Long time ago I did a drunk angry thread about how Sup Forums reacted and argued about everything. That was stupid af I was only pointing out shit while doing it. (Sorry don't have any screenshot of it. It 404'd real fast because no one gives a shit about a butthurt user.)
Right now, I'm calmer than before and I have this genuine question :
> Why do we always go back to memeing and why do we lack arguments to point out that our music is better ?
I love Sup Forums, really love it. But I feel like every thread leads to nothing, no one listen to shit when it's a share/suggestion thread, we just perpetuate old memes and bring down mainstream music.
I like the concept of sharing and I love to see my artist getting rekt by the sincere, fact-full argument of a random user, but I don't see it anymore in here, everyone just tries to promote x artist and everyone who likes anything but x will just swear at him or post memes.
Because this is basically one of the worst websites on the internet, and it shouldn't even have a musical board beside. It's a Chinese cartoon website conceived to share pedo-pornographic material and hentai waifus.
This is not a reasonable place where discussing, because it is overwhelmed by memes, general shitposting, baiting, infantile reactions, misogynist faggots and underage babbies who try to throw their frustration and life's failure onto the others. It's just this, my friend.
Dominic Fisher
SAME AS IT EVER WAS
Isaiah Young
Thanks for answer, you're the only one, cheers. I like the edgyness tho' Sup Forums is not Sup Forums, they are similar and the fact that there is not real rule about posting is making it a little hard to comprehend sometimes, I like that alternative (not the music l-o-l) world that Sup Forums is giving, even though anons tastes are pretty common if you lurk a little more into websites about general music.
The only thing that doesn't please is that nobody is getting some positive thing out of it, we're all stuck, repeating the meme or the hate.
Asher Wright
this board is predominently underage kids and if you honestly ask why no discussion happens here you haven't been here for more than a month
the only reasons people stay here is 1) the memes 2) they can't stop coming here and the board is like an addiction even though they know the quality is shit or 3) the occasional good recommendations and discussion in very select threads
Jace Young
Why not take it off these shitheads and make Sup Forums great again ?
Ayden Cruz
Because it is easier to shitpost aand meme than it is to post thoughtfully. In an environment like this it can sometimes not seem worth it to properly critique or discuss something if you are only going to get ignored or shat on.
Matthew Bailey
it's pretty impossible, trying to get actual discussion on any Sup Forums board never works and getting recs or finding cool music almost only ever happens in sharethreads and generals
those are the type of threads you should look into if you want to make this website useful
Joseph Ramirez
Also, I'm sure a lot of people come here initially because certain artists are often talked about and held up here in ways that they aren't in other places (Death Grips, Animal Collective, NMH, etc). They don't come here to actually engage in conversation about music, they come here because they feel important and like part of some big secret esoteric music club that's better than everyone else. Cue meming and shitposting.
Nathan Stewart
You cannot, they're the general aspect of this board unfortunately. Mostly because mods here are practically useless and don't do their work at all.
For example: they should not allow to make repetitive spam like this guy is doing everywhere. It's probably the main reason why people like this can exist on here.
Angel Ross
they come here because someone else brought them here
it's usually the first board people from Sup Forums go to aside from /x/ leading to a bunch of kids trying to meme albums that they only heard about from a p4k list or fantano video
the general nature and audience of the board prevents anybody from making it "great again," especially since it never really was that great to begin with
the t. name memes were created to get a reaction out of people, don't reply to them newfie
Blake Murphy
OP here, I find it quite paradoxal that you are all complaining that we can't get a serious thread without any meme-abuse, but I wasn't expecting nothing from my thread. I'm gently pleased by what it's becoming. Not saying we're going to change the world, but it's nice to see some real-talk people in here.
>getting rekt by the sincere, fact-full argument of a random user why do you want to be told what to listen to?
Joshua Flores
if there's one thing people take seriously on this board it's complaining about the quality of the board
he hasn't been here long give him a break
Jackson Reed
Not OP, but how else do you find good music? Has no one recc'd an album before to you in your life? Do you walk into a record store and make blind purchases and manage to buy good albums every time?
Gavin Morales
I actually think at this point that Bjork fans can be the most comfy people along with Autechre fans, the /Classical/ general and the /Sharethread/ talkers.
Aaron Powell
> assuming you only listen to thing by yourself, that nobody ever suggest a good artist I'm going to invent a concept : musical determinism, just for your ass. You don't have the liberty to choose your music, you just accept what trendy or not trendy if you're an edgy hipster.
It's not about being told to listen to x or y artist, it's about getting criticism, another point of view of the same artist. It's not going to change my view, but make me sharper, make me know the plus and the minus of it.
Justin Wilson
Fuck off waifufags
Jeremiah Robinson
I love this song very much. Both historically and theoretically, music has been the most valid medium to convey and invoke religious ecstasy. Listening to plainsong chants and mass settings can invoke religious ecstasy as an altered state of consciousness in even the atheistic.
