>Lyor Cohen, YouTube's global head of music, says the company is trying to "frustrate" free YouTube users to that they're subsequently "seduced" into paying for a monthly subscription. YouTube's unnamed subscription service is described as a "necessary conterweight" to Apple Music and Spotify. "You're not going to be happy after you are jamming to Stairway to Heaven and you get an ad right after that," said Cohen.
Will this be a successful strategy? Will you subscribe? Or will this be the first salvo in a new round of anti anti anti adblock wars, because surely, YouTube knows the first response by the users will be to try and block the ads. Will the technology of freedom be able to do battle with the Tube of You?
you do realize that they already have a music streaming service. technically its included in a YT red sub.
Cameron Scott
Another one? They already have two streaming subscription services, Google Play Music and YouTube Red. What's the point of a third one?
Caleb Parker
I don't listen to music on YouTube obviously. I wouldn't think anyone here does.
Parker Wilson
>using youtube to stream music If you browse this site and this is a problem for you, please go back.
Christian Bailey
Honestly they probably don't care much about desktop users anymore if an increasing number of users exclusively uses YouTube through Google's mobile apps.
Google being Google. At least Play Music streaming subscriptions and YouTube Red are the same package. They still didn't manage to merge both as promised last year.
I'm worried that it's the big camel nose under the tent. The ads will get longer, more numerous, and begin interrupting the video you're watching at several points. I hope the adblock warriors will be able to counter the tricks that YouTube will try to use to thwart freedom.
Matthew Reyes
>streaming instead of downloading you deserve what you get
Jayden Roberts
Merely a coincidence, stupid goyim.
Owen Moore
>trying to "frustrate" free YouTube users soo the majority of them?
Elijah Gray
good thing YT has audio only streams :^)
Jordan White
/biz/ major here. No it is a terrible strategy, it will have a small benefit, while ruining there customer image.
I mean google is closer to a natural monopoly, rather then monopolistic competition. It costs a lot to run large servers that host video. They might be able to get away with shit like this, but it will fuck them over in a decade or two.
Also, MIS, so databases and shit.
Asher Barnes
>install uBlock Origin >ad-free Stairway to Heaven what's the point of this again?
Jaxson Reyes
sometimes I do if my server goes down, but it's fake and gay. ads in the middle of songs, fucking garbage. bandcamp is still okay
Isaac Perez
I'm guessing that YouTube must be planning to launch some ads that somehow block uBlock, right? Because like you said, what would be the point?
Evan Thompson
>adblock filters update list of filters to include youtube's ublock blocker >update uBlock Origin >no longer a problem
Daniel Reed
Normies don't use adblockers. I bet their profits cover the proportionally smaller amount of people who use it. So they'll probably update their adds, then adblockers will update too and that's it.
Tyler Davis
>enter artist name and then topic >youtube-dl -f 251 -x --audio-format "opus" >get almost everything in high quality .opus
>YouTube's unnamed subscription service Wait, so what happened to YouTube Red(tm) thing? >YouTube ads A fucking what?
Adrian Lee
I guess the bare metal bottom line is, YouTube wants more money, so they're going to deliver more ads.
Blake Reyes
>-f 251 --audio-format "opus" >explicitly choose format >potentially force transcoding you really that retarded to skim the man page? >Since the end of April 2015 and version 2015.04.26, youtube-dl uses -f bestvideo+bestaudio/best as the default format selection
came to post this, although I did use YouTube to find some pretty cool music, then went to buy it or download it
Robert Martinez
*+on their phones ~40% is a reasonable estimate of users that use adblockers on desktop computers now. Google mostly countered that by lowering video resolution to 360p when YouTube has been running for several minutes in a background tab.
they've been "working on a fix" since the day of release but if you have an adbock you can't see jack shit
Jacob Reyes
>music ripped on phone >ublock on pc What are ads?
Parker Russell
We block ads on JewTubes anyway, who gives a fuck.
Bentley Perry
Source?
Nicholas Garcia
>Cohen kek
Xavier Richardson
actually, the user paying google directly is a positive innovation in the business model, effectively transforming the product (the user) into the customer. This way, instead of ad companies being the customer, and the users the product, a more healthy relationship is established, as it is with 99% of all other company-end user relationships, where the user is the customer, forcing the company to be responsive to them, not some shadowy 3rd party MNC with interests in various nasty global schemes
Dylan Powell
Isn't that illegal? Like raising the price of something right before it goes on "sale."
