Why did rock become pussies' music?

Take a look at 80s rock bands: music was all about fucking, partying and enjoying life.

Then grunge took over, and rock started to be about depression and angst. Same applies to its heris, like post-grunge, nu metal and crossover. Only pop punk was about fun and girls.

Even 90s and 2000s rock was quite "dark" themed, it still rocked and kicked ass, with fast beats and hard guitars.

Now rock is all boring and great only to do yoga to. Concerts of recent bands are a pain the ass, full of people standing and staring each other.

How can we go back to real rock music?

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By blasting Steel Panther all day every day.

"same applies to its HEIRS" sorry for the mistake

Woah thank you for making me discover this band. Cool and funny too

Music industry panicking when it became christianised and anti Jewish socialist agenda. Grunge did that. Nu-metal too.
They tricked the industry and now it's paying big time.

Even hip-hop is doing the same now. They're getting rid of that too.

Nothing left but radical feminist whores and the occasional "feminist" doing the same grunge thing and tricking the industry.

It's probably better today at local gigs because the alternative scene is alternative again.

Big things about to happen I suspect. Lot's more bands again.

So you think feminism is changing hip-hop too? It's definitely the most mysoginist genre ever

Because '80s had Reagan.

Currently Obama's government is trying to impose their agenda in everything. Their #1 goal is pushing white male guilt.

For pushing male guilt and female supremacy to the mainstream, they have feminism. Performers which have successfully incorporated it in their music include Meghan Trainor, Miley Cyrus, Beyonce, also that really fat singer but I forgot her name.

As for white guilt and the idea of black supremacy, see racist rap, again Beyonce, Kendrick, and general predominance of blacks in entertainment in general.

Nu-male music simply agrees and approves these ideas. It imposes the role models on young people to accept their guilt and inferiority for being born white, straight and male.

Rap is the black equivalent of hair metal. It's raunchy, offensive, it's about sex, drugs and male sexuality.

Female pop is the female equivalent of hair metal. It's pushing the female supremacy and sexuality.

It was because of MTV. Everyone had to have a music video and bands became more about their image than their music. Hence all the glam shite

As young people we should really all feel guilty for being born. Read some Ligotti bitch.

>So you think feminism is changing hip-hop too? It's definitely the most mysoginist genre ever
Put it this way. Most people over the age of 18 does not listen to that mainstream bullshit.

I personally hang out at gigs with mates.

Why? Because it eases us in this screwed world we're in.

Hip-hop doesn't "need" to change at all. It fits the neo-liberal narrative perfectly.

It is meant to show that when black people blame white people for crimes they didn't commit, engage in pure racism, misogyny, and hedonism, it is good and "current year"; but when white people do it, it's fascism, disgusting bigotry, problematic, and should be suppressed at all costs.

It is also meant to show that black people are "cool" and white people are "old and boring".

Motley Crue were a bunch of talentless pedophiles making music for the 80s equivalent of the "muh moosic scares people xD" crowd
you want music that still rocks? ok here you go:
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>It is meant to show that when black people blame white people for crimes they didn't commit, engage in pure racism, misogyny, and hedonism, it is good and "current year"; but when white people do it, it's fascism, disgusting bigotry, problematic, and should be suppressed at all costs.

My theory has always been: if they keep pushing this, eventually a bunch of really bigoted Neo Nazi and Uncle Tom Rappers will start making head waves because the Established "Culture" will be rolling over outraged by it.
Black adults will hate it, Nu-Fork will all review it poorly but all the kids will like it so it doesn't matter.

Shit taste detected. Motley Crue were the best glam metal band of the '80s. What you posted is not even plebian, it's middle school wigger-core.

>It is meant to show that when black people blame white people for crimes they didn't commit, engage in pure racism, misogyny, and hedonism, it is good and "current year"; but when white people do it, it's fascism, disgusting bigotry, problematic, and should be suppressed at all costs.

kek

All people are slaves.
All.

Even the richest.

Sup Forums meets Sup Forums

Same person? No offense mate, but I'm not a fan of conspiracy theories. They all sound edgy to me.

glam was shit anyway,
and that's a pretty big "was"
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Actually I plan to do a "moonman" band just to tell the world - Look let's sit down, figure this shit out, try new things to fix this cock-up.

People are giving up too easily. I want to trigger enlightenment. Even if I lose all friends and family. I will do it for people.

