HEIF vrs .jpg?

What is Sup Forums going to do with HEIF?

Is it the future?
Are the licensing issues too stupid?
Did Apple kill it by adopting it first?

Google is putting it in all the smartphones too, so expect the tech nubes to keep trying to upload them.

Attached: heif-vs-jpg.jpg (597x268, 40K)

Other urls found in this thread:

opus-codec.org/comparison/
paste.debian.net/1015375/
aomediacodec.github.io/av1-avif/
youtu.be/MHcdsO0Ese4
cnet.com/news/google-mozilla-av1-photo-format-could-outdo-aging-jpeg/
twitter.com/SFWRedditGifs

>measly 20% size savings
>attempts to upset universally compatible format
Good joke.

>HEIF

Hopefully nothing, the only worthwhile image format to adopt is FLIF.

wow, whole 0.3mb
JPG is like mp3. it's not something that anyone actually wants to replace

Flif(for lossless) or webp(for lossy). Open, no licensing, transparency and animations. I seriously hope heif doesn't take off - multiple codecs, multiple file extensions, it's a clusterfuck.

What's wrong with webp

meanwhile pngquant and imagemagick save 2-4 times the size of your usual pngs >jpeglets btfo

If that's the best example you've got, it's not going to take off at all.

reminder that this shit is literally image rendering in JavaScript for a nearly intangible net gain for the end user.
horrible, horrible end

>using any sort of image format that's not visually lossless

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>webp
Eat shit nigger.

Name a better lossy codec that
>has no royalties
>supports animations
>support transparency

This is odd. Sup Forums embraces webm, why not webp?

this is a farce.
The compression you get isn´t even that great.
What manufactures really should be doing is stop asking for the insane markups on flash space.
I´m still using a 64gigs phone in 2018 which is insane if you ask me simply because I´m not willing to pay over 100 bucks more for the bigger version

If no one used BPG then who will use BPG with more botnet?

I hope that the i-frame format from AV1 just gets made the next image standard: equally covered by (non-)patent shit, will be HW accelerated by every new device built after ~2020, will have compression ratios comparable to all this HEVC-based shit.

>HEIF vs jpg
>dot jaypeg
lmao

>he doesn't have a script that converts all his images to webms.

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>color quantization
Literally outdated GIF.
You are as evil as JPEG artifacts.

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Lots of people do, it's just too much of a hassle to replace such well established formats that are still considered good enough.

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it says in the pic it's meant for screen caps not your boob pics

For 128kbps and under, MP3 sucks. Use OGG Vorbis or the newer Opus.
opus-codec.org/comparison/

Here is an example of the converted picture

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And here is the original

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>>Are the licensing issues too stupid?
if you even have to ever think about licensing issues, something's gone badly wrong and that's a good reason to not touch a format. Just the fact that you'd ask the question at all is a red flag.

why the fuck photbooth doesn't save in it

jpg still looks worse, amazing

and this is VP8/webp essentially? standardize this shit already

How the fuck is this so good in quality while so small in filesize?

>so good in quality
that's like jpeg 50 at best

>Lots of people.

THERE'S DOZENS OF US! DOZENS!

AVIF is the future.

Yeah it's just vp8, I scale the bitrate based on the file dimensions.

>image file size smaller than both images combined
>HEIF is encoded in JPG
>You being useless
Pick three

They have a small file size, another thing I thought of is that you can include the source of said image in the title so that file name doesn't even matter.

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>using a video container to display image files
this is the kind of retarded future i don't want to live in

I would use webp but Sup Forums doesn't support it.
Also isn't video just a stream of images?

example 2

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Huh seems I can't upload a video of that size, didn't know that was a thing.

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Another example

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There's nothing wrong with it. But the way he did it will eat CPU cycles. The video is basically refreshing non-stop. There was a thread a while ago on Sup Forums trying to figure out to make it more useful.

>chasing after formats that come and go

pointless.

Isn't that the whole point of webp?
Also when the hell is vp9 going to be allowed

I'd like to think anyone that was aware of a better alternative would want it, it's just not worth the effort to implement. I don't know though, maybe there are retards that think jpeg and mp3 are the pinnacle of digital media.

Script sauce?

yes png shits up everything, creating artifacts and dirtyness all around, thanks for pointing it out.

wew lad, I can't even see it, and it's not like I can't open webm

we don't even have vp9

it's a pretty bare bones script.
plz no bully
paste.debian.net/1015375/

>posts a jpg to show the differences between jpg and heif
You dumb?

