"I've seldom ever heard a British band that I found listenable. In my opinion...

"I've seldom ever heard a British band that I found listenable. In my opinion, the British should just stop trying to play rock-and-roll altogether."

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he's got a point

>Oasis is the epitome of British rock and roll
>whiney acoustic pop rock ballad crap for 10 year old girls

Literally couldn't be more correct. The major British musical accomplishment of the 20th century was to make rock more palatable to white American audiences

Rock-and-roll was supposed to be good time fun music you drank and had sex to. Bongs turned it into a bunch of socialist whining.

>and I guess they should learn how to cook

Britain has produced some of the best music out there. Britpop is insufferable though, as is Lou Reed and his shitty screeching.

Lou was based as fuck.

>Britpop is insufferable though
Agreed. Oasis had 1 good song and are a bunch of a dickheads, Blur are absolute crap, and the rest are far more shit.

Why are the British such pathetic obvious derivatives? Name any halfway decent English artist and I'll show you the far superior original non-English artist they were stealing from.

Exception: Joe Meek. Literally the only innovative English artist in history.

I feel kinda bad for him. Dying a pleb is something I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy.

montie BTFO

Burial

>Bongs turned it into a bunch of socialist whining
I really like the Who as a brit band, but even still you could argue this about them.
The two undeniably best things that came from there are the Stones, best band in the world, and Eric Clapton.

Here's a favorite example of mine when people bring up the difference in British and American rock. Two songs, same year.

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>british bandmember is the only reason his talentless hack ass has any critical acclaim

King Crimson
Soft Machine
Pop Group

I have no clue what you're trying to prove

so it started out as one bad thing and turned into another bad thing

Just what I said.

King Crimson

Err, you Murrifats do know what the deal with Oasis was, right? They were a reaction _against_ the whiny drivel coming out of the US in the 90s.

>Pearl Jam
>Hole
>Smashing Pumpkins
>Korn

Ah, that's all good time fun rawk you can have a drink to in a pub, right?

I see what you're doing here. Yeah I mean, I get what you're saying.

This americans were too busy crying about how they smelt or being angry with their moms or whatever all through the 90s while brits partied non stop.

ITT: Argentinians, Dutch people, Turks and Greeks.

So...you don't like grunge, but the answer is to listen to boybands who make pop rock for tween girls?

The Fall

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What about
This Heat
Coil
King Crimson
My Bloody Valentine
Black Sabbath

>Pear Jam
>Whiny Drivel

wat?

Fuck yeah my goddam nigger.
I really like the Kinks and Living on a Thin Line Bust seriously just leave it to America to grab hold if its cock and balls and lay the real shit down hard.

"I first learned about Oasis from a magazine interview in '94. They were these two British brothers and every other word in the interview was an expletive. Their don't-give-a-fuck attitude to me was extremely refreshing at a time when the whole anti-rock star image was in. Then a bit later, I heard them on an alternative station while driving around San Francisco one evening. They've been the soundtrack of my life for 20 years."

The samefagging ITT is off the chain.

I recall hearing how Kiss toured in the UK in the 70s and were just laughed off as a joke.

Why the quotation marks? Who said that?
Led Zep did some crazy good rock and roll.
The Who did some crazy rock and roll
The cream had a couple of nice tunes
The Kinks had some crazy catchy tunes
Pink Floyd had some super rock n rolly tunes that would generally make me blow my load.
Def Leppard had me jizzing all over the place
Gary Moore had a few gay ass tunes that made me think of porn (He is Irish, does it count?)
Iron maiden gave me cancer but I still enoyed them
I dunno dude. A lot a good stuff from UK

Idk maybe public image limited

>Led Zep did some crazy good rock and roll.
>The Who did some crazy rock and roll
>The cream had a couple of nice tunes
>The Kinks had some crazy catchy tunes

Thank you Elvis, Chuck Berry, and the numerous black bluesmen whom Brits stole from.

>not liking Pulp

granted they borrowed from black Bluesmen like Howlin' Wolf but when they made it big in the US they were the only bands to actually pay Homage to them

Also the Who was shit and why didn't you list Black Sabbath?
Literally one of the best English bands of all time

>Thinking a man who's couldn't even play an instrument is the most innovative English artist in history.
Even Kanye could do more.

I like blur's s/t, but even that is 3.5/5 at best.

Black Sabbath and New Order are both British, though, so I mean...

I was like "hell yeah!" at this quote at first, but honestly the more I think about it, the dumber it seems to me.

