Ok, I got the groundwork for the ambient flowchart, but I'd like some help completing it. Post an ambient album, and say which album on the chart it should be connected to and how. Provide youtube links if you can. Reply to albums to nominate them if you think it should be on the chart.
Example: >Marsen Jules - Yara Connect from Endless Summer with the prompt, "more uses of plucked instruments".
Be as obscure as you want, I would like the chart to be as extensive as possible.
Ayden Young
Do you guys prefer to listen to ambient through headphones or through speakers? Does it matter to you? I'm trying to get into it and haven't figured out which is better.
Jace Howard
Pinkcourtesyphone - Foley Folly Folio. One of my favorite ambient albums. It can definitely creep some people out, so I'd connect it around roly porter and ambient 4. Afternoon theme is probably one of my favorite ambient pieces.
it's more techno than ambient imho but i haven't listened to it in quite a while
always thought rdj, ctd, drukqs, and analord was aphex twin's best work anyway
Joseph Jackson
i would agree SAW1 isn't really ambient as far as this thread is concerned.
SAW2 has some of the most sublime ambient tracks I've ever heard.
>blue calx >stone in focus >LICHEN >RHUBARB
Brayden Torres
loveliescrushing - Xuvetyn Coming off JCL and Belong with the tag "I like the guitars but less noisey" or "I like the shoegaze element" or something
Also off START HERE you need The Stars Of The Lid and Their Refinement of The Decline with the caption "more of the same" because I argue it is their stronger work. That can connect to William Basinski with the caption "Orchestral elements are nice." It could also link to Elaine Radigue
Dunno where these would be haven't heard any ambient besides them but they're two of the best things I've ever heard in my life, and deserve to be on a Sup Forums essentials chart.
Zachary Johnson
Irrlicht could come off Tangerine Dream with the caption "serious now please" and then continue toward Time Hecker with the same tag "scarier" Duuno where Steve Roach could go.
>Bersarin Quartett - s/t After that you could add Field Rotation - Acoustic Tales with the caption "More electronic influence/industrial ambient." It really is a stunning album, especially if you live in an industrial city like Chicago or Texas City or Queens or Ho Chi Minh or something Needs a warning "Almost not ambient anymore" though youtube.com/watch?v=-OFi2liGXIk
Brayden Smith
Gas's Zauberberg has to be on there, somewhere in the darker corner with "like this but with beats"
I'd put Vladislav Delay's album "Entain" coming off of Fennesz
And I'm going to get shit for it but I would add 2814's 新しい日の誕生 on it, maybe coming off of Grouper but "with more comfy vibes and sampling"
Brody Thomas
Coming off William Basinski you can have this album by Preslev Literary School called La Réflexion Du Tir with the caption "I enjoy the spacious feeling. Like this but droney and not based off loops" it can also connect to 800 000 seconds in Harar because it straddles the border between field recording and ambient music production
Isaac Harris
I'd argue if you're using Windy and carl to use this album We Will Always Be It can come off Grouper with the tag "Less spacey, more homey" youtube.com/watch?v=huBSB3N_yVg
Ian Evans
I think there needs to be another Hecker album, either Ravedeath (my pick) or Harmony In Ultraviolet. He has worked in so many different styles, just having his spookiest one isn't the best representation.
Also the Hecker/Baker collab Fantasma Parastasie with JCL and Belong.
I'd actually replace IAALOBO's Summer In My Veins with his album Innocence, not only is it (IMO) a much better album, it's definitely more ambient and could serve as a connector between techno-influenced ambient and harsh noise.
Zachary Gutierrez
Coming of OPN r + seven could be this album by 2814 - 新しい日の誕生(Birth of a New Day) with the caption "mmm A E S T H E T I C"
Joseph Rogers
forgot image
Nathaniel Scott
Ravedeath could come off Endless Summer with "I need this in an echo chamber"
Jacob Williams
OP Can we get an update?
Nathaniel Thomas
I agree that it should be on there but don't make it look like an ironic choice because it's actually really good
Cameron Martinez
I think people understand now that that method of stylising is an easy way of saying it's vape or at least shares vapourwave elements.
Ethan Lopez
Coming off of Aphex you could have Haxan Cloak - Excavation with the caption "More bass, darker"
Grayson Lee
look dude. that album is one of the best ever. but it aint ambient. i love you just the same but damn man
Nolan Rivera
This
Chase Clark
OP here. This is what I have so far. I'm working hard at skimming the more obscure albums you all give me.
Aiden Brooks
getting there, keep going at it.
Out of Music For Airports you could add Julianna Barwick - The Magic place with the caption "I like 2-1/the more vocal bits"
Juan Thompson
You could include a few dungeon synth albums if you want to span the full ambient spectrum
Ethan Gray
this noisy, shoegazey ambient stuff is amazing. I'd love a list or flowchart or something just for that.
