. This is the second time this year this happened to me.
Ryder Allen
>just want to play games >update kernel well theres your problem, OP. dont upgrade something without suspecting it could go wrong. always keep backups.
David Cruz
>install linux-lts linux-lts-headers >uninstall linux linux-headers You're welcome.
Evan Lee
I actually have the same problem, win10 bugged for updates for the past two weeks, did them and here we are
Ryan Thompson
I've been using arch for years and I've only ever once had something break in anything remotely like a "catastrophic" way, and that was when a gnome update went out broken so the system would just restart itself 5 minutes after log in. I honestly dont understand what everyone is doing that their system breaks constantly.
Liam Roberts
I'll give it a shot.
Jacob Jones
Granted, I almost never have any issues on my dinky little ultrabook but my gaming PC runs into issues with updates often. I'm guessing it has to do with the hardware.
Ayden Cruz
>not using Crux, the real KISS distro
Henry Hill
Did you try checking the journal or dmesg? >>>/sqt/
Matthew Morris
I run Arch on my gaming PC as well. Ironically the reason I use Arch is that it and Debian are pretty much the only distros I've found that don't shit their pants all the time when you have shit like proprietary GPU drivers installed.
Grayson Gutierrez
that's why you have all 3 available kernels installed you don't know if a new one may not like ur shit
James Reed
>uninstall linux linux-headers for what purpose?
Ryan Bennett
I use GPU passthrough on Kubuntu with the ACS patch and a Ryzen patch. I patch my kernel every time I want to update the system, works every time.
Christopher Hughes
>If any of the other distros were actually good Try Gentoo - or maybe Debian netinstall.
Ryan Kelly
I have no idea where to even begin with this. I've taken a look at instructions for PCI passthrough before and it seemed daunting. How hard is it realistically for a mid-level linux guy?
Jack Carter
Not him but it helps if you know how to use KVM, libvirt and Qemu already. It's not that hard if you have the right hardware though.
Ryder Barnes
I've used KVM before but not the other two. What would constitute "the right hardware?"
Justin Rogers
iommus
Juan Robinson
Ill give you a hint on how to solve all of that: stop playing games.
Nolan Jones
Are you retarded? The point I was making is that all I wanted to do after work was play some game, not fix my computer.
Christopher Thompson
>ah finally home >time to play some games >but wait, let's update kernel and restart first
Adrian Cooper
It's a bad habit, I run pacman -Syu every time I log in.
Austin Torres
Why would you need the latest kernel if you were running lts?
Lincoln Phillips
I use Arch, btw...
Easton Jenkins
is this some sort of attempt at a le ebip meemay?
Kayden Howard
>Arch
Found your problem user
Luke Gonzalez
If you cannot even debug the kernel, you shouldn't be using arch in the first place.
Caleb Jones
I suggest not doing that if you don't want to deal with updates.
Jaxson Davis
why not
no u
Wyatt Peterson
>why not Because you're never going to use it?
Angel Morales
>Update kernel before doing something you wanted to Are you retarded or something? That's like updating TFS versions right before a release date You literally asked this to happen
Benjamin Torres
>le ebip meemay Please use English.
Christian Wright
Honestly how hard is it to recover from something like this realistically? Yeah it can be annoying to have to do but to me it is pragmatic and simple to troubleshoot and return to working order. Arch has I think the best docs (maybe second to gentoo) and by building your system you are never fucked by some program you never installed and didn't know was there (with the exception of large-bearth packages like kde or gnome). I can understand why you might not want to use Arch on a production machine but for my personal machine its arch debian or gentoo.
Jackson Mitchell
It isn't hard but annoying as fuck.
James Kelly
My MacBook Pro doesn't have this problem
Michael Martin
what if you restart and it goes into kernel panic
Eli Perry
>is this some attempt at "le ironic reddit memes" parroted by actual redditors trying too hard to fit in? Is this better?
Isaiah Adams
Yes, what would you do if that happened?
James Gutierrez
Why didn't you add the new kernel to grub in addition to trusted old kernel? Simply pick old kernel if new fails to boot....
Also, you can play a lot of shit in linux without pass through these days. I just finished first ending of nier with dxvk
Cameron Wright
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Justin Myers
Arch is meant to be used by Linux veterans, not by wannabe skids who just play vidya. A simple bash script to backup your kernel when you -Syu and add it to grub as fallback entry would have give you no troubles. Stick to w10 on bare metal.
