Just bought a 4k tv. I usually only watch 1080p downloads. What are the best movies that must be watched in 4k?
Just bought a 4k tv. I usually only watch 1080p downloads. What are the best movies that must be watched in 4k?
Jack Perez
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Thomas Watson
None.
You got memed
Jason Wood
>tcl
Jeremiah Rivera
Game on it, buy a 1080 Ti, connect your PC with some long cables, wireless peripherals. Expensive, but you'll know what true 4K gaming means.
For movies, you can watch those comic blockbusters, Valerian, probably Annihilation soon. Also Planet Earth II is a nice 4K documentary.
Daniel Campbell
anything pre 90s or post 00s. everything in the 90s was shot on really shitty film stock so there's no point in a 4k transfer, and everything shot on digital up until fairly recently was mastered in 2k so a 4k transfer is impossible.
Jayden Turner
You got memed on
Jose Anderson
Explain
Thomas Richardson
Unfortunately true. The 90s were the best times story/image quality wise, but now it can't be transferred. 60s movies look better in a remaster. Modern movies are usually shitty.
Ian Johnson
There’s like 5 4K movies. It’s a meme.
Owen Parker
>buying a tv because it is marketed with big numbers
Ryder Brooks
And those 5 are..?
Jose Long
this
Jace Wood
shit.
Jason Thompson
Incorrect. But some are upscales. 4K is more like future proofing, there is no point in buying 1080p anymore, 1080p only exists fopr ultra lowend now.
Leo Smith
most of them are pretty bad though, but its 2018 and you need to fill the boredom somehow
Stargate SG1 1080p Remaster WHEN
Connor Reed
:D
I got the same one at costco and I paid $45 since I used my Citi rewards.
It's a pretty sweet tv
Cameron Ramirez
Gravity
Carter Mitchell
Lecture 1A | MIT 6.001 Structure and Interpretation, 1986
Oliver Lee
BR 2049 was fucking amazing in 4k
Kayden Bennett
Annhilation will be fucking amazing once the BD comes out
I have 2049 in my download list
Brody Russell
I got the Samsung one at Costco. Connects to WiFi and has built in Netflix and youtube. Shit is bretty cool.
Wyatt Martin
Fucking Love that place the TLC was $360 for the 55" so I couldn't resist, it connects to Netflix and Hulu and all that stuff but frankly I don't use any of those services since it's connected to my thinkpad anyways.
Oliver Sanders
>120hz
>Probably a shitty 60hz panel and rest is picturing engine
>TCL
How does it feel to be poor
Carson Howard
As empty and feckless as being rich but without the fear of hitting rock-bottom. Also I haven't worked since February so that's good too.
Henry Perez
Nice. I have the same thing in 1080p @ 42"and it's not bad for a "smart TV"
Aiden Foster
You 2 probably never watched at a 4k panel, u stuck in middle age
Charles Cooper
There are no 120 Hz UHD TVs. HDMI 2.0 barely handles 60 FPS. Prove me wrong.
I do, just for movies, I would not switch if I had a 1080p TV already. For games I would definitely if I had the matching GPU.
Adrian Foster
Are these TV's even powerful enough to let you play them off a connected HDD to their USB port?
Nathaniel Wilson
yes but these "smart" things are horrible
build a htpc or android box
Carson Sanchez
4k tv is even great for console gaming, if you're that kind of person
Gavin Cox
my roommate just bought one and it was smashed already
David Moore
While 4k 120hz isn't supported, the panels sometimes support 120hz in which they can imitate higher frame rates. Some TVs support 1080p 120hz which can be used is some use cases
Elijah Bell
But only for native 4K content
The only reason to play in 4K is the native AA and detail level
Consoles are sub 30 FPS,
> if you're that kind of person
Hz only matter when you can deliver enough frames for them. Movies run at 24 FPS.
John Murphy
>You 2 probably never watched at a 4k panel, u stuck in middle age
I'm used to 4/8k for a while now, i'm not impressed with the curent upscalling methods.
Call me when we get movies recorded in 8/9k so we can get some masters able to produce good 4k content.
Also most tv are UHD and not 4k.
Jason Garcia
I've got a 65" 1080p samsung. picture is damn good imo. I sit like 8+ ft away from it so pretty much everything looks great. By the time it dies they'll be rolling out 8 or 10K displays and this whole "4K" fad now will be like so meh. Hope to god they (Paramount Studios) get off they asses and finally release the whole Seven Days TV Show on DVD/Blu-ray. Show ran from 1999-2001 so it's fucking time to give it a disc release. Already voted for it on TVShows on DVD.com
Cooper Cooper
I don't think any of those movies had an UHD release. That other user is right, there are like 5 real 4K movies.
Nathan Brown
Don't buy cheap brands for a TV you want to use to watch high quality cinema, idiot.
Hudson Garcia
Realorfake4k.com
Grayson Parker
Anthony Gomez
Isnt the input lag shitty as fuck on a 4k tv and 60hz very teared like?