Pedophiles? I didn't know that fucking hot young sluts was pedo stuff. And they actually kicked ass dude

Rawk of the kind in the 60s-70s-80s isn't possible anymore because Millenials aren't the same kind of people or have the same mentality as boomers and Gen Xers. Young people now just don't go out and ride on motorcycles and smoke, drink or fuck anymore. They live in their parents' basement at 30 and have sex with an Applejack dakimakura instead of a female.

I did a kickflip over your post, now what

Only conspiracy is that we have to get the guillotines out for the rich.

It's time. They're pure evil and not listening. They don't care anymore.

We'll make them care even at the cost of our lives.

Do it for the young children today.

The problem is that labels won't allow it. It won't earn money; moreover, it will result in SJW withchunt on the people who made it.

Hipster bands are really what reflects the Millenial mindset, which is wearing a fedora and a scarf and being a Tumblr nu male.

Holy god, he's not making this up.

I'm a millennial and definitely feel I was born in the wrong time. I love smoking and drinking (as all people in Europe) but hate that fucking rap and EDM that everybody is so enthusiast of.

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Aaaand actually you're right. It was all mostly shit. "Glam" monicker was mostly just for the image. What most bands like Poison did was just rehashes of NWBHM or even rock'n'roll with some tapping.

Motley Crue were different from the rest though.

with the internet we have a pretty safe way to test the water when it comes to finding out what makes money.
if a bunch of really offensive shit began gong viral and all the "muh white peepl sux xDDD" cancer stopped going anywhere what choice would they have?

When was the last time we had a pic related or a Chili Peppers? a band that didn't give a fuck about race and just made music for everyone to have fun? why does everything need a social message now?

But that music had a social message too

>Take a look at 80s rock bands: music was all about fucking, partying and enjoying life.

Just listen to modern rap and it fits all that, unless you don't like the fact that they don't dress up like women

30 posts and only 8 posters. This thread is literally being controlled by the same guy. Check the numbers in the bottom right

barely and even if it did, you know what I'm talking about. Led Zeppelin for example, say what you want about their music but they just liked playing their instruments they didn't give a fuck who was "moved" or even who was offended by it.

Check these numbers

Well it's not about the fashion, it's more about the music which was netter imho. I wrote that even the depressing grunge and nu metal had at least hard music

You're missing a few pieces of the puzzle, notably that bands like Poison came along after glam metal was already past its prime (1982-85). They were just a diluted parody of glam metal for little kids.

>I want to trigger enlightenment.
Um, sorry mate, but you're starting to sound like Reddit.

Look, I don't deny I read Sup Forums from time to time. You know why? I don't buy into their memes like "jews", "eradication of white race" and so on.

I'm simply sick of predominating social dogma that's being shoved down my throat by movies, websites and so on. I think it's not about equality anymore but about reverse oppression.

They are simply mainstream. People with no personality will eat it up. People who easily accept propaganda will eat it up.

The problem is, you'll have to stay anonymous to avoid witchhunts (meaning no live performances), and write actually good music to get popular.

If you will get controversial, you will actually receive PR from all the haters; but good luck making money with such records. Also, if your voice is recognized, you might have problems.

But if you do succeed, you will become the white N.W.A.

holy fucking cringe batman

50% of rap songs now: Muh White peepl is ruinin our erf I dindu nuffin
other 50%: only exist because of constant pushing of brand names in every song
so it's either Boyce Watkins style pandering or commercials now. I suppose there is also some stupid shit about relationships and feelings thrown in but who gives a fuck? still terrible

Blame the pussy acoustic rock bands like Oasis that got popular in the 90s

You forget

ROLL DAT BLUNT
HIT DAT AYSSS
LAY DAT BEAT
DROP THAT BAYS

>only exist because of constant pushing of brand names in every song
those songs are what I was referring to

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Yep, but even at its prime it wasn't exactly soaring high. I love Def Leppard, Quiet Riot and Hanoi Rocks were ok, but Ratt not so much.

After that it was full of unashamed hacks with no talent whatsoever.

"Rock music is dead. Rappers are the new rock stars. They're edgy, they have attitude, they flash around big stacks of money, they ride in a limousine with girls hanging off their arms. I mean, we all love that, right? They make you want to be them. The point is that rock stars aren't supposed to be ordinary people. And then at some point, they became ordinary people. And the music got bland, it got boring, it sucked, and people stopped listening to it."

Shekels the Jew Clown needs to watch his obnoxious mouth

Rappers are blacks hanging around with white girls. That's what most people find not acceptable.

Rap is music by black people, for black people.

White music has always been more about melody than beat. It has much more changes, hooks and all that.

Rap is purely black music rooted in African rhythms. You have to be black to truly eschew all melody and like music concentrated ONLY on looping beat.

