Takes all your data

>takes all your data
>starts clicking
>stops working on you
How do we bankrupt Seagate for their shitty fucking systems

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I have this same model. Don't say such things...

You probably dropped it, though admittedly, Seagate is garbage

Seconded.

You're scaring me. I have the same model too.

>takes all your data
Fuck fuck fuck. I also have the same model, and all my shit is on there.

The thing just out of the blue stopped working on me after two years today. Trying to connect just makes it click three times and then power down.
I figured it was a personal PC issue, as it worked on another PC for a while, but then it just refused to work on any PC in the matter of hours, like the thing degraded within my hands.

Seriously, I'm fucking livid. I had so much shit on there and it was smooth sailing up until today. All of my video files, music, Vegas projects for the past two years, gone.

simply restore from a backup, otherwise it's your own fault, user

>external drives are backup
Laughing at your existence

This, no one can be retarded enough to have all the eggs on one basket, I do a 3 way data keeping, local, external and encrypted on the cloud

that's what you get for not having your shit backed up, dipshit

>buy safe
>put important things into safe
>safe explodes
>should have protected your stuff dude
fuck you

Blame Samsung.

retarded analogy does not work, proving you're fucking retarded and dont know what you're talking about, which is also why you lost important data.

i dont think you're allowed to talk to me that way, seagate representative

Happened to me. Lost years of things i'll never get back. It serves as a lesson to have more than one backup. I now keep a dedicated hard drive in my desktop and copy whatever is on my external hard drive to it.

Turn it on its side.

I worked a repair job and overhauled their data recovery hard disks sometimes work when you position them correctly.

Check our 300$ data recovery if you aren't getting any luck and don't have the nerve to pop the lid.

Look into advanced filesystems like ZFS and BTRFS

>Bought Seagate hard drive in 2009
>It fucked Windows to the point of no longer booting after a couple of years
ALL of my SSDs are lasting longer than my Seagate drive

i've been using the same backup drive (a Seagate) since 2011 with no issues. I've been lucky.

that being said, the most important of important things go on Dropbox too. Internal, external, AND cloud copies of things just seems like common sense.

Most of mine work fine.

You still need backups and RAID. Learn how into redundancy now or loose data again.

ok, think about it this way

imagine you got two safes with identical shit in them, and you decide to put them in the same fucking place (same drive) instead of in different buildings (different drives) that gets blown up, that's how retarded you are.

> It serves as a lesson to have more than one backup.
> keep a dedicated hard drive in my desktop and copy whatever is on my external hard drive to it
That sounds like one backup, and involves single non-redundant drives (no RAID, no data cloud, nothing) on either end.

It's like Sup Forums always wants to loose its data.

>Buying shitgate
>complaining about hardware failure

Welcome to the wonderful world of computers newfriend.

I try not to keep anything not worth losing. Helps in case the swat teams role in.

> Buying shitgate
Turns out different models have different reliability, same as with most other vendors.

The approach with having one drive can currently be considered fundamentally doomed to loose data sooner or later, no matter what brand you buy.

Redundancy is always best for doing any sort of back ups, hell having two sets of externals is a good option (That or a external and putting anything important on a thumb drive if it will fit, not counting huge amounts of porn or movies).

I tried to warn you all when everyone was all like BARACUDA! WOO!
My Westerndigital blacks are still fucking working

>be willingly ignorant of safe's 0.5% to 2% annual failure rate

Hitachi masterrace

> year of the lord 2018
> still buying Seagate

you have no one to blame but yourself.

I'll buy whatever you're selling if I find out how to free my files from their Seagate purgatory

If your stuff is illegal enough to get SWAT yet unimportant enough that it's okay to theoretically loose it even without SWAT, and that's all you have, sure.

For most people I can think of, it's not actually that. (Not for me either, got photos, docs and many other things I don't want to loose to some shitty single drive failure followed maybe by another while restoring).

Can't do anything now in that regard, you'll have to send this in for drive recovery services and hope they can recover whatever wasn't physically destroyed.

(If you opened up the drive -which you probably should not- it might be that there's a giant scratch on the platters from a head crash... that scratch is basically probably gone. Fortunately a head isn't that big, so the rest might be recoverable.)

All I can do here is be captain foresight for next instance and encourage you to buy a proper NAS with RAID6/5/1 drives or something and set up software to regularly automatically do backups that have less of a chance to fail next time.

The worst part is that it was working on another computer out of the blue a few hours ago, all files intact. I should have taken the opportunity to upload it all, but hindsight is 20/20, and I tried to transfer it on another only for it to not work on that one either.

Knowing the files and the drive is in working condition on some occasions is a mixed blessing, because now I have the impression I can do it myself without sending it in.

my 4tb seagate died 3 days ago...lost all my angela white porn. really piss

> hindsight is 20/20
Yup. I know people who lost months of work.