Camden Rogers
you should have gotten an OLED or QLED tv, those cheap TVs really have shitty picture quality an OLED or QLED is imo a bigger upgrade over 4k, also nits that TV probably doesn't even do more than 200-500 nits whereas an OLED or QLED tv will do 1500-2000 or more
Oliver Parker
Most 4k TVs have a "gaming" or a "computer" mode. It reduces the input lag and the tearing.
60hz is the default in 4k. You can reduce the resolution and up the refresh rate in your device
Jaxson Reed
>Buy a tv for 4k
>Cable still only comes through 1080i
What the fuck is the point?
Joseph Rogers
Hate to break it to you, but those cheapo 4K tv's aren't actual 4k. Well, technically they are, but they use a format that literally no company uses (24hz), so you literally can't even use those built-in apps to stream in 4k. I would return it and get a proper 4k TV if you're actually planning to buy 4k media.
Dylan Russell
70's were the best era of film imo. It was before (I guess during, but still) Hollywood blockbusters were a thing, and American studio's weren't afraid to take risks
OP should watch something like a Terrence Mallick movie. Those are usually a good way to break in a new TV. Either that or Laurence of Arabia
Carter Young
You all got memed even harder than you think.
Brayden Edwards
Stream a 2000's era 480p Moe anime from your phone to the TV for the optimal experience
Cooper Ramirez
honestly, but fuck paying for cable.
Benjamin Robinson
Return the tcl piece of shit and get a Sony, the only non oled Tv worth buying
William Richardson
>non oled tv
>worth buying
kys
Hunter Morgan
1080p blu rays also have chroma subsampling.
10 bit color 4k at 4:2:0 is much nicer than 8 bit color 1080p at 4:2:0.
Isaac Murphy
>ganing on a tv
>ever
Nigga "game mode" desn't even dsable all the post processing. They intentionally leave it on because they think consumers will forget they turned them off and get mad the image looks like shit.
Projectors for watching movies, monitors for everything else. TVs are obsolete.
Hunter Cook
BLACKED RAW is pretty good in 4k
Colton Ross
Right but the point is "4K" video is true native 1080p video and "1080p video is true native 540p video due to chroma sub sampling
>tl;dr
You literally need to have 8K resolution video to actually enjoy true native 4K video on a 4K TV which virtually doesn't exist.
Jayden Flores
Are you retarded? Do you think 4:2:0 at 1080p is going to somehow look any better?
Leo Cooper
No, you still have the full 4k of luma information, retard.
Julian Edwards
No you stupid shit, I'm just pointing out their's essentially 0 content for 4K TVs (ie 8K video)
Daniel Evans
So are 1080p TVs a scam because you need a 4K TV to experience "true" native 1080p video?
Eli Hall
>best movies
all movies are leftist propaganda films
Noah Moore
There's essentially 0 content for 1080p TVs (ie 4K video). I guess if you bought a 1080p TV instead of a 540p TV you got scammed hard.
Nathan Morales
Which doesn't mean shit if you watch color video you dumb fuck.
No because they let you enjoy true native 1080p video (ie "4K" video)
Ian Diaz
Open your eyes you fucking imbeciles.
Jordan Bennett
>Which doesn't mean shit if you watch color video you dumb fuck.
Idiot, color videos have luma information too.
Dominic Hughes
No they don't. Because when you're watching "4K" video on a 1080p TV 75% of the luma information gets erased you fucking retard.
Aiden Flores
no shit but color is 100X more important on a fucking COLOR video
luma isn't as important as color
Justin Johnson
Which looks better?
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The first is the equivalent of 1080p video displayed on a 1080p display. The second is the equivalent of 1080p video displayed on a 4k display.
Oliver Parker
>no shit but color is 100X more important on a fucking COLOR video
No it's not, the whole point of chroma subsampling is that an image looks way better if you reduce the color resolution compared to reducing the luma.
Michael Bennett
Sebastian Moore
360 dollars only ??
wtf , why is it so cheap , 4k shit is expensive as fuck here in europe.
Tyler Young
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Ayden Ramirez
these cheap ass "4K" displays are fucking disgusting pieces of shit. horrible IQ. terrible build quality. garbage
Jason Garcia
Tell me which one of these is 4:4:4 and which one is 4:2:0.
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Gabriel James
wtf are you on about!
user is just saying """4k""" video looks better on a 1080p display than """4k""" video on a 4K display because of chroma sub sampling that even blu-rays have.
Cooper Lopez
I think you're replying to the wrong person, I'm arguing against the retard who can't understand chroma subsampling.
Daniel Nelson
chroma sub sampling was literally implemented because it reduced file size at the cost of quality you idiots
Lucas Clark
>user is just saying """4k""" video looks better on a 1080p display than """4k""" video on a 4K display because of chroma sub sampling that even blu-rays have.
That's objectively wrong, because you are LITERALLY throwing away luma information by downscaling to 1080p. Furthermore, proper chroma upscaling will look better than the equivalent picture in 1080p which would be nearest neighbor.
