Plagiarism Thread: Are you fucking kidding me edition
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Plagiarism Thread: Are you fucking kidding me edition
Kayden Price
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Connor Reed
It's not a note-for-note rip-off really. Yep, it sounds somewhat similar, but that's it. By this logic, you can deconstruct a lot artists from Led Zeppelin to Sonic Youth.
Same as people claiming Cobain ripped off More Than A Feeling. The songs are from completely different eras, have different sound. He might have taken the beat, but changed the melody completely, built a different song on it.
Joseph Wood
I generally agree with you but that's a lot more than "somewhat" similar, the Nirvana riff is almost note-for-note lifted from the Killing Joke tune
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Andrew Parker
I hope no one forgot
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Dylan Ward
Mutually, I hope no one forgot that Branca mentored Gira when he arrived in New York in 1982 and Gira played in his orchestra before forming and dissolving Circus Mort.
Adrian Walker
Cobain himself admitted he ripped off that riff from More Than A Feeling, it's not a claim. He would even begin to play part of More Than A Feeling at shows instead of just doing Smells Like Teen Spirit.
Isaac Diaz
Well, the first half of the riff is very similar indeed. The second part is different.
Nevertheless, I'd understand the hate totally if it was, say, Green Day with their most commercial album and they ripped off a top 40 hit from the past. But Cobain really wasn't caring as much about money. Nevermind's sales took him pretty much by surprise and he went to reject its sound. If he really cared about success, he wouldn't make In Utero, record all those Vaselines covers and just make tame whiny teenage pop-rock for radio. He cared more about his punk "cred" and did an hero, what more do people want? The rest is the work of radio, MTV, and press. Cobain absolutely didn't think of himself as icon, he was down-to-earth even in his last interviews and rejected his fame as he could.
Nathan Stewart
>that makes it OK
Parker Butler
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basically the same song
Landon Fisher
See Also, Wikipedia says,
>Cobain himself held similar opinions, saying that it "was such a clichéd riff. It was so close to a Boston riff or [The Kingsmen's] 'Louie Louie.'"[4] However, Rikky Rooksby points out that "Smells Like Teen Spirit" and "More Than a Feeling" follow different chord progressions.
Also, Cobain himself started hating playing that song after its success.
Ian Flores
I'm not saying it makes it ok but it establishes their association.
It would've been a different thing to have borrowed from Rhys Chatham or David Behrman or someone to which he had no relation.
Again, he played in his orchestra. He probably rehearsed and performed the same riff alongside Branca at some point.
Isaiah Barnes
not really melodically but thematically
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Zachary Allen
not really even that close
Gavin Sanders
same label too
Lucas Reed
Reminder that Killing Joke ripped off The Damned.
Isaac Reed
Brian Jonestown Massacre copied Spacemen 3 and every other big psych band
Benjamin Hughes
The main riff is similar yeah, but that's it. They veer off to completely different paths, paths that I both love since I love both artists.
Juan Bell
Its not really a rip off because they are close friends, and they are associated and stuff
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Cameron Cook
in fact here thay are both of them playing said song
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Austin Hill
That's kind of their thing though
Evan Phillips
I got so unreasonably mad at this when I first saw it
Carson Hill
Also, I remembered
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Logan Allen
Primus and King Crimson
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Jeremiah Nelson
here's a panda bear ripoff as well
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Ethan Evans
as Sup Forums is having a couple of threads about The Strokes,let me tell ya something
>Under Cover Of Darkness(2011):
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>Birds(2015):
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Justin Robinson
I mean I don't care at all, loads of musicians lift shit, I'm not strictly against it or whatever. Shit, Radiohead are my favorite band and they generously borrow other artists' work all the time, it's just how it goes.
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Leo Lewis
Stranger Think shitposts here, too. He comes and goes. Pretty weird. He's like Car Seat Headrest but without the originality or shitposting determination.