(Windy & Carl, Yellow Swans, Belong)
Thomas Nguyen
(me)
or at least some more recs. anyone got any more?
Samuel Thomas
this
Wyatt Foster
Whirr (formerly Whirl) are great wall of noise shoegaze but very pleasant noise. Get Distressor EP. >more shoegaze than ambient
loveliescrushing is my favourite dronegaze Bloweyelashwish and Xuvetyn are wonderful albums. >dronegaze
Jefre Cantu-Ledesma is another favourite of mine. Love Is A Stream holds a very special place in my heart because of its nature of being an album for any situation. Hidden in the noise are hints of happiness, anger, confusion, warmth, content, hurt etc that you can extract from the music to feel or amplify that emotion. It works in any weather, at any time of day, doing most activities. It's his best release. Pic related >noise/shoegaze youtube.com/watch?v=zthv_-DDlvU
Flying Saucer Attack - s/t is a nice one. Much less in your face and backgroundy shoegaze/drone/ambient >noise/shoegaze
Astrobrite - Pinkshinyultrablast Alot the songs on this album are related to colour. Much harsher than my other recs and shares a lot in common with Jesus and Mary Chain. I found it on Sup Forums is a "music you listen to while on drugs" thread and this guy said he listened to this album while sniffing glue. >noise
Airiel - Winks and Kisses: Melted This guy released for EP's called Melted, Dizzy, Crackled and Frosted. Melted is the best. >straight up shoegaze in lieu of slowdive
Henry Evans
Agreed, dungeon synth is crucial OP. At least put Depressive Silence II on there for a start.
Other essential ambient: Fripp & Eno - No Pussyfooting (first real ambient album) Ashra - New Age of Earth (Happy, Krauty) Robert Rich - Somnium (Sleep Music) Richard Skelton - An Ash Tree Which The Ignorant Call Holy (Album about trees made with homemade instruments)
I'm assuming you don't want to cover dark ambient since that's a whole other world?
Jordan Morgan
Nice idea! Just don't let it become another shoegaze chart.
Maybe take some ideas from previous charts?
Ricky Eat Acid is cool
Liam Brown
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John Cook
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Luke Martin
Dungeon synth
Cameron Anderson
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Charles Watson
The most cohesive REA album is probably "you get sick, you regret things"
Matthew Bell
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Jordan Campbell
Sigur Ros Emeralds Fennesz "Pop" - gas
Charles Russell
>Sigur Ros only Valtari is ambient, it is great however. The rest of their stuff would belong on a post-rock chart and not ambient.
Mason Murphy
OP the fuck you at? This thread is full of great recommendations for the chart with annotations and errythang.
Benjamin White
maybe he's sleeping. keep this thread alive til OP joins the living again
Camden Clark
I've personally gone through the Nil Admirari -> Going Places -> Love is a Stream path, great reccs already OP.
Jordan Sanders
You could make paths to get into ambient from other genres, easy ones would be classical, krautrock, shoegaze and IDM. Also you could make the chart much more lively with a nicer background and title. As it's an ambient chart it could just be a cool gradient but please something other than solid black.
Nathan Anderson
this, as well as some Taylor Deupree release should be on it imo
Colton Gonzalez
DARK AMBIENT
Dark ambient is made in 4 ways A)Soundtrack to a horror movie B)The field recording of a horror movie C)A + B D)Just a wierd song And if you want to be specific: E)A with minimalistic B F)B With minimalistic A
Also artists usually try to fit on those themes
Average dark ambient Themes:All kinds of themes Artist: Lustmord Type: A, D, C and E
Drone Ambient Themes: Mistery, "something is going to happen but I dont know why" Artists: Oophoi Types:A and D Other: Has drone music influences.
Black Ambient Theme: Black metal themes Types: D Other: Has black metal influences
Death Ambient Themes: Monsters, apocalipse Types:B and F Other: Here, the sounds of the stuff happening is in your face.
Deep Ambient Themes: Caves, top of amoutain, lost somewhere Artist:Amon Type: B and D Other Very minimalistic, sometimes windy stuff
Ritual Ambient Types: All Theme:Ritual or meditative stuff Artists: Endvra Other: traditional Folk influences, sometimes new age influences,....
There is also military ambient and neoclassical ambient, but I am not putting them here, because most of the time those names are wrongly used to stuff that is not dark ambient, on the case of military ambient they use it for martial industrial and on the case of neoclassical ambient most of the time they use for neoclassical darkwave.