Not to mention I don't understand half the lyrics in most rap (I'm not talking your Drake or Aesop Rock stuff—I'm talking average stuff black people listen to). What I do hear sounds like Spinal Tap to me.

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After grunge happened, the Kiss/Motley Crue/GNR brand of misogynistic cockrock completely fell out of fashion - only rappers could still get away with objectifying women.

>White music has always been more about melody than beat. It has much more changes, hooks and all that.
That's simply because of the European symphonic tradition which always emphasized melody and which carried over into popular music.

I think it also goes hand in hand with fact that Reagan era ended. During Clinton's presidency it was so-so, and rock still rocked.

Yes, that's true. And that's also about black rhythm tradition.

Polyrhythms didn't really stick in pop music. And vice versa, black music often relies on beat. THis doesn't mean there can be exceptions from both sides; but they don't change the general picture.

"Where are the legendary musicians of today? Going down the list, I can name Elvis, the Beatles, the Rolling Stones, Jimi Hendrix, Led Zeppelin, Michael Jackson. But after about 1984, who is there? And you can't say Nirvana because making two albums and then killing yourself doesn't make you a legendary artist."

>Clinton era
>rock still rocked
Dude...you put on MTV in 1994 and all you see is Smashing Pumpkins, Bush, Stone Temple Pilots, Green Day, Hole, and Korn whining how bad they smell and how much their mom sucks.

Cockrock basically started with Led Zeppelin and Exile-era Stones though, not in the Reagan years.

>Now rock is all boring and great only to do yoga to
>like the 80s didn't have that

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That's the thing that bugs me. In the 80s, most anti-Reagan whining was confined to punk/alternative bands. The big stadium rock acts of that time seemed pretty apolitical for the most part. The 2000s however had everyone however mainstream or not whining about George Bush.

BASED

Just curious, but why does he make 1984 his arbitrary cutoff point?

Oh, I dunno. Possibly because Bu$h Nazi verifiably stole two elections and slaughtered 600,000 Iraqi civilians so Haliburton execs could afford a new Ferrari.

Stop listening to p4k core and listen to extreme metal

>music designed for white trash 11 year olds in the 80s
>good
LOLno.

I mean, at least they had distortion.

Of course it is dead. Black people appropriated "sex, drugs and rock'n'roll" dogma.

The gradual liberalization of music occured in stages. First labels pretty much ended heavy metal and started the grunge "wave". It gave us some good artists, but ultimately they made the rock whiney and edgy.

Then came next stage: indie. It started introducing nu-males, manlets in skinny jeans as "rockers". All while rap received more and more money from labels.

Finally came Obama era. Black became the new cool; "wigger" became an offensive, problematic word. Guitars have been pushed out of mainstream; terms like "dadrock", "rockists", "mixtape" appeared. The flow of money to rock was obstructed, and the recording industry went down with the rise of internet, hence the lack of new rock.

Final stage: Obama's second term. Feminism, LGBT, fat acceptance and white guilt in music; "Indie too white" meme. Increasing SJW bias in media, including p4k. White music is made irrelevant unless it isn't from women/LGBT/effeminate men with no balls. Total cleanising of music from any sign of white masculinity.

>being a close minded retard
lol

>Black people appropriated "sex, drugs and rock'n'roll" dogma

They invented it in the first place, they were just taking back what was theirs.

I think rock was on its last legs during Bush's second term and that was happening before Obama. For all intents and purposes, American Idiot was the end of mainstream rock.

Motley Crue were rock and roll as fuck though. They weren't bad.

Nikki Sixx even died on the hospital table a few times after overdosing.

You can see elements of it in blues and rock'n'roll, yes, but not

> They're edgy, they have attitude, they flash around big stacks of money, they ride in a limousine with girls hanging off their arms.

Remember how BB King destroyed hotel rooms with groupies and nearly overdosed on heroin? Me neither.

Today rap took it all way too far. Rappers are almost like pimps, they boast their crime and don't hide drug usage. Motley Crue and GNR were more restrained than that.

FWIW, Lemmy preferred Motley Crue to Metallica.

No one outside of your internet world feels guilty for being white.

>Then came next stage: indie. It started introducing nu-males, manlets in skinny jeans as "rockers".
Nope, that was the 70s and 80s. Have you seen post-punk bands from the 80s? They're all 5'6 manlets with plastic rimmed glasses in skinny pants that cling to their 120 lb frame

Yep, that's true. But it raises the question if Bush was a true republican candidate, if he has managed to become the most unpopular president in history.