But more importantly, it can be invoked even when the music has been completely divorced from the timbral and structural identity of religious music, which is an idea that has been strongly rejected in contemporary music given that it suggests there's something outside of the cultural representation of music itself that can exist.
Evan Hernandez
that's not what i meant. i wanted to say - Why do you need someone to tell you wether you should like what you're listening to or not
James Morgan
>Has no one recc'd an album before to you in your life? people do this irl pretty frequently especially if you're talking to ones who are actually interested in music >Do you walk into a record store and make blind purchases and manage to buy good albums every time? lol literally everybody does that, it's not a matter of finding good music it's a matter of discovery
bjork threads are very comfy
sadly there are a considerable amount of people who would think the opposite and literally change their opinion to fit whatever the user thinks, it's fucking crazy
the idea of accepting what is trendy or not trendy isn't far off from describing a sizable portion of this board
Josiah Clark
God, nice cock sucking lips
Dylan Thompson
slow your roll there striker
Dominic Powell
I've seen a nice podcast about how we should shape our identity : to sum it up, it's telling us that we are stuck a vice cycle, we don't want to be "this kind of person" and we avoid doing things that would be really enjoyable.
> I would never listen to mainstream music, I'm not like these faggots We are so concerned about the image that we send to ourselves that we neglect so many experiences. The conclusion of the video was : Reduce your identity, don't try to call yourself a metalhead, a poptism, funk soldier, etc. All these name are a cage for your to enjoy all and everything in an objective kind of way.
I enjoy my artist getting criticized, I feel like I'm too much into it and some people point out their flaw better than I do. It's not killing my taste, it's making it sharper and more objective.
Owen Cook
aka BJ Ork
Jaxon Fisher
excluding yourself to a couple of genres is stupid and doesn't get you far but sadly it's what people on Sup Forums do
just remember, use sharethreads and generals, they're the only threads that matter
haHAA
Levi Barnes
fuck i forgot to post a stupid picture of this stupid woman
Josiah Wilson
>I enjoy my artist getting criticized, I feel like I'm too much into it and some people point out their flaw better than I do. It's not killing my taste, it's making it sharper and more objective.
There is a universal difference between criticizing an artist and trivializing or memeing it. You don't get arguments or actual conversation about, that's what is demotivating here. People cannot have a real personal thought about an artist which they cannot enjoy or understand, but what they try to do is only misleading them using the inhuman script of the internet generation. I think is one of the reason why the internet era is becoming almost absolutely fallimentary when it comes to channel the social harmonic aspect of humans.
Gabriel Clark
Don't even dare to talk about Bjork in that way again, user.
Brandon Barnes
> There is a universal difference between criticizing an artist and trivializing or memeing it. You don't get arguments or actual conversation about, that's what is demotivating here.
Hence the whole thread.
So, how do we do it concretely ?
Christopher Cooper
it can't be done concretely this board's culture doesn't allow it for the most part
with 1 thread about good discussion and criticism there's about 10 meme threads going on at the same time
dumbo beyerk lol
Andrew Nelson
Like we're doing it now here; talking, conversing each other.
Tyler Richardson
I believe some management and inner rules to Sup Forums would change the whole progression of this board.
> More [insert Genre] discussions/share threads > Less [Quote][Why did he mean by this] threads > Less rate thread (they only bring a subjective number, no debate about the artist itself) > More Discuss/discover/suggest artist
And yes, moderation is shit on Sup Forums > does Sup Forums like metal Every fucking day.
Brayden Torres
if you want change you're gonna need to ask hiroshimoot
i think a /mug/ would work well but good luck getting him to do it quickly
Nathaniel Cruz
I don't think changing the board would change something, that's not what I meant. I meant to change the norm, to avoid making/respoding to shitty threads. Making good threads the norm, rather than meme threads
Cameron Lee
I think this just depend on the quality of the people then. And sadly I have to remember to you this is one of those places where generally bad people converge in.
We should bring back forums and boycot social networks, this is the real thing.
Eli Wilson
like i said before changing the norm without overhaul of the board would be even harder
just trust me user
Hudson Clark
When will she drop some news about her new album? I'm hyping for something since months.
Justin Morgan
soon i hope
i also hope she takes her time with the album though and doesn't let it sound rushed
Luke Richardson
Björk is one of the greatest minds of the contemporary music scene in which to art is concerned. She has the ability to combine pure poetry, perfectly executed songs, visual accompaniments that fit greatly with each idea of what the songs represent, and last but not least, a unique voice that comes deep inside one and touches your inner senses like you never experienced before.