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Nicholas Brown
this is the worst
Josiah Adams
piece of shit
Adam Evans
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Can't believe they got away with it
Ethan Edwards
i doubt anyone else knows (or gives a shit), but it gave me a laff when i noticed it
Carter King
Dude you really did
Landon Anderson
pretty sure I've seen his posts b4, like right after he released that track. Barefaced self-promo, he even mentioned Anco
It's too fuckin bad cause I actually really like the song, it's just such an obvious rip that I can't give him credit for any of it
I was willing to forgive them until the chorus lmao
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John Davis
tame impala and pablito ruis (argetinan singer)
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Charles Kelly
Man his voice is like everything that's bad and annoying about Avey's voice and none of the good parts
Angel Evans
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It's just the drums but I swear to god I've heard so many songs that use that same drum line lately
Samuel Johnson
Here's a case where plagiarism actually works, where the copier (Manilla Road) beats the original (Angel Witch):
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Dokken self-plagiarized hard on "Under Lock and Key".
These two songs are literally the same just in a different tempo and key:
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It took me a while before I realized that this is actually the exact same riff as the acoustic intro to "Unchain the Night", but even though it does rip off ITS OWN FUCKING ALBUM, I'd say it's passable...I mean, it's obviously played in a much heavier style and thus completely changes the sound and mood of it. It's a pretty widely used riff, by the way; bands that have used it include Iron Maiden ("2 minutes to Midnight"), Accept ("Flash Rockin' Man"), Grave Digger ("Heavy Metal Breakdown", "The Dark of the Sun") and more. It's one of the very few upbeat rockers on here and this time the distortion pedal is pushed a bit more as well, but in the end, it's hardly noteworthy.
Alexander Walker
It is, though.
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Dominic Bennett
Coldplay's new song vs Lil Waynes How to Love
Landon Hall
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the Number Girl song also sounds somewhat like Gigantic by Pixies
Adrian Robinson
Planet Telex and My Iron Lung both borrow from this. Makes sense though. youtube.com
Brandon Carter
Is it really a Panda ripoff if it's Panda sampling?
Hunter Hernandez
If you're not shitposting it's Be My Baby. It gets bit all the time, usually intentionally
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Gabriel James
Sweater Song is a well known ripoff of I Bleed. They are way too similar to be coincidence.
Thomas Hill
>I once had that nicking happen with Leo Sayer. Do you remember that song 'When I Need You'?" Cohen sings the chorus of Sayer's number one hit from 1977, then segues into 'And Jane came by with a lock of your hair', a lyric from 'Famous Blue Raincoat'. 'Somebody sued them on my behalf … and they did settle', even though, he laughs, 'they hired a musicologist, who said, that particular motif was in the public domain and, in fact, could be traced back as far as Schubert.
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Nolan Scott
lrn2 Hal Blaine
Elijah Gutierrez
how is this song similar to planet telex or my iron lung?
Jackson Allen
I wouldn't say it's ripping off a particular song persay, but this totally apes Radiohead's signature style:
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Kayden Scott
The chord progression is the same in the chorus for Telex and posted song. It's also the same in the verse for Lung and posted song. To be fair, the second example is also based on Rachmaninoff.
Levi Sanders
wrong order. the nirvana one was first.
also I was NOT expecting the sound of the rest of that teenage fanclub song. went from nirvana to oasis rather quick
Jackson Reyes
pleb not knowing both iggy and jet agreed they ripped off motown tunes.
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Nolan Turner
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and LCD Soundsystem's Dance Yrself Clean.
Logan Barnes
Remember when Panda Bear blatantly ripped off the Beach Boys?
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Noah Rodriguez
FUCK
Liam Russell
It's basically a cover with other lyrics. cunts.
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Levi Reyes
I disagree with most of these being plagiarism, but Ok I can totally see this being a ripoff. Sounds almost exactly the same
Lincoln Reyes
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the video doesn't included Venom's Welcome to Hell song or Helloween's Phantoms Of Death pretty sure there are other bands who've used this riff
Levi Watson
I don't understand the Pokemon one