> I should have taken the opportunity to upload it all
This, honestly, is an actuall issue as such. You really want it to just happen periodically automatically. Or you'll have to be among the top, IDK, 0.5% of disciplined people to actually do it frequently.

It's something your computer can handle when you have a NAS and backup software, let it handle it. You can still manually do the secondary copy of the NAS or something manually.

> I have the impression I can do it myself without sending it in
I personally don't really have the impression that I myself could.

If it's only up to 4TB of porn, at least that's easy to get back.

Still, if this pisses you off, you too should probably think if RAID1/5/6 or file mirroring or whatever wouldn't be worthwhile somehow.

I got an external M.2 drive in one of these shits and its been the most reliable thing ever.
Run arch and an ntfs partition on it for storage

no clicks or mechanical parts or any of that shit

I suggest looking at git-annex. It lets you make sure the files you are storing have multiple replicas, including encrypting them and storing them in Google Coldline or Amazon Glacier as last-resort offsite backups.

Are you working for the one in LA? I just had to send my external there, shit died a horrible death by being accidently electronics-recycled, although the last time I sent one of my disks in, it took like 2 months and a half to get it back, and I'm not optimistic I'm getting it back in a reasonable amount of time.

By not buying them...

How are there still people that don't backup their shit in 2018? HDDs are to be bought in pairs.

I only keep my shit in raid arrays, and important shit in multiple locations now. Thanks Seagate for teaching me about backing up my data.

Any specific hard drive recovery service you recommend?

>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE MY DATA IS GONE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

yeah thats the sound my drive made correct

i must be lucky as fuck i never had any HDD problem in my 15+ years of PC building

>tfw no hdd has ever failed me
I don't get what's so awful about them

based

not based

For frequent reading and storage purposes SSD is always better in everyway. HDD too but unless you keep it strictly read only and rarely power it up spinning. The reason for 3.5" ext hdd exists is that you can turn it off while not using as opposes to a 2.5" where it's on board DRAM cache and chips are running then the spindle starts rolling when accessed. If you have extra money you can test torrenting a 1TB ssd and 1TB hdd dispite price difference and keep seed/leach at max speed for a year, i can guarentee HDD will fail less than 6 months. It's a mechanical limitation.

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it was years before I had a hard drive of any kind die (iPod Video, headphone cable got caught on door, landed hard on concrete, that was it)
and I've had only two hard drives naturally just die (one was an internal in a laptop that failed semi-gracefully, and I was able to pull everything important off of it, the other was an external that died out of the blue), both of those within the last five years

at this point, I either back up shit to my other machines or jam anything I don't care whether anyone else sees in the cloud

Doing it locally myself, but maybe backblaze if you want to hire it as a service?

i dont know why people have problems doing backups
have more than 1 drive in yoru fucking computer so you can download or whatever save to one drive and thats all you do with it. then have another drive where you store that shit off of it, onto. and so you can run your games or whatever, off of another drive, so you never even tell whats going on while its doing it, won't notice any performance hit.
get more drives.

>have more than 1 drive in yoru fucking computer

What if your house burns down? You need offsite copies as well.

then i need another house.
>cloud
thats stupid, its like expecting the neighbors to feed something that you make money from. like horses. while your gone. without checking on it. trusting someone else with something you make money on or whatever. who says they will?

Seagate is not garbage, but their Shingled Magnetic Recording (SMR) technology is.

All of their SMR products should be boycotted.

Perpendicular Magnetic Recording (PMR) is the regular, well working technology.

Western Digital and Toshiba still sticks to PMR for all of their drives (i think).

>backblaze
>backup external drive to it
>unmount external drive for any reason
>backblaze syncs
>your off-site backup now does not exist
Yeah no thanks. Like the drive failure stats they post though.

FUCK that's where I keep my encrypted porn collection

It's still working so I should be good, right?

>My harddrive is still working so I don't have to worry about my harddrive breaking right?
user what kind of question is that
also mine worked since 2016, but shut down out of the blue. Whatever floats your boat, but I'm switching to SSD after this.

fucking this

>buy BackBlaze B2 (enterprise version of their backup)
>start uploading my veracrypt containers
>"LOL NOPE YOU NEED TO CREATE A BUCKET"
>create bucket
>"LOL NOPE, SIZE LIMIT IS 5000MB PER FILE"
>launch 7-zip and create 4000MB zip files of all my shit, takes forever
>"LOL NOPE, SIZE LIMIT 5000MB"
>realize they have made a fucking typo and they actually mean 500MB"
>do the 7-zip shit again, takes forever
>start uploading
>200Kbit/s upload
>cancel subscription and buy Dropbox 1TB storage
>upload fuckhuge 200GB veracrypt container and max my 100Mbit/s connection via their dekstop program client

So does the freezer trick actually work, or does it make it worse if I'm gonna send the drive in for recovery? Asking for a friend.