>heif-vs-jpg.jpg
a .jpg to show the the difference between jpg and something else.

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aomediacodec.github.io/av1-avif/

I really don't see how it's a hassle.

Maybe in the 1980's when all software had to be manually updated.
But everything is connected to the internet now so updating is easy.

All they need is some consensus on that the new standard is.
Unfortunately that's where everything breaks down because they all want to make a shekel and nobody is willing to pay.

god tier
>BPG

good tier
>FLIF

gay tier
>webp

outdated SHIT tier
>everything else

But FLIF is better than BPG

>Using jpg for an image consisting of solid, simple colors and not png
Hmm

Some people save their files very strange

Half of these examples are stored in the wrong fucking format in the first place, that image would be roughly the same size as the webm as a jpeg.

>I dont understand how standards work

>I don't know how debating works

The JS is just a demo you despicable cretin.

It's a hassle for the people that have to properly implement the new standard into their software, not for the end user to update, smart aleck.

>bpg
>god tier
Not really. Same garbage as heif.

this.

No it isn't.

It's only a "hassle" for people making graphical libraries.
Nobody is implementing their own JPEG engines, that would be insane.

Is that the famous Polish ISIS fighter, Muhammad Ibn-Kolonko?

youtu.be/MHcdsO0Ese4

>compare these two images which are both now jpgs

>using anything but .png

>JPG is like mp3. it's not something that anyone actually wants to replace
Name a streaming site that uses MP3.

96 kbps Opus > 320 kbps MP3

elder god tier:
>.bmp

dumb immature meme tier:
>everything else

No, terry fights for the lord to kill the cia niggers.
They glow in the dark

AVIF (AV1 Still Image File Format)
>
HEIF (High Efficiency Image File Format)
=
BPG (Better Portable Graphics)
>
other old shit obsolete formats

spotify

soundcloud

FLIF should replace PNG, while HEIF should replace JPEG.

OP here, as it seems spotify uses OGG

Lossy formats are obsolete.

Avif>flif>webp.
Hevc can fuck off.

>streaming
I just vomited a little in my mouth

they use OGG. the fact that you don't know this means you shouldn't be talking about how streaming works at all.
why are people so upset about the concept of streaming? i stream from my own server. use spotify for shit I haven't heard yet. local music for newer stuff. why would i limit myself to any one method?

>why are people so upset about the concept of streaming
If you had the option to have your tank full all the times, why the fuck would you opt to constantly refill it

absolutely this.

a sure sign of an idiot is someone who thinks car analogies work for computers. luddites are the worst.

>why would i limit myself to any one method?
You are doing fine. The problem is when retards don't even have a library and ONLY rely on Spotify.

you do realize that the saving are dependent on the SSIM/PSNR/whatever metric you use. For highly compressed images HEIF can cut the image size in half vs jpeg while providing equal or better quality.

literally every second webradio stream

I push for opus. opus 32kbit/s yields immense results, it's true! (32 kbit/s can be streamed over gprs)

computers are like roads, not like cars.
most people get this wrong.
the cars are the software.

no matter how good your car might be, the overall texture, structure and direction of the road dictates how and where you're going. got a fast super car, e.g. good and expensive premium software like photoshop for example? doesn't matter when it's a muddy dirt road like a raspberry pi (arm architecture).

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>a tiny 5% less in size
lmao no
did the doctor dropped you on birth or something

Speaking of av1, where the hell is it?

I remember reading a report almost 2 months ago about it being 3000 tines slower to encode than hevc.

With almost every major tech company involved in it, i thought i would hear more about it.

Are there any tools (that hopefully don't require me to compile them because that shit is annoying) available to even create HEIF images?

pngquant is too lossy.

>bmp
>not wbmp

>pngquant is too lossy.
only for shades of colour and even then visually noticeable degradation is minor, not for flat/single colours like this page we shitpost on

>blocks your path
nothing personal kiddo

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Oh, excuse me, princess, let me use an analogy more fitting for your faggot ass, then
Would you rather have a cock inside you constantly or have it violently rammed in and out all the time

The current image formats are fine. Like everything else that is the modern web, switching to something new will have significant drawbacks.

cnet.com/news/google-mozilla-av1-photo-format-could-outdo-aging-jpeg/

SUPERIOR

Make it longer. Every time the video cycles it re-renders the frame. Setting the video to 1-4 seconds long means it won't re-render the image every few milliseconds.