It was his presidency that opened the doors to post 9/11 liberalism and subsequent rise of PC and SJWs.

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I do the same. Motley Crue wrote better songs.

Sorry but you are retarded, hiphop is easily the most redpill genre of music

It's all about attaining social status, getting rich, fucking numerous women. Rapping is almost always about bragging about being more dominant than the competition. It's about men being strong and not being pussies.

If you don't think hiphop is the most redpilled music, then you're just racist

When you say redpilled, are you implying that's a good or a bad thing? I mean obviously you'd be generalising if you were to say literally all hip hop is like that.

>Remember how BB King destroyed hotel rooms with groupies and nearly overdosed on heroin? Me neither.
A lot of those bluesmen lived pretty rugged, debauched lives desu. To quote Pinetop Perkins (who lived to 97), "Lots of blues musicians died young because dey got inta things dey shouldn'ta been doin."

I know that perfectly well. It is a dogma that's being pushed by media. No one thinks, for example, Caitlyn Jenner is "sexy" or beautiful. But one risks getting fired from his job if he says otherwise. A slightest jab at blacks can destroy one's career and earn them reputation as "bigots", aka persona non grata.

>if he has managed to become the most unpopular president in history
Until the guy who came after him anyway.

>I don't buy into their memes like "jews"
if there's one and only one thing that anyone should take from Sup Forums to heart, its the jews. not degenerate, white genocide, cuck and certainly not assjaydubya. at least that's what i think..

It is getting pretty out of hand. I think Jenner is fucking disgusting and basically a murderer. How he got away with hitting someone with a car and killing them is beyond me. Complete fucking sell out hack that even the LGBT community doesn't respect.

>It is also meant to show that black people are "cool" and white people are "old and boring".
White people can't be cool by definition, 'specially old white people. It's just not possible for them.

Obama is far more popular than Bush was at the end of his presidency you suburban bubble child you

The only Motley Crue you need is the first two albums and Decade of Decadence. Rest is just 12 year old girl poodle rock.

Obama is a puppet. All I ever really see him do is make appearances on late night tv shows trying to appear as if he's just "one of us".

Huffington Post polls are not a credible source of information.

>each successive Congressional election since Obama has been president cost the Democrats more and more seats

Yep, you're right here. As I said, bluesmen predated in a way their ways of life. I'm not sure they "invented" it though—I can see white country musicians doing just the same.

See, that's why I never will agree with "red pill" individuals.

If you mean "promoting male surpemacy", then you're right. But I never liked that in music. I can't listen hyper-raunchy rap about "hoes", "pussy", "bitches" and so on. It all sounds like Spinal Tap's Sex Farm to me. It doesn't matter who sings it—white guys or black guys.

Also, you're not mentioning that most rappers despise white people. They feel pure, unrefined racial hatred to anyone white. If redpill means pure unadulterated racism, I don't want it.

As he called working-class Americans "bitter people clinging to their guns and religion".

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>smoking
if it's not too late, quit. it's absolutely awful

I mean he's not wrong.

This. I just went to a funeral of a woman who had two strokes, undiagnosed stage iv lung cancer and went into a coma. They pulled the plug because she was a goner.

Blues clubs were pretty seedy places; Albert King was known even in his later years to carry a pistol around with him, a rudiment of his early days gigging in clubs.

I read a concert story about BB King from a few years before he died when people were complaining that he was spending the whole show chatting about nothing instead of playing, and he apparently told one of the hecklers in the audience "It may not look it, but I have a knife under this tuxedo."

Kind of hard to imagine BB King saying that when most people alive in the 2000s only knew him as a benevolent grandfatherly figure, but once upon a time, he was a young man playing in clubs where you had to be on guard for your safety.

Pic related. This is you.

You need to get off the internet kid and go live in the real world where people actually exist. Nu males aren't a thing.

Add this and the pretty good Saints of Los Angeles

>Then came next stage: indie. It started introducing nu-males, manlets in skinny jeans as "rockers". All while rap received more and more money from labels.
The other problem was that metal after 1992 forgot how to write songs instead of gnash fragments, so that was the end of metal as a mainstream, commercial genre.

Their downfall started with Theater of Pain. Admittedly the B-sides are still balls-out rockers, but the singles show a disturbing shift towards a lightweight pop rock feel.

Yeah, it's pretty obvious. Before the civil rights movement, violence towards blacks was much more likely.

But I wouldn't say it was the same as the lifestyle popularized The Rolling Stones'. The latter was about destructive hedonism. Bluesmen certainly wouldn't dream of that.