James Mitchell
I started here, I was lucky my hardware was already compatible without needing to resort to ACS patch. >evonide.com/non-root-gpu-passthrough-setup/ Using a GUI like virt-manager would be even easier for your first try but you still have to configure the bios, blacklist the GPU, and have vfio claim it.
Starting the VM with a script is more flexible, can easily configure it to launch from a shortcut (icon in panel/dock or desktop) or simply type a command in your PATH.
Jason Hughes
just install manjaro literally arch without the bugs
Wyatt Reyes
I just run a scheduled backup with rsync daily, took me a good while to learn.
scripts if anyone is interested: >backup >(startup script used as command in PATH to initiate entire backup process manually) pastebin.com/vRiziE06
I do it about once a week unless I need to install something.
Owen Cox
This. Actually decent distros have more than one kernel version installed by default, don't know if Arch does the same.
Chase Morris
>removing the old kernel before booting the new one What the fuck is wrong with Arch users?
Camden Campbell
LOL just install *my distro name* i never had any problems with that =)
Nathaniel Ross
That's just op being retarded, Arch keeps a fallback kernel by default.
Jason Cruz
This. Or at least salix/slackware.
Luke Cook
or this, yeah.
Jacob Sullivan
Is that so? I'm a KDE guy myself...
Dylan Ross
or just use timeshift or the likes
Angel Wood
>uninstall linux best advice in the thread
Logan Jenkins
that's a hot meemay
Isaac Myers
Install mint 18.3. Update manager gives you controll over updates. Mint report generates automatically error logs when something goes wrong. Preinstalled timeshift will restore system when something goes wrong.
Cameron Reed
Gentoo is more Chad than both of those distros you mentioned.
So just boot in the previous release that you kept and report the problem. Because you kept it right?
Andrew White
Void wasn't mentioned in this thread yet so here we go. Install Void.
Mason Miller
~> uptime 14:39:01 up 6 days, 3:25, 1 user, load average: 2,24, 1,79, 1,64 ~> free -m total used free shared buff/cache available Mem: 6917 3710 1703 142 1503 2768 Swap: 8191 16 8175 ~>
where did I go wrong?
Ryan Martin
You probably configured something wrong. I've run arch for a year now with no issues, gentoo as well.
Henry White
Stop fucking posting this shit English impossible to read picture
Jason Hughes
>won't boot anymore let me guess, Nvidia GPU?
Benjamin Price
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Thomas Garcia
The grub can provide the previous kernel. At least it's default in ubuntu.
Kevin Gonzalez
I have been using Arch as my main distro for 9 year: literally never got a kernel panic after a pacman -Syu.
What the fuck are you doing OP?
Nolan Campbell
You do realise that when you use a distro that makes you install a bootloader yourself that YOU'RE responsible for making sure there's a fallback option? When you don't set it up to you're own expectations you can't blame anyone but yourself.
I set my bootloader up to keep up to 2 old kernels for fallback if I there's a problem. Haven't needed it yet since Linus is really good about avoiding regressions but at least I have the fallback options I expect.
If you want to setup your own system don't be a dumbass or get an ootb distro so you actually can blame non sane configuration on the devs.
Charles Rogers
Being retarded nigger.
Carson Lopez
>Using Arch >Not having two kernels pacman -S linux linux-lts os-prober grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg
Boot computer > Grub > Advanced options >Select the kernel that isn't the one that won't boot
Jose Ross
>PCI passthrough W10 VM LMAO ! nice try hahahahahahaha wake me up when you figure it out hahahaha
Noah Lopez
How's artix?
Levi Smith
It's shit. Install Void.
Colton Gonzalez
But I like pacman.
Joseph Johnson
Stockholm syndrome.
Jacob Harris
Never update, before you read about update on arch wiki/site
Julian Morgan
It's the best binary package manager though.
Jordan Kelly
Give me 2 reasons why it's better than xbps.
Matthew Sanchez
PKGBUILDs are very easy to work with and that's reason enough for me.
Camden Rogers
Do you have an anal prolapse yet?
Nolan Rodriguez
Setting it up is not a huge achievement, you don't even need to compile a patched kernel anymore.
Chase Torres
>not having multiple kernels installed fgt
Isaac White
is os-prober really needed if not dual booting another OS/distro? Or is it a necessary step to update grub configuration without manually futsing with it?
Lincoln Bennett
Having both linux and linux-lts is a good precaution, if one shits the bed there's still the other.