Andrew Roberts
>paying for being spied on
Angel Cox
spotify did that shit right out of the gate though, its a completely different equation dropping this after being relatively nonexistent
Angel Fisher
Jokes on them I use an adblocker and download the videos using youtubedl because I'd rather have videos saved onto my computer even if they're just random stupid youtube videos. Fuck streaming anything ever period. I'd download twitch streams if I could still interact with the stream chat using dimensional time-wizard magic.
Anthony Kelly
All of a sudden the shuffle button on playlists has broken for me to where it loops the 2nd video in every single playlist over and over. It wasn't doing this yesterday. Anyone have a solution or is this just YouTube's end being stupid?
Noah Lewis
>implying Google couldn't get around this by starting to offer a reverse proxy service where ads are edited by the reverse proxy to appear as first party resources, then when you request those resources the reverse proxy service requests the ads/other tracking scripts and sends them back to you as those first party resources effectively circumventing all host based adblockers/script controls/etc.
>Will you subscribe? No. Youtube's selective censorship has been increasing rapidly. There is no way I can support any Google service financially. I'll keep using ublock origin and if that stops working then I'll probably just stop using YouTube.
Aiden Foster
I thought everyone had an ad blocker?
Noah Reed
Where else can I find 1080p music?
Aaron Green
What's up with the ads showing in the bar? I've noticed it for a few months.
Eli Gonzalez
>HE DOESNT LISTEN TO 4K MUSIC UMM WHAT IS THIS 2009
Lucas Baker
>have android apps from before you[RED]tube was created >still work >can lock/sleep phone screen without music stopping >no ads
really, what are you guys doing wrong?
Jaxon Perry
sounds retarded considering the various other music streaming services that people already use that don't put ads in the middle of your song
Charles Ross
>streaming Just get FLAC files from Bandcamp
Dylan Morgan
High quality transcode of a 128kbps mp3
Ayden Allen
it's almost like they want me to pirate (which I've been doing anyways since the RIAA lawsuit days)
Thomas Diaz
>Youtube creates an ad blocker blocker Can someone please start working on an ad blocker blocker blocker just to be on the safe side?
Hudson Adams
they need to do something to the terrible sound quality first.
Isaac Powell
How do they "increase ads" if listening to a playlist of music there's a 10-60 second ad every single song that must be skipped?
Some of them are fucking awful, it goes to the next song and plays a 5 fucking minute ad longer than the last 2 songs you listened to.
Who the fuck wouldn't block these ads?
Liam Hernandez
>have adblock plus extension on browser >havent seen a youtube ad since 2013
Gabriel Murphy
>what is ublock origin
Wyatt Robinson
I don't see or hear any ads when listening to music on youtube, and I don't expect to with this change.
Jace Green
wow. what a fucking jew
Levi Robinson
what are ads?
Juan Howard
absolute units
James Hughes
>already paying for Play Music >still would get ads in YT if I didn't have ublock after they promised it would be the same thing
I guess only USA has YT red?
Aiden Carter
Why do I never see ads on Youtube?
Henry Allen
Because adblockers have been a requirement to be able to use the internet for more than a decade.
Jordan Watson
What's an ad?
>Will this be a successful strategy? Will you subscribe? Or will this be the first salvo in a new round of anti anti anti adblock wars, because surely, YouTube knows the first response by the users will be to try and block the ads. Will the technology of freedom be able to do battle with the Tube of You? There are still no anti-anti-anti-adblock wars in Youtube's back end that just serves the video to the website, and the website puts up its defences. Surely, intercepting the video from behind will completely circumvent any blocking attempts? Judging by my screenshot, the strategy works nicely.
Maybe Youtube needs to make an application, something similar to Spotify might work.
Jaxon Cooper
>YouTube Increasing Ads Between Music Videos So More Users Pay for Upcoming Streaming Service
No, it sounds more like a RIAA salvo, desperate for more money, because we fucking block ads and Google's not going to ban us, or VPN users who get stuck on Spotify's region locking. In either case, business as usual.
Henry Taylor
>Lyor Cohen is YouTube's global head of music
When tf did that shit happen??? I'm deleting it.
Eli Brown
What a bold face fucking lie, at least be honest about it.