Nicholas Adams
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>no shit but color is 100X more important on a fucking COLOR video
This is blatantly, false as you can see here: It reduces the quality somewhat compared to a 4:4:4 4k video, but a 4:2:0 4k video looks way better than a 4:4:4 1080p video.
Aiden Martinez
No fucking shit. So was JPEG. And H.264. What? You think everything should be raw pixel data? Are you retarded? That still doesn't change the fact that a 1080p display will be LITERALLY throwing away pixel information.
Luke Sullivan
Pretty good blog analyzing some 4k releases against their 1080p counterparts.
archimago.blogspot.com
tl;dr get Dunkirk and Blade Runner 2049
Nathan Perez
>That's objectively wrong, because you are LITERALLY throwing away luma information by downscaling to 1080p.
Correct but this doesn't matter because you're now getting full color info on all pixels.
>Furthermore, proper chroma upscaling will look better than the equivalent picture in 1080p which would be nearest neighbor.
Wrong, no matter how good the chroma upscaler is you are still inherently resizing a native image to a higher resolution.
Anthony Perez
>4:2:0 4k video looks way better than a 4:4:4 1080p video.
Wrong, 4:2:0 """4K""" video is just upscaled 1080p video with more luma info. It will still look like absolute ass anywhere 2 colors meet.
James Rodriguez
luma isn't important m8, that would only be the case if the video was in black and white.
People can see 100 million colors, 99% of video out there is low bit-rate 8-bit video (16 millon). Think about that son.
Ryder Richardson
>Correct but this doesn't matter because you're now getting full color info on all pixels.
Let me tell you a little secret you fucking retard. You are NEVER getting the full color info on ANY pixel. There are no mainstream video codecs that convert losslessly from the raw data captured by the camera.
>Wrong, no matter how good the chroma upscaler is you are still inherently resizing a native image to a higher resolution.
Which looks much better than leaving it at the native resolution and increasing the pixel size.
Yes, you obviously know better than the thousands of scientists who study this stuff looking to get the maximum quality in the lowest size possible because billions of dollars of bandwidth costs are on the line.
Landon Bennett
1. Cheap Chinese brand
2. Price was a warehouse member price
But it's rated quite high with consumer reports and I'm pretty happy with it considering I just watch shows at night with it
Ryder Davis
4:4:4 h264 and 4:4:4 hevc can do this but it's expensive and the public is generally stupid so 4:2:0 exists now.
no one here said 1080p upscaled to 4k looks good
The only reason 4:2:0 was ever used is because companies can drown people with buzzwords like "full HD". Most people are too stupid to know or understand how chroma sub-sampling works. In fact a lot of folks are unironically watching live tv ("""480p""", ie true native 240p) on 4K TVs.
David Morris
>4:4:4 h264 and 4:4:4 hevc can do this
No it can't. Do you know how much space RAW camera data takes? Even if it's 4:4:4 you are losing data due to compression you fucking idiot.
>no one here said 1080p upscaled to 4k looks good
I did and it's correct.
Simply look at the difference of these 2.
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>The only reason 4:2:0 was ever used is because companies can drown people with buzzwords like "full HD"
No, it's to save bandwidth costs you fucking idiot. 1080p 4:2:0 will look miles better than 720p 4:4:4 at the same bitrate. That is an objective fact backed by billions of dollars of research.
I seriously can't comprehend how stupid you are.
Jordan Flores
4k is great for BBC documentaries.
Isaiah Rogers
Buy laserdiscs and betamax video cassettes
Andrew Parker
>using jpg. images as proof for how a display would show images
Jack Scott
meant .png, dsoen't matter you need to take footage of the display itself
Jason James
good thread
Bentley Hill
Luis Richardson
Unfortunately this is the only one in native 4K. Do you know others? I wish to see something like "The future is wild" or Alien Planet.
Jace Gutierrez
Nicholas Perry
Planet earth II is also native 4k.
and "Earth: One Amazing Day" is another 4k native res they've released, though it's only 90 minutes compared to the other two which are multi-hour.
James Evans
>buy X900E
>Native 120hz VA panel
>good HDR
>ok input lag
>4k@60hz and 4:4:4 for desktop use
>1080p@120hz and 4:4:4 for those few games I play
There are really not many reasons anymore to buy a monitor for general use anymore
Daniel Green
There are, browsing on a 4K TV can be comfy, but annoying if you do productive work.
Ryan Lopez
>tearing
turn on vsync dimwit.
Jaxson Ortiz
the 49" is fine, the 55 and 65 are excessive unless you've got a ton of space at your desk.
the 49" is just about as large as you can go, but looks good without GUI scaling at 3.5 to 4 feet viewing distance.
James Moore
You can watch The Hobbit in 4k. It's a CGI masterpiece and pushes 4k abilities to a high standard, although the movie horribly butchers the original story, but then again, modern movies tend to do that