Jose Jenkins
>And sadly I have to remember to you this is one of those places where generally bad people converge in. >I have to remember to you kys faggot
Josiah Barnes
yeah sure
Nathaniel Evans
>waifucunts complaining about the quality of our board
Andrew Carter
Tell me, tell me why the fuck do you feel the need to keep posting pics of her, what the fuck did that pic add to your comment? You know what it will add? People calling you a waiifufag, and for a good reason. And then you will get mad because "im not a waifufag, i was discussing music". Then why the fuck did you add the pic
Nolan Watson
>established to be one of the actual problems discussed on this thread
Nathaniel Collins
meta threads like this one are cancer waifu threads are cancer I really wish you Ricardos had the decency to keep your circlejerk to a single thread, even the kpop kids are able to do it
Henry Perez
Because this is an imageboard, if you remove the image aspect of what this website is conceived for, you actually remove one of the main elements which characterize the whole website. If you lurk more you will realize that there are people who discuss music and post pictures as well, it's how this website works: >still not realizing you're what makes the cancer bigger
People are talking here genuinely, if you don't realize it you're just another bored retarded user who wants to shipost.
Jacob Martin
This is a imageboard, so i post pics
Matthew White
cuz it gets you peeved lol
Matthew Green
>just another bored retarded user who wants to shipost.
Brayden Ramirez
Are you talking about me?
Matthew Carter
posting bjork in unwarranted contexts is also shitposting but idc because like that other user said it's comfy
posting how much you hate waifufags is shitposting too though because you could ignore the waifufags but then again i could also ignore the anti-waifufags so maybe i'm just a hypocrite lol
Kevin Jones
It's because there's a vicious circle of shitposting and false-flagging. People are pissed with the shitposting, so they shitpost.
Honestly, the thing that really messed Sup Forums up in the past few years is the anonymity. It used to promote free speech, now it promotes saying things you don't believe in to rile people up, who in turn just pretend to fall for your shit.
95% of posts on Sup Forums are not sincere. Someone makes a thread that claims something is objective? He is not serious. Someone makes a thread that seems to be concerned with plebs and patricians? Not serious. Any of the "now that the dust has settled" posts, the "XY is a meme" posts, anything that has a Pepe image attached, you can pretty much ignore them all. Most of them are absolutely meaningless.
Seriously, the best place to discuss music on this board right now is /daily/, if you can deal with some tripcode users. But the shitpost ratio is significantly lower than the rest of the board.
Blake Sullivan
GO BACK TO PLEBBIT
anonymity is the key feature of imageboards. avatarfags, waifufags, tripfags, and whiny wannabe UPPPPBOOOOOATTTers like you need to go to sites where you can just register your special snowflake-ness
Samuel Robinson
I think this is one of the most righteous answers possible. I agree with you with every thing user.
Tyler Morgan
ohayou reddit!
Parker Nguyen
you sound angry m8
have a bjork
Charles Lewis
You're prooving his concrete, logical theory.
Jayden Thompson
Hello Sup Forums, Stockhausen here. If I see someone talking badly about Bjork he will see my huge hands going abruptly into his rectum and therefore making explode his body.
Easton Ramirez
stick them in bjork instead you fat old man
Noah Hill
>Honestly, the thing that really messed Sup Forums up in the past few years is the anonymity. It used to promote free speech, now it promotes saying things you don't believe in to rile people up, who in turn just pretend to fall for your shit. >in the past few years This just shows how new you are >inb4 i have been here for 30 years It has ALWAYS been like this, always, there might be more shitposting nowadays, but there is also much more waifufagging today than years ago, and if anything it would be for that same reason
Juan Russell
You just said it's always been like this, and in the next sentence you say there is more shitposting and more waifufagging, which is exactly my point.
Nathan Gutierrez
Stockhausen here: you are going to explode.
Benjamin Bell
i feel you OP; welcome to neo Sup Forums this place is still cool at nights when kids are sleeping
Caleb Young
>ywn go out at night with stockhausen and bjork
Damn...
Chase Hughes
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Jose Morales
>implying Sup Forums was ever good
Gabriel Perez
What's the real problem with "waifufags" anyway? I'm new here essentially, but I don't see any real issues with them, it's been some nice comfy conversation until someone has abruptly step in and dropped some shit.
I kinda guess Bjork fans are way more calm and argumentative than many of other angry anons around these parts.
Jayden Sanchez
No Sup Forums is good in the european morning, americans are still sleeping
Isaiah Sanders
>I'm new here Good one Ricardo
Just go and ask any oldfags what happened when the kpop waifufags werent containned and you will understand why waifufags are cancer
Wyatt Morris
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Hunter Smith
Quite oldfag here. Just as many other anons here have already stated before, you're one of those bored asshole who has come here to drop the same inargumentative shit all over the place. I'm tired of people like you who wants to mislead conversations for no purpose outside flaming.