Some guys split into more stuff, but the other stuff they name its basically the same stuff posted here (most of them would fit in average dark ambient type)
Zachary Scott
MORE EXAMPLES DEEP AMBIENT amon ( the one with the album El khela ) where SleepResearch_Facility
DEATH AMBIENT Habeeb mortar (the one with the album Sepulchres) Crepuscule (the one with the album closing wounds)
RITUAL AMBIENT alio die tuu Obitania (the one with the album Pagan Crystal Sphere) Cocytus ( the one with the album Dtxenioutha) Exotoendo Wejdas
BLACK AMBIENT abyss (the one with the album mental self destruction) Amaka Hahina Dapnom Hunok Foldalatti Alakulat
DRONE AMBIENT Cisfinitum Closing the Eternity Dronæment David Wells (the one with the album Efegin) Nautic Depths Fanum (the one with the album 2008 album fanum) Exit In Grey As Lonely As Dave Bowman Perimeter Kshatriy (the one with the album Slepok Soznaniya) Sans Serif Troum Oöphoi ALBUMS:
DARK AMBIENT Jeff Greinke - Cities In Fog Endvra - Liber Leviathan
RITUAL AMBIENT Mathias Grassow - Awaken the Empire of Dark Wood
DRONE Context - Changed Music 2
Landon Ross
In the noisier stuff you could put some James Ferraro or Spencer Clark or even Dolphins Of The Future
you would put Clear or Rerex when comes to ferraro stuff and The Skaters - Dark Rye Bread
Nathan Smith
I'm interested in it too. My headphones are broken so I have to use speakers right now anyway.
I'm interested in seeing how this would fit in to the chart. I guess somewhere in the bottom-left corner because of how spoopy it is, but give it a listen and see what you think. Maybe give a few ther albums from the project a shot as well.
Basically, it's Buckethead and Bill Laswell doing Dark Ambient/"Experiemntal". In at least one or two later projects, Bill Laswell is replaced by Keyboardist Tracis Dickerson, but Bill came back for the latest album.
James Harris
Same person
"Travis", not "Tracis"
Ian Taylor
I think that this could be a good background t.b.h
Christopher Ortiz
Bump
Jaxson Martinez
Which chart are worth grabbing in the thread? I don't know which is the most up to date
Nathan Price
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Aiden Bailey
I think The Ravedeath is a more acurrate ambient album than Virgins. It is more cryptic and allows more for the imagination due to be less melodically structured. If OP puts this, it would be around the noisy parts, but also more dreamy I guess. Also, would you guys consider Luxury Problems ambient? Or it's more of an IDM album?
Thomas Moore
here I would also suggest about puttinh Brian Eno's Apollo or Harold Budd's Avalon Sutra. The First one is hard to categorize because it's both poppy, and both droney. The latter is a more relaxed piano/sax album. I don't really know how to categorize these both. Kinda hard for me at least.
Ian Cox
OP here, haven't added much since I woke up, but here's the latest version. Finally reached the file size limit so it's half the resolution.
Adrian Cook
Stars of the Lid is a bad place to start and R+7 isn't ambient. Replica is closer to ambient
Elijah Ross
Still nobody posted Aporea for Ritual Ambient.
Jack James
> No Helios - Eingya
Ethan Mitchell
Nice recommendation. Seconding
Luke Myers
Could you make it higher resolution?
Luke Watson
As much as I adore R+7, I kind of agree that it's a tad out of place on this chart.
Matthew Bailey
>no Biosphere >no Gas Those are two of the greatest essentials in ambient music and it's hard to try and argue against that
Jordan Bell
See
Michael Morgan
Drop the "Sup Forums's official" you narcissistic asshat
Jaxon Brooks
Needs some James Leyland Kirby , or The Caretaker recs. Like We Drink to Forget the Coming Storm, Patience, Death of a Rave, and An empty bliss beyond this world
Thomas Lewis
Cool idea. Where OP at?
Ryder Torres
thanks for the recs!
Connor Brooks
Anyone know anything similar to this Infinite Body album? I haven't really been able to find anything quite like it
Lucas Turner
>ambient thread
thank the eternal demiurge, i needed to listen to new stuff.
Nathan Wood
replace that roly porter album with by the throat or some other dark ambient/slightly noisy artist
also replace transform with xerrox 2
Colton Brown
r+7 has no place being there also tim hecker is way too important to be placed in a such a "secondary" offshoot of the chart, and only under "spooky" tag
Andrew Martin
Its a good chart apart from one thing Brian Eno's music for airports should be the starting point
Colton Baker
I agree. I love Stars of the Lid, but Music for Airports is better for someone just starting out. Two hours of drone might be a little overwhelming for a newbie.
Kevin Taylor
After Brian Eno's Ambient 4, a little bit harsher. BTW, nice chart, OP.