Kind of like Lou Reed himself.

Like, fucking T Rex, dude.

>people ITT believe this is what he actually thought and not just a wind-up for the sake of generating controversy
>people ITT actually falling for Lou's b8
Sure are a lot of newfags in here

>actually pay Homage to them

How do you define this? In Zeppelin's case it meant ducking Willie Dixon for decades until he was forced to take them to court to get credit and compensation for this songs that they "homaged"

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>Ah, that's all good time fun rawk you can have a drink to in a pub, right?
listen to pub rock bands like Dr. Feelgood or Brinsley Schwarz and enjoy your drinks m8

rock and roll was already pretty shit though, changing sides of the ocean isn't magically going to make it interesting.

I was refereeing more to the earlier British bands from the 60's. Like the Rolling stones or the Animals.

The Stones got Howlin' Wolf on Shindig which never in a million years would have let a black blues artist.

and the earlier covers brought the blues back as it was a declining and almost exclusively black genre in the US during the 60's prior to the British invasion

Well, at least most Brits who went solo were consistant.

>My Bloody Valentine
you FUCKING cunt

>King Crimson
>My Bloody Valentine

I don't get it.

>Oasis
>boyband pop rock for teen girls

If anything they're shitty, loud as fuck ladrock anthems for 30something football hooligans to get shitfaced to.

pop group are shit fuck off

T-Rex were the Wiggles of the 70s. I mean, the cover art looks badass and you think they're going to sound like Black Sabbath, right? Until you listen to the music.

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Good argument

ITT: Americans with a superiority complex

What about Think Tank? Up there with the best Gorillaz stuff (it basically is a Gorillaz album)

>Coil
>rock n roll
>My Bloody Valentine
>British
wew there boyo

The British groups also revived interest in 50s rock-and-rollers like Chuck Berry who'd practically been forgotten in the States.

these are both goddamn fucking awful in their own way

you proved nothing

"The fact that so many books still name the Beatles as "the greatest or most significant or most influential" rock band ever only tells you how far rock music still is from becoming a serious art. Jazz critics have long recognized that the greatest jazz musicians of all times are Duke Ellington and John Coltrane, who were not the most famous or richest or best sellers of their times, let alone of all times. Classical critics rank the highly controversial Beethoven over classical musicians who were highly popular in courts around Europe. Rock critics are still blinded by commercial success. The Beatles sold more than anyone else (not true, by the way), therefore they must have been the greatest. Jazz critics grow up listening to a lot of jazz music of the past, classical critics grow up listening to a lot of classical music of the past. Rock critics are often totally ignorant of the rock music of the past, they barely know the best sellers. No wonder they will think that the Beatles did anything worthy of being saved."

Chuck had a big comeback hit with No Particular Place To Go in 64, right after getting out of jail. He was far from a nobody by the time the British Invasion happened.

...

How is Motorhead not good-time-fun pub rock as opposed to socialist whining?

Killing Joke says go fuck yourself

European music in general was very cheerful in the 90s because of the Cold War being over and there being this tremendous feeling of relief that the terror of invasion by the Red Army was gone.

Bloody hell, at least our angst was real (politics and such) as opposed to suburban white mommy issues problems.

Sorry. I'm from Britain/the UK myself and get confused over what it is

Not even John Cale?

>Much of the album's sound was conceived by John Cale, who stressed the experimental qualities of the band. Cale, who was influenced greatly by his work with La Monte Young, John Cage and the early Fluxus movement, encouraged the use of alternative ways of producing sound in music. Cale thought his sensibilities meshed well with Lou Reed's, who was already experimenting with alternative tunings. For instance, Reed had "invented" the ostrich guitar tuning for a song he wrote called "The Ostrich" for the short-lived band the Primitives. Ostrich guitar tuning consists of all strings being tuned to the same note. The method was utilized on songs "Venus in Furs" and "All Tomorrow's Parties". Often, the guitars were also tuned down a whole step, which produced a lower, fuller sound that Cale considered "sexy".[10]

>Cale's viola was used on several of the album's songs, notably "Venus in Furs" and "Black Angel's Death Song". The viola used guitar and mandolin strings, and when played loudly, Cale would liken its sound to that of an airplane engine.[16] Cale's viola technique usually involved drones, or single notes sustained over long periods of time. He would, however, vary his attack, speed, or even add other notes on top to create differing tones while maintaining a consistent pitch.

Lou Reed was bitter because he owed his career to a British rock musician.