>ITS A CLOUD ADVERTISEMENT THREAD
every fucking time..
read this niggers
tell me why your stupid cloud is going to give a fuck about my very expensive or important data.
more than i would.
why i cant make a fireproof box to secure it in a fire.

heard it can, it shrinks th emetal down. which can keep something from hitting maybe turning it on and getting it going.

Aren't you just butthurt because you're an idiot who doesn't have proper backups?

A harddrive is in no way or form the equivalent of a safe. Neither is any other form of data storage, except stone tablets. You didn't lose your data because of seagate, you lost it because you're retarded.

What cloud and type of encryption do you use?

If you're saying I'm a shill then you're wrong, I got stung by the Seagate curse too and was looking for a backup solution. Backblaze was my first pick due to the reputation and amount of publicity they get, but after reading their KB a bit more in depth I found that they're full of shit and their solution is unacceptable for anyone serious about their data. Sadly I still haven't found a company that is acceptable.

>why i cant make a fireproof box to secure it in a fire.

If you want a fireproof, waterproof, crushproof storage system designed to survive being in a building that burns down, falling several stories to land in the water-filled basement before the rest of the building crashes down on top of it; you can get one. They aren't cheap.

iosafe.com/products

They used to sell ruggedized internal drives as well, that you could use as part of your system, but they've moved to standalone protected storage.

you expect someone else to do it for you? whle offering solutions to ..HIM?
thats no different than just putting it on 1 drive to expect somoene else to do that for you to protect important shit

if its not htat important that you dont want it stolen or ((lost)) you'll back it up yourself on multiple backups, like dvds, hardrives

if its that important too yo uproably got another place to store backups. plsu doing it yourself leaves 1 problem and just as bad as losing it thing out of the equation
it getting stolen
>but my encryption
pallidium

Yes, shrinks bearings and changing the bearing geometry just enough to maybe make it stable...gotta keep it in there to use it though, else condensation will finish wrecking it

>except stone tablets
Shit dude, God knew what he was doing when he made the ten.
Even after Moses broke the first set God still had a back up pair.

>He doesn't know about file history

What's a good HDD then? Western Digital?

A triple hardware failure (RAID6) is very unlikely no matter which brand you buy. A double failure (RAID1/5) still pretty unlikely.

If you get unlucky you'll have to RMA more or get less lifespan past the warranty period, but nobody actually knows what models are optimal.

I'll just send everything to the cloud then. (joking)

Not completely wrong; it's just a cost issue in most instances where you don't only have a small amount of data.

>not having multiple backups
literally retarded

>yoru

Am i one of the few people that has had better luck with WD drives than I have had with seagate drives

We're down to a couple cents per gigabyte, so if your data is truly valuable, just buy two 4TB disks and RAID1 them.

They literally have an FAQ that details how all your backup data can go down the drain if you hit just the right combination of unmounting it changing driver letters, going offline and then coming back online. And it's not some cosmic coincidence obscure set of conditions to trigger it.

Yea, that was the suggestion (as opposed to hiring cloud services).

> When a drive is missing for 14, 21, and 28 days, Backblaze will email an alert
> for up to 30 days after a file or disk was removed you can still view and restore your files by selecting an older backup set

Hard drives are vulnerable to failure like any other mechanical system, it's not Seagate's fault you didn't keep a backup.

idiots

This. Your fault for buying a backdoored HDD instead of Toshiba.

Your hard drive is not a safe, it was designed to store, not to protect. People who buy safes and store replicable things also still use redundancy by having multiple safes.

Genuinely kill yourself for such an illogical comparison.

What's the best 4TiB hard drive? Preferable inexpensive.

can someone explain me why

every time i turn on my laptop it asks me for password (full disc encryption) i write it correctly, it says its wrong, i put it exactly the same second time, it works

every goddamn time i have to do it two times, why

Thank god HDDs are becoming obsolete

Maybe your first keystroke isn't submitted correctly by your hardware

Anyone here actually use RAID 10? (or 15?)

Is there a reason to even get seagate? Are they that much cheaper than WD?

This thread scared me.
i got a seagate 5tb, now i bought a 5tb backup (seagate). Whats the best way to make a backup? Just copy paste or is there software for this?

What are max safe temperatures for hard drives?

Search for a drive cloning program.

My laptop HDD ran with shitty thermals for over 5 years and it's still OK.

It's seagate too.

How shitty? Mine is at 50C during summer.

>blacks
>working
I dont believe you

>stops working on you
